I told you get somebody elected

[john m]

Independent TDs have been offered deals similar to that given to former Kerry Independent Jackie Healy-Rae to support a coalition between Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and the Green Party.

The offer was made at a meeting between Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin, Taoiseach and Fine Gael leader Leo Varadkar and Green Party leader Eamon Ryan and Independents.

The meeting was attended by TDs Marian Harkin, Michael Fitzmaurice and Michael McNamara. A separate meeting with the nine-strong Regional Group of Independents is due to take place on Thursday.

Mr Varadkar said the deals would be similar to those offered to Mr Healy Rae and Mildred Fox, a former Wicklow Independent, by Bertie Ahern in the past.

Such an arrangement would involve local deals for individual TDs as well as access to government ministers. The Taoiseach is understood to have said the Fine Gael-Independent minority government operated similar deals.

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The Independents were told they would be given a programme for government when it was agreed, and they were left with the impression that they would be supporting an administration from outside. It is understood that no ministerial posts or committee chairs were offered.

Crucial juncture
The offer from the three party leaders comes at a crucial juncture in the negotiations on a programme for government. One source said that the “mood has soured in the last week”, while another source, from another party, acknowledged that “a bit of gloom has descended over the whole thing”. However, sessions on finance and transport were said to be more positive on Wednesday.

Sources still say a deal is possible, but achieving the Greens’ demands of a 7 per cent annual reduction in greenhouse gas emissions is still a significant problem in the talks.

Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil have particular problems with proposed reductions in the agriculture sector, where some Green proposals are “undeliverable”, sources in both parties say.

     

The Greens have made clear that the 7 per cent reduction is a red line for the party, and they must have credible paths to achieve it if they are to sign up for a deal.

One of the other issues is a demand that 20 per cent of transport infrastructure budgets be spent on walking and cycling. This would be in addition to a Green demand that all transport spending be split on a 2:1 basis in favour of public transport over roads.

However, there is optimism that differences on the public finances can be resolved, despite differing views within the parties.

One senior figure in Fianna Fáil warned that the country would face a “full-blown political crisis” if there was no agreement on a programme for government next week, while a senior Fine Gael source acknowledged there is a belief in the party that it could benefit from another general election.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/independents-offered-healy-rae-style-deal-to-support-coalition-1.4270149

[john m]

And there you have it Government offering Sweetheart deals to ANY and ALL TD who will support them .Once again I will be proved right we should of made this a political issue at least I tried but others decided invading the taxi thingey office and blocking streets was the way to go .

[Octavia1]

Time to get a gun ....an a new job

[john m]

Time to get a gun ....an a new job

Im looking for work .

[Shallowhal]

Time to get a gun ....an a new job

Im looking for work .

You could have one delivering parcels in the morning John.

[Jack Meoff]

If there was work in the bed
And covid payment on the floor
Where would one sleep ?

[Shallowhal]

If there was work in the bed
And covid payment on the floor
Where would one sleep ?

They'd be sleeping comfortably wherever they lay their hat.

[Taxi driver42]

And there you have it Government offering Sweetheart deals to ANY and ALL TD who will support them .Once again I will be proved right we should of made this a political issue at least I tried but others decided invading the taxi thingey office and blocking streets was the way to go .

See john who gives a fuck about taxi drivers except us
And there no area in Dublin saturated with enough drivers to get us elected
Nobody cares theres too many other issues more important

Paul Donnelly sf he was a taxi driver but would never got elected standing for us
Too many other social issues out there

Most of the public hate us anyway

[john m]

And there you have it Government offering Sweetheart deals to ANY and ALL TD who will support them .Once again I will be proved right we should of made this a political issue at least I tried but others decided invading the taxi thingey office and blocking streets was the way to go .

See john who gives a fuck about taxi drivers except us
And there no area in Dublin saturated with enough drivers to get us elected
Nobody cares theres too many other issues more important

Paul Donnelly sf he was a taxi driver but would never got elected standing for us
Too many other social issues out there

Most of the public hate us anyway

I went to the Transport club with a proposal it was simple .The Dail Constituency of Dublin South Central had 3 local authority areas Drimnagh /Ballyfermot .2 Crumlin Kimmage 3 Dublin South City .The year I suggested we run ,5 independents were elected in those 3 wards .The Present make up of the Dail TD are Two Independents ,one shinner and a Green .There was at least one Council seat if not two available if we got them then the Big Parties would of sat up and took notice ..

We could of looked at areas like Coolock Ballymun Finglas plenty of Taxi drivers and their families in those areas 1600 votes would of gotten you the last council seats in any of those Wards .

Do you think the Gay rights people just gave up because they thought they could not influence political decision makers ?As I said to many old scores to be settled in this game same faces turn up all the time .

[watty]

The Greens have the momentum at the moment.  No way a taxi-supporting politician would get traction.  The AA represents the ordinary 'working joe' and nobody (apart from Newstalk) pays any attention to them.

Most of the pols on DCC are publicly supportive of bike lanes & all that shite at the moment because they see the way the public is leaning.  Nasty bug keeping them at home.  Fresh air and cycling is the way to go!

[john m]

So Margret Nugent from the Flats is going to the Offlicence and Donal the Spanner is heading back from the chipper to the flats at some stage they are going to pass each other the Footpath is just wide enough   to observe the distancing but at the point they meet there is a cyclist passing as well does he have to be two meters away from the nearest pedestrian .?

[Dr. Martin Gooter Bling]

it's all a loada bollocks.

[Shallowhal]

Probably best to keep a 2km distance from Donal and Margret....being from the flats anall!!

[watty]

The cyclist probably should have crossed over to the other side of the road.  If it's the Margret Nugent I'm thinking of, she'd probably swing her bag of cans and knock the cyclist out.  Donal would steal the bike and as they walked down the street, he'd say to Mary that the cyclist should have keep 2 metres away from her.

Later on when the cyclist woke up, he'd think to himself, 'why can't I socially distance myself from these people?'

[john m]

So if im driving in town with my window open for ventilation does the cyclist have to give me 2 meters clearance in my workplace ?