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Offline markmiwurdz

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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2020, 05:45:00 pm »
I know yis are all maths geniuses but this is important to understand the size of the increase.Even though RC posted it the details may have been forgotten or just overlooked.Bearing in mind the exact same thing was done after the last fare increase.

Using the example of 20k app work as year a low figure. Multiply by two or three where necessary for the hard workers..or four for VD.

20000 @ 12% commission is 2400
20000 after 4% rise is 20800
20800 after 15% commission 3180

A 780 increase over 2400 is a 32.5% increase.

The 3% rise doesn't show the full effect of the fare increase.Feel free to correct my schoolboy maths.So yes it is that bad.

Jaysus, so of the €800 turnover increase, FN get €780, we get €20 !!!! Something has to be done about this.

Turn off the ap from Monday onwards.That's the only weapon at your disposal.

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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2020, 05:50:39 pm »
I know yis are all maths geniuses but this is important to understand the size of the increase.Even though RC posted it the details may have been forgotten or just overlooked.Bearing in mind the exact same thing was done after the last fare increase.

Using the example of 20k app work as year a low figure. Multiply by two or three where necessary for the hard workers..or four for VD.

20000 @ 12% commission is 2400
20000 after 4% rise is 20800
20800 after 15% commission 3180

A 780 increase over 2400 is a 32.5% increase.

The 3% rise doesn't show the full effect of the fare increase.Feel free to correct my schoolboy maths.So yes it is that bad.

Jaysus, so of the €800 turnover increase, FN get €780, we get €20 !!!! Something has to be done about this.

Turn off the ap from Monday onwards.That's the only weapon at your disposal.

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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2020, 05:57:21 pm »
There's no appetite for any form of action as far as I can ascertain, BS. I guess the increased expense will be taken into account during the 2022 fare review process as part of the taxi cost index.
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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2020, 05:59:48 pm »
We all at least owe it to ourselves to try work without it,you know what----if enough of us do it punters will have no choice but to come back out on the strasse and you're back getting 100% of the job.

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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2020, 06:00:38 pm »
There's no appetite for any form of action as far as I can ascertain, BS. I guess the increased expense will be taken into account during the 2022 fare review process as part of the taxi cost index.

Taxi fares are dear enough for the lone traveller, I don't see why the travelling public/Joe Soap/you and I, should have to pay for these gougers.
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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2020, 06:04:56 pm »
Won't happen, MMW. The FN ambassadors will be working overtime to get on the 10% rate.

They won't have to, BS. eHailing is a premium service which they can choose to use or not. It's becoming a very expensive way of dispatching work hence it ought to become a very expensive way of requesting a taxi. If diesel went up by 25-306% it'd be taken into account in a similar manner.
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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2020, 06:14:49 pm »
I average 60 jobs a week, but will quite happily reduce it to 36 seeing as there's no difference really between silver/gold status.
The App is busy when the streets are busy.
Street equals 100% of the fare.

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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2020, 06:24:13 pm »
Won't happen, MMW. The FN ambassadors will be working overtime to get on the 10% rate.

They won't have to, BS. eHailing is a premium service which they can choose to use or not. It's becoming a very expensive way of dispatching work hence it ought to become a very expensive way of requesting a taxi. If diesel went up by 25-306% it'd be taken into account in a similar manner.

I am honestly going to try working for the week without it,I'm prepared to go out a bit earlier and stay out a bit later and look at the scores on the doors at the end of the week (this week shite so shouldn't be hard to beat) and take it from there,hopefully some punters will be flushed back out onto the kerbside.

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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2020, 06:46:21 pm »
On pub jobs, a la Beaumont House, particularly with a bed logo, simply enter an Unable to contact passenger when you see the punter emerging.
An idea overheard recently.

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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2020, 06:57:49 pm »
FN have unfettered access to your phone (it seems to me).  If they wanted to check, they'd (a) see you parked outside the pub and (b) see you didn't call the passenger.  Esp now all calls go through their number.  I suppose if you did it often enough, they could suspend/ban you off the app?
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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2020, 07:30:23 pm »
FN have unfettered access to your phone (it seems to me).  If they wanted to check, they'd (a) see you parked outside the pub and (b) see you didn't call the passenger.  Esp now all calls go through their number.  I suppose if you did it often enough, they could suspend/ban you off the app?
I wouldn't consider it, although that doesn't bother some.

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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2020, 08:44:22 am »
I know yis are all maths geniuses but this is important to understand the size of the increase.Even though RC posted it the details may have been forgotten or just overlooked.Bearing in mind the exact same thing was done after the last fare increase.

Using the example of 20k app work as year a low figure. Multiply by two or three where necessary for the hard workers..or four for VD.

20000 @ 12% commission is 2400
20000 after 4% rise is 20800
20800 after 15% commission 3180

A 780 increase over 2400 is a 32.5% increase.

The 3% rise doesn't show the full effect of the fare increase.Feel free to correct my schoolboy maths.So yes it is that bad.

Jaysus, so of the €800 turnover increase, FN get €780, we get €20 !!!! Something has to be done about this.
Sorry that split should be €720 FN €80 us.
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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2020, 09:52:55 am »
Still pretty serious numbers all the same.Sad part is most of the fleet will never sit down and do the sums...all they think is another 3% means very little.

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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2020, 10:22:48 am »
Also considering the time off work and fees to recalibrate and reseal the meter it will take two years before the driver(20k example) realises any tiny gains from the fare increase.

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Re: Is it really that bad?
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2020, 11:05:56 am »
Leaving the App on after one reaches their target can assist drivers looking for live street work.
A la the 3 Arena, Grand Canal theatre etc.
Saving drivers 15% commission per job.

 


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