Screen ology and Screenerism

[john m]

....... You say "I could potentially see people hitting themselves (or their kids) against it getting in and having a claim. " So you and the manufacturers and installers and promotors are aware that there is a dangerous design flaw yet you consider using one of these screens ? Big Dommos sisters will all have claims in before Tuesday Fortnight .Has anybody actually done a Suitability with one of these fitted and passed ?

NTA guidelines at the moment are that if you have a letter/email from your insurance company to say the screen is safe or whatever, then it will pass suitability.

Suitability is not the Issue .The OP said he is aware that they are dangerous to passengers .When you say safe or WHATEVER explain to the Judge WHATEVER ?You ran a business you know if their was a piece of loose carpet or WHATEVER in your shop and you were aware of it and did nothing your insurance would trigger the WHATEVER clause .In two weeks time there wont be a screen in a taxi or there wont be a taxi .Its either safe to travel or its not .

[john m]

......Firstly the apps and dispatchers will soon be offering Screened cabs and if you turn up without a screen then Dolly Daydream will report you.
REPORT YOU TO WHO .

Report you to the app provider or dispatch company that they ordered a Screened Taxi from.

To explain further, say an app company offers drivers discounted screens, some drivers take the discounted screen offer and then the app company offers its customers a Screened Taxi service, Dolly Daydream orders her screened Taxi and Joe Bloggs shows up without a screen, because he didn't like it fer whatever reason and took it off. Dolly gets in a huff and reports Joe to the app company, who have supplied Joe with a discounted screen and offers his services as a Screened cab.
What do you think the app company are going to say to Joe ?

Mice or Men .They just bought your car for 25 euro .

[john m]

Here is another Question for the Taxbarristers .If you fit a screen post Suitability do you need to inform the Taxithingey .If its possible to fail the test based on a screen is it possible to void a suitability by post fitting a screen ,and what are the consequences of driving a taxi with a void suitability .Ken said if an inspector calls and you dont have a letter from your insurence .THEN WHAT .

[Belker]

Good issues raised John M, hopefully myself and Ratcatcher after having our screens installed next Tuesday will have some answers fer you.

[Belker]

Here is another Question for the Taxbarristers .If you fit a screen post Suitability do you need to inform the Taxithingey .If its possible to fail the test based on a screen is it possible to void a suitability by post fitting a screen ,and what are the consequences of driving a taxi with a void suitability .Ken said if an inspector calls and you dont have a letter from your insurence .THEN WHAT .

The question I was asked when booking my suitability yesterday was; "Has your car been modified since your last suitability test ?". And I replied honestly; "No".

[john m]

I would think the insurers will have a think about this and reside like your tail lift in a WAV you will need an Engineers report and that will cost coin .I know a pub who looked to fit screens and The insurance guidelines about access to fire exits and toilets and believe it or not the biggest issue and I havent heard anybody in the industry say anything is clearence for staff carrying hot meals they must be able to observe a clear distance and be able to avoid customers while carrying hot plates .If there were screens around tables like they can stand in out of the way now to avoid impact plastic screens might obstruct their movement .When bars and restaurants say it would be impossible to operate with the 2 meter distancing this is one of the issues .I wonder if Ludmilla spilt hot soup over Sharons good frock how long it would take for the insurance company to be out with the Theodolite to measure the available clearance so they could welsh on the insurance .Would it not of been easier for Free Now to offer a sample of cars to the Insurers for pre approval before they sold the plastic .Good men are now faced with a dilemma fit the advertising or dont fit the advertising screen .

[john m]

Here is another Question for the Taxbarristers .If you fit a screen post Suitability do you need to inform the Taxithingey .If its possible to fail the test based on a screen is it possible to void a suitability by post fitting a screen ,and what are the consequences of driving a taxi with a void suitability .Ken said if an inspector calls and you dont have a letter from your insurence .THEN WHAT .

The question I was asked when booking my suitability yesterday was; "Has your car been modified since your last suitability test ?". And I replied honestly; "No".

So the requirement pre test is you advise them if you modify whats the process post test ?I know if you modify the car and fit a taxi meter they have a certified test for that they even put a little sticker on the meter Will they have a sticker for the screen .Lets say you tell them you have a screen and then they say apply for a Screen test and bring your insurance with you cost of test 200 euro .Just because the insurance say its Ok the taxithingey also have a Corporate responsibility to both passengers and drivers to make sure screens are of a standard .Then there is the unanswered question if the insurance say its ok to fit a screen will there be a premium for the alteration ?Lot of unanswered questions .

[john m]

If you do the Suitability with a screen then the Insurance want 300 extra on your premium then you say no thank you Ill remove the screen do you need to inform the taxithingey and do another suitability as you modifird the vehicle ?

[watty]

Given the speed with which NTA react to things, we'll find out the answers in a month or two.

[john m]

Lads are really forgetting ,THESE ARE ADVERTISING SCREENS FOR DISPATCH COMPANIES first and foremost .The NTA have issued guidance saying they have no proven effect on the spread of the virus .In reality they could be detrimental to both your health and that of your passengers by restricting ventilation .

[dalymount]

Its hard to believe,but some drivers seem to be absolutely DETERMINED to bring problems upon themselves by fitting something that was not asked for, or made compulsory by the NTA.Unfortunately they might have brought the rest of us unwilling participants down the same road, in a bid to excede to the wishes of their lords,and masters namely F,N ,and Ebbs.my own belief is however,these unnecessary screens will NOT feature for very long,and will be discontinued when the few drivers who have fitted them,realize there is neither demand,nor desire for them,and the drivers will count the costs of their loyalty to the people in the ivory towers working from home who instructed there instillation in the first place

[Shallowhal]

If you do the Suitability with a screen then the Insurance want 300 extra on your premium then you say no thank you Ill remove the screen do you need to inform the taxithingey and do another suitability as you modifird the vehicle ?

If you remove a screen (that as of yet has to be deemed a modification) then you're returning it to original manufacture.

[john m]

DAlymount .After a few weeks with drivers explaining the Doctor says out door events are safer than indoor events thats why I didnt fit a screen its more important you have fresh air rather than be pushed into a bubble after the last passenger has left .If that window is open to much for you I can close it a little .Then usual banter I see Bohs are going Amature or who is better Boyzone or the Beatles and the public opinion of screens will change .Pubs and Restaurants will have them out quicker than they went in as soon as the crowds are back .

[john m]

If you do the Suitability with a screen then the Insurance want 300 extra on your premium then you say no thank you Ill remove the screen do you need to inform the taxithingey and do another suitability as you modifird the vehicle ?

If you remove a screen (that as of yet has to be deemed a modification) then you're returning it to original manufacture.

Really .Your as bad as me making this up as you go .OK I suppose we are just doing what the taxithinget does .The answer is nobody knows .Did you ever see the film War Games .If you cant win dont play .Wait till the Insurance or Taxithingey issue proper guidelines .

[Octavia1]

Why put a screen in wen a face mask does the same job?