our new green government

[Theoneandonly]

It will be Close Dalymount very close But the Country needs a Government and to Exclude the Shinners because of their Revolutionary Violence by two Parties who were born out of the Exact same Revolutionary violence in Fact both Fine Fail and Fine Gael are the Bastard children of Sinn Fein both Grew out of Splits within the Original Sinn Fein Party of 1919 .FF are Dieing  this is their Swansong .Covid Brexit ,new Digital tax law will mean next election they might not even get enough elected members to get Speaking rights in the Dail just like the dying embers of the Labour Party .After this Parliament the Next one will be a split along most Parliamentary lines, of Left led by SF and Right (conservative ) led by FG .I wonder what price Gerry Adams is to be the next President he must now be the Favourite to follow in the footsteps of Sean T ,Childers Douglas Hyde and the Chief of Staff Dev .

The current Sin Fein Party founded in 1970 as the Marxist political wing of a terrorist organisation should not be associated with the original Sin Fein which is better represented by FF and FG.
The violence you mention is far more recent and dwells not too far under the surface of many current Sin Fein party members, I've no problem with parties not wanting to deal with them.

[john m]

Or did the Original Sinn Fein not just evolve Politically to suit todays Political requirements where as the FG/FF wings just went for political power years ago and aped what they saw in Great Britain .With the exception of Neutrality we almost copied British Domestic Policies word for word .Bertie the Socialist copier Thatcher the Conservatives Right to Buy your council house .One of the Great Mysteries in Irish Politics is why the Labour party never became a force .I often think it was because in General we dont do Class Politics .The Profit from the People and the Shinners saw that gap in the market .They played the 1% against the rest even though most of the Top men and women on the Left had privliged upbringings .I met Brendan Corish in the 1970s and was talking to him and he tild me at the time he became leader of Labour he was the only elected TD with a leaving cert the rest of the Party were workers but then like now the inteligencia like Dr Noel Brown Connor Cruise O Brien saw a way in to the Dail on the tails of working stiffs .I take your Point about more recent violence but does any voter under 40 remember watching Police Messages on UTV in the middle of Cornation Street do thy care .There is a political window of about 40 years in everybodies life Before your twenty your to young or not interested in voting after 60 you learned your vote dosent count .Todays voters are voting for today not for the past and probably not even for the future .I just think  the Greens will be wiped so will FF .This Dail is the Death that leads to the Birth of new Politics in Ireland .

[taxi1990]

It will be Close Dalymount very close But the Country needs a Government and to Exclude the Shinners because of their Revolutionary Violence by two Parties who were born out of the Exact same Revolutionary violence in Fact both Fine Fail and Fine Gael are the Bastard children of Sinn Fein both Grew out of Splits within the Original Sinn Fein Party of 1919 .FF are Dieing  this is their Swansong .Covid Brexit ,new Digital tax law will mean next election they might not even get enough elected members to get Speaking rights in the Dail just like the dying embers of the Labour Party .After this Parliament the Next one will be a split along most Parliamentary lines, of Left led by SF and Right (conservative ) led by FG .I wonder what price Gerry Adams is to be the next President he must now be the Favourite to follow in the footsteps of Sean T ,Childers Douglas Hyde and the Chief of Staff Dev .

The current Sin Fein Party founded in 1970 as the Marxist political wing of a terrorist organisation should not be associated with the original Sin Fein which is better represented by FF and FG.
The violence you mention is far more recent and dwells not too far under the surface of many current Sin Fein party members, I've no problem with parties not wanting to deal with them.

+1. id rather the greens with 100% power, us all on penny farthings than have that shower of low life criminals anywhere near government.

The thing that gets me about the shinners is mary lou isnt even a real sinn feiner, she could just have easily joined any other party, she is middle class, went to Trinity, then you see her with her fist in the air and coming out with republican slogans etc its embarrassing stuff.

Going for the easy protest votes then, sure people are never happy with the government in power.

[Shallowhal]

The thing that gets me about the shinners is mary lou isnt even a real sinn feiner, she could just have easily joined any other party,

She was a FF before she joined SF.

[taxi1990]

The thing that gets me about the shinners is mary lou isnt even a real sinn feiner, she could just have easily joined any other party,

She was a FF before she joined SF.

I thought that alright. I hope that party never get to run the country. The normal people who left other parties to vote for them in the last election should be ashamed of themselves.

[john m]

FF should of offered the Shinners a Coalition keep them in check now next Election Mary Lou starts favourite to be Taoiseach in fact she will be a smaller price to be Taoiseach that Mick Martin will be to get re elected .We are heading for Cuba without the Sunshine .SF must be delighted with the Greens even though the Greens won most of their seats on the Dregs of SF transfers they have used those seats to elevate SF into power next time .IF and its an IF this government lasts till next October2021 I will be amazed .I have posted on here for years BREXIT will kill us as a country .The Brits still blame us for the Loss of their Empire not going to do us any favours EU Know we are tax robbing low life scum also not going to do us any Favours .Maybe a SF government will bring a new morality to Irish Governments that has been lacking under the last lot .As I say Im not a Shinner but I dont like the way they were just excluded from any democratic debate on the formation of a government I think that was a mistake or possibly Dictatorship by the Incumbents .

[dalymount]

Im thinking at this stage big Dommo ,and his crew would make a better job of running the kip.can you inagine tommy two scares minister for gun running ,bridget moloney from the flats minister for prostitution,the erm ,.......well pick your own portfolio for that

[Shallowhal]

the erm ,.......well pick your own portfolio for that

Bolloxology....there could be a couple of ministerial pay and pensions for him in that role!!

[Rat Catcher]

A member who was active on here some time ago ,and whos father was diagnosed with the virus ,his father unfortunately died a couple of months back from it.he PMd me,but for some reason my messages dont appear to be sending .that was weeks  ago

Sorry to hear that. I recall him posting that his father was in hospital and you enquiring some time after if anyone had heard from him since. Please pass on my sincere condolences should the opportunity arise.

There's nothing suppressing your PMs... although I think there is a facility for members to ignore (or automatically reject) messages from any other members.

[dalymount]

Well I certainly pass on your condolences if at all possible rat,but I have sent a few PMs to the erm,and one or two others .they were all nice PMs,and I would have thought I would have received a reply on at least 3 of them.this is why I was wondering did they send at all.also I checked my sent box,and there is nothing in it

[Rat Catcher]

Make sure the "Save a copy in my outbox" checkbox is ticked. I think it's unchecked by default but once you check it for one message it should stay checked.

[dalymount]

Ok thanks will do

[silverbullet]

Or did the Original Sinn Fein not just evolve Politically to suit todays Political requirements where as the FG/FF wings just went for political power years ago and aped what they saw in Great Britain .With the exception of Neutrality we almost copied British Domestic Policies word for word .Bertie the Socialist copier Thatcher the Conservatives Right to Buy your council house .One of the Great Mysteries in Irish Politics is why the Labour party never became a force .I often think it was because in General we dont do Class Politics .The Profit from the People and the Shinners saw that gap in the market .They played the 1% against the rest even though most of the Top men and women on the Left had privliged upbringings .I met Brendan Corish in the 1970s and was talking to him and he tild me at the time he became leader of Labour he was the only elected TD with a leaving cert the rest of the Party were workers but then like now the inteligencia like Dr Noel Brown Connor Cruise O Brien saw a way in to the Dail on the tails of working stiffs .I take your Point about more recent violence but does any voter under 40 remember watching Police Messages on UTV in the middle of Cornation Street do thy care .There is a political window of about 40 years in everybodies life Before your twenty your to young or not interested in voting after 60 you learned your vote dosent count .Todays voters are voting for today not for the past and probably not even for the future .I just think  the Greens will be wiped so will FF .This Dail is the Death that leads to the Birth of new Politics in Ireland .

That post looks like newly opened box of Scrabble.

[silverbullet]

A member who was active on here some time ago ,and whos father was diagnosed with the virus ,his father unfortunately died a couple of months back from it.he PMd me,but for some reason my messages dont appear to be sending .that was weeks  ago

Sorry to hear that. I recall him posting that his father was in hospital and you enquiring some time after if anyone had heard from him since. Please pass on my sincere condolences should the opportunity arise.

There's nothing suppressing your PMs... although I think there is a facility for members to ignore (or automatically reject) messages from any other members.

Please pass on our condolences.

R.I.P.

[john m]

Or did the Original Sinn Fein not just evolve Politically to suit todays Political requirements where as the FG/FF wings just went for political power years ago and aped what they saw in Great Britain .With the exception of Neutrality we almost copied British Domestic Policies word for word .Bertie the Socialist copier Thatcher the Conservatives Right to Buy your council house .One of the Great Mysteries in Irish Politics is why the Labour party never became a force .I often think it was because in General we dont do Class Politics .The Profit from the People and the Shinners saw that gap in the market .They played the 1% against the rest even though most of the Top men and women on the Left had privliged upbringings .I met Brendan Corish in the 1970s and was talking to him and he tild me at the time he became leader of Labour he was the only elected TD with a leaving cert the rest of the Party were workers but then like now the inteligencia like Dr Noel Brown Connor Cruise O Brien saw a way in to the Dail on the tails of working stiffs .I take your Point about more recent violence but does any voter under 40 remember watching Police Messages on UTV in the middle of Cornation Street do thy care .There is a political window of about 40 years in everybodies life Before your twenty your to young or not interested in voting after 60 you learned your vote dosent count .Todays voters are voting for today not for the past and probably not even for the future .I just think  the Greens will be wiped so will FF .This Dail is the Death that leads to the Birth of new Politics in Ireland .

That post looks like newly opened box of Scrabble.

I had me Scrabble Set out two weeks ago .Im drinking Polish Vodka and Playing records in Nula Brophys house beside the Flats and Big Dommo says .Here its 11.oc you have until midnight tonight to write a story and enter this 600 words about the Waterside .He says If you can win a Prize Ill tell you the story of what really happened the Night I went to the Pictures with Olive O leary and got me Mickey caught in me Button hole of me Levi 501 .Now I never knew anybody that caught their foreskin in the buttonhole of a pair of Jeans so I took up the Challenge .

Hi John,

 

Thank you for submitting your entry to ‘Stories from the Waterside’.  Your story is now registered for the competition and we will be in contact again in due course.

 

Regards,

Irene

 

 

 

Irene Cunningham

Local Authority Water Programme

Tipperary County Council, The Lodge, Ballingarrane Estate, Clonmel, Co Tipperary, E91 X370