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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #75 on: October 02, 2019, 05:10:52 pm »
.....Another ting that annoys me .....
Umbrellas.........I fukin hate umbrellas
What's the problem with umbrellas Octy ?
They scare me
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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #76 on: October 02, 2019, 06:42:26 pm »
Hate Tetrapak cartons, traffic cones, and young fukkers with crutches gettin into me car. That's all for today further list items to follow.
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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #77 on: October 02, 2019, 06:52:14 pm »
Hate Tetrapak cartons, traffic cones, and young fukkers with crutches gettin into me car. That's all for today further list items to follow.
I'm OK with all them, it's just Knackers that I hate !
I'm kinda OK with the rest of the world !!

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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #78 on: October 02, 2019, 09:33:06 pm »
.....Another ting that annoys me .....
Umbrellas.........I fukin hate umbrellas
What's the problem with umbrellas Octy ?
They scare me
Wonder Why ?
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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #79 on: October 03, 2019, 08:42:48 pm »
.....Another ting that annoys me .....
Umbrellas.........I fukin hate umbrellas
What's the problem with umbrellas Octy ?
They scare me
They too have their ups and downs!

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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #80 on: October 04, 2019, 06:52:45 am »
 53. Crowding, rapid change and the breakdown of communities have been widely recognized as sources of social problems. But we do not believe they are enough to account for the extent of the problems that are seen today.

54. A few pre-industrial cities were very large and crowded, yet their inhabitants do not seem to have suffered from psychological problems to the same extent as modern man. In America today there still are uncrowded rural areas, and we find there the same problems as in urban areas, though the problems tend to be less acute in the rural areas. Thus crowding does not seem to be the decisive factor.

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« Reply #81 on: October 04, 2019, 06:53:33 am »
 55. On the growing edge of the American frontier during the 19th century, the mobility of the population probably broke down extended families and small-scale social groups to at least the same extent as these are broken down today. In fact, many nuclear families lived by choice in such isolation, having no neighbors within several miles, that they belonged to no community at all, yet they do not seem to have developed problems as a result.

56. Furthermore, change in American frontier society was very rapid and deep. A man might be born and raised in a log cabin, outside the reach of law and order and fed largely on wild meat; and by the time he arrived at old age he might be working at a regular job and living in an ordered community with effective law enforcement. This was a deeper change than that which typically occurs in the life of a modern individual, yet it does not seem to have led to psychological problems. In fact, 19th century American society had an optimistic and self-confident tone, quite unlike that of today’s society. [8]

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« Reply #82 on: October 04, 2019, 06:58:09 am »
57. The difference, we argue, is that modern man has the sense (largely justified) that change is IMPOSED on him, whereas the 19th century frontiersman had the sense (also largely justified) that he created change himself, by his own choice. Thus a pioneer settled on a piece of land of his own choosing and made it into a farm through his own effort. In those days an entire county might have only a couple of hundred inhabitants and was a far more isolated and autonomous entity than a modern county is. Hence the pioneer farmer participated as a member of a relatively small group in the creation of a new, ordered community. One may well question whether the creation of this community was an improvement, but at any rate it satisfied the pioneer’s need for the power process.

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« Reply #83 on: October 07, 2019, 02:29:54 pm »
58. It would be possible to give other examples of societies in which there has been rapid change and/or lack of close community ties without the kind of massive behavioral aberration that is seen in today’s industrial society. We contend that the most important cause of social and psychological problems in modern society is the fact that people have insufficient opportunity to go through the power process in a normal way. We don’t mean to say that modern society is the only one in which the power process has been disrupted. Probably most if not all civilized societies have interfered with the power process to a greater or lesser extent. But in modern industrial society the problem has become particularly acute. Leftism, at least in its recent (mid- to late-20th century) form, is in part a symptom of deprivation with respect to the power process.

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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #84 on: October 07, 2019, 02:51:30 pm »
  ..Save you reading it .

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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #85 on: October 07, 2019, 04:35:18 pm »
Why is Ken posting this again?

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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #86 on: October 08, 2019, 07:37:56 am »
Job interview skills. The "tell me about yourself" bit was where poor aul Ted went down.

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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #87 on: October 09, 2019, 04:28:55 am »
 DISRUPTION OF THE POWER PROCESS IN MODERN SOCIETY

59. We divide human drives into three groups: (1) those drives that can be satisfied with minimal effort; (2) those that can be satisfied but only at the cost of serious effort; (3) those that cannot be adequately satisfied no matter how much effort one makes. The power process is the process of satisfying the drives of the second group. The more drives there are in the third group, the more there is frustration, anger, eventually defeatism, depression, etc.

60. In modern industrial society natural human drives tend to be pushed into the first and third groups, and the second group tends to consist increasingly of artificially created drives.

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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #88 on: October 09, 2019, 04:29:36 am »
61. In primitive societies, physical necessities generally fall into group 2: They can be obtained, but only at the cost of serious effort. But modern society tends to guaranty the physical necessities to everyone [9] in exchange for only minimal effort, hence physical needs are pushed into group 1. (There may be disagreement about whether the effort needed to hold a job is “minimal”; but usually, in lower- to middle- level jobs, whatever effort is required is merely that of OBEDIENCE. You sit or stand where you are told to sit or stand and do what you are told to do in the way you are told to do it. Seldom do you have to exert yourself seriously, and in any case you have hardly any autonomy in work, so that the need for the power process is not well served.)

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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #89 on: October 09, 2019, 06:39:13 am »
A question fer anybody that watched the Manhunt Unabomber series on Netflix.

Why did Natalie Rogers (Fitz's assistant) ring David Kaczynski (Episode 4 @ 40.30) ?

They did not seem to have any relationship or be relatives but David answered the phone to her saying; "Hey Sweet-heart" ??

 


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