Will Dirty Dwyer get off

[john m]

A decision which will have significant implications for notorious killer Graham Dwyer's bid to overturn his murder conviction and criminal investigations generally will be delivered today by the Supreme Court.

Seven judges have been considering an appeal by the State against a December 2018 High Court ruling that legislation used by gardaí to access Dwyer's communications data contravened EU law and an international human rights convention.



If I remember and there is a thread here somewhere I always thought the evidence was weak and he would get off even though he probably did it .If the Judge rules against the Phone he walks and so do others ?

[john m]

Supreme Court Judgement going to be Live on TV tells you how important this issue is .If they rule the gards broke the law then other cases where phone evidence was used illegally could mean new trials or acquittals .Our Minister for Justice Charlie Black and Tan Flanagan  .You know him the one that just disappeared from View  will have to come out of hiding to say something or say nothing after the Judges are finished .

[The Liffey Lip]

He won't walk. If the defendant was female and the victim male, then yes- she would walk. Judges always conform to the zeitgeist here in Banana land.

[john m]

Dont know Lip its the Principle that is being adjudicated  not the case  Supreme Court is ruling on a point of law not the point of a blade .

[stonethecrows]

I told my wife she should embrace her mistakes ......


SHE HUGGED ME .

[john m]

Im watching this live on telly the Judges had to leave the Court because somebody forgot to put out the Chairs for them to sit .

[dalymount]

Surely joe will walk also ?

[dalymount]

I just watched the conclusion of the ruling,I haven't a fukkin clue what it all means because of the legal jargon.will someone please enlighten me ?

[john m]

From my understanding of the Judgement just given .The Court say the Judge who said it was illegal said so after the Case and the Supreme Court say that he might be right but might not be and if he is right then it only applies to cases After he made the Judgement not before it .They are sending their Judgement to Brussells for clarification .One Judge dissagreed and said Ireland has certain rights to opt out and its none of the ECJs business .

[dalymount]

So does all this mean that him,and the scumbag o reilly are likely to walk ?

[john m]

So does all this mean that him,and the scumbag o reilly are likely to walk ?

No from my reading of it .The Supreme court are not sure and are sending the Question to the ECJ but the Irish Supreme Court says the appeals court judgement might only apply to issues after it was made and not before it sort on not retrospectively applicable .It will depend on how the ECJ rules and that might take years .

[dalymount]

So rhey could end up still serving the full sentence by default ?

[john m]

So rhey could end up still serving the full sentence by default ?

Life only means until a judge releases you so instead of allowing a challenge to go to court and succeed there might be some fetteling and tweeking .Most murderers get out in the end .

[Rat Catcher]

Joe must be close to being released now anyway... but I guess he could qualify for compo... but then that'd bring all the lefty pinko liberals out to further erode our culture.

[john m]

Sure yer man that caved in his wifes head with a brick out in Howth is already out and living with his hairdressing girlfriend .