@horse all cars are reliable nowadays, there's a niggle here or a niggle with all of them sure I drive Citroëns I've had 3 and have covered around or coming close to 1.6 million miles between the 3 of them and I still have 2 of them the last one has 642,000 miles and the present on has 250,000 miles, the first one had 700,000 miles a Citroen xantia, I've never had a breakdown, my wife drives a Citroën C4 grand Picasso with 310,000 kms no breakdowns, all just regular servicing and wear and tare items. The reason I drive them is because I know they are reliable nowadays and they are extremely comfortable. And the people who bash one car over the other is because they don't know what they are talking about. Skoda were the butt of jokes. If ya told those joke today you would be laughed at.