Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport

[Theoneandonly]

The Corona virus isn't gone and won't go away, it's something as a society we have to learn to live with, a lot has been learned in this regard an countries are starting to return to some semblance of normality, believe me if certain aspects of society (essential services) had not been kept open and those working in them had not risked their lives (many lost) you'd have been on here crying over no cornflakes.

It's now time for the rest of us to restart our society and do what ever we can individually to do so without spreading the virus.

Of course properly worn masks help
Of course physical barriers help
Of course side by side, back to back front to back contacts are better than face to face
Of course hand washing and sanitising works

It's time to get off your arse and return society to normality using common sense

Maybe and quite probably the virus will spike again, but we cannot continue to sponge off the state indefinitely

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GREAT.....you have a history of not paying much attention to any posts pre yours....I dont debate with walls....or closed minds.. but accept we all have the right to controlled opinion ...so I will skip this one ...in case I might waste time for me.... ,

If there was less drivel , a few more commas and maybe a paragraph or two, i'd be more inclined to read through.
But you're right, I skip most  of the threads, doesn't everybody?
Like, who has the fucking time?

[Theoneandonly]

Just heard a Floridian woman say she doesn't wear a mask for the same reason she doesn't wear underwear, things gotta breathe!
Best argument against masks I've heard so far!

[john m]

Did anybody watch the Posse of Power heading into Dublin Castle to get their seals of office the Posh busses pulled up and the Power People all filed off the bus in a nice civil order .Ah FUCH I said to Big Dommos sister who called over with some Fairy cakes she just baked I was going to say Ah FUCK but she dosent like cursing .Whats wrong she asked LOOK I said The Possie of Power the men and women that are going to save us are getting off a Bus and only Dr Leo Veradkar TD was wearing a Facemask .COMPULSORY ME FLUTE .

[dalymount]

Is there any clarity on wether we have to wear masks or not ? And do out customers ( if any ) also have to wear them

[dalymount]

Paul Simon eat your heart out ,the erm is writing songs now

[john m]

Is there any clarity on wether we have to wear masks or not ? And do out customers ( if any ) also have to wear them

 Its simple but complicated by its simplicity .Is a taxi a Public Service Vehicle I say NO its a vehicle that the public may use which is a totally different thing .You own your own business you decide like any other business how you want to run it .I see signs on some taxies saying no food on board or WiFi on board or CCTV on board .Its your business some passengers will not take a cab with a driver without a Screen ,Some passengers wont take a cab with a driver without a mask .You decide how you want to operate the passengers will decide who they want to use .

[dalymount]

Well im glad I asked,thanks for clearing that up

[U Wha]

Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

eh! Clue in the name? SPSV = Small "Public Service Vehicle" operated by drivers with SPSV licences.

[john m]

Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

eh! Clue in the name? SPSV = Small "Public Service Vehicle" operated by drivers with SPSV licences.

NO and No a hearse driver or a mourning car driver hold SPSV licences are they Public Service Vehicles .Taxies ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public can use .PUBLIC SERVICE TRANSPORT is transport subsidized by the state as the open market would not provide it as in last bus from town to Blessington with one passenger .

[U Wha]

Is there any clarity on wether we have to wear masks or not ? And do out customers ( if any ) also have to wear them

 Its simple but complicated by its simplicity .Is a taxi a Public Service Vehicle I say NO its a vehicle that the public may use which is a totally different thing .You own your own business you decide like any other business how you want to run it .I see signs on some taxies saying no food on board or WiFi on board or CCTV on board .Its your business some passengers will not take a cab with a driver without a Screen ,Some passengers wont take a cab with a driver without a mask .You decide how you want to operate the passengers will decide who they want to use .

Large Public Service vehicles (Buses and Coaches) are just big versions with seating capacity for over 9 people. The distinction is some operators (Dublin Bus, Bus Eireann, Go AHead. Aircoach etc) have Route Licences that allow them to stop at predetermined stops along the route and pick up passengers that haven't booked a private hire service. So the buses operating along these routes are akin to taxis, in that they can be hailed on the street. Where private bus operators are similar to hackneys and limousines who need to prebooked with an agreed fare. So all buses, coaches, taxis, limousines and hackneys are 'Public Service Vehicles' that have different rules of operation depending on their licence type.

[U Wha]

Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

eh! Clue in the name? SPSV = Small "Public Service Vehicle" operated by drivers with SPSV licences.

NO and No a hearse driver or a mourning car driver hold SPSV licences are they Public Service Vehicles .Taxies ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public can use .PUBLIC SERVICE TRANSPORT is transport subsidized by the state as the open market would not provide it as in last bus from town to Blessington with one passenger .

Incorrect, the hearse themselves (coffin carrier) are not spsv, the drivers may have spsv licences as they may switch driving between the accompanying limousines are as they charging mourners (the passengers) for the privilege (Hire or Reward). Refer to my last reply above regarding how buses operate.

Edit: As per images attached from RSA a hearse does not require a spsv licence but does require to be registered as SPV (Special Purpose Vehicle) that has been equipped to carry deceased remains.

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Guidance_for_Limousine_Vehicle_Choice__PDF.pdf
https://www.rsa.ie/Documents/VS_Information_Notes/Special_Purpose_Vehicles/FAQs%20on%20Hearses.pdf

[Theoneandonly]

Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

eh! Clue in the name? SPSV = Small "Public Service Vehicle" operated by drivers with SPSV licences.

NO and No a hearse driver or a mourning car driver hold SPSV licences are they Public Service Vehicles .Taxies ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public can use .PUBLIC SERVICE TRANSPORT is transport subsidized by the state as the open market would not provide it as in last bus from town to Blessington with one passenger .

Are you really saying that the drivers are vehicles in order to prove a point? that's simply ridiculous, it's the vehicles that are vehicles and the drivers have licences allowing them to drive such vehicles.

Public service transport has nothing to do with a Subsidy, iThey are vehicles that are licensed to carry passengers for hire or reward, and yes Limos/Hacks and  as well as Taxis are included as small public service vehicles (the drivers are people) (not sure what a hearse is classed as TBH)

Some Public Transport is subsidised in order to provide a service where it wouldn't be feasible otherwise, but that is not what defines it, nor is it always necessary.

Just because it suits the narrative in your head doesn't make it so.

[john m]

Ok then Write to Eamo and ask him .Im sure he will telly you ....Exactly what I told you .

[U Wha]

posted in error

[U Wha]

Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

eh! Clue in the name? SPSV = Small "Public Service Vehicle" operated by drivers with SPSV licences.

NO and No a hearse driver or a mourning car driver hold SPSV licences are they Public Service Vehicles .Taxies ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public can use .PUBLIC SERVICE TRANSPORT is transport subsidized by the state as the open market would not provide it as in last bus from town to Blessington with one passenger .

Are you really saying that the drivers are vehicles in order to prove a point? that's simply ridiculous, it's the vehicles that are vehicles and the drivers have licences allowing them to drive such vehicles.

Public service transport has nothing to do with a Subsidy, iThey are vehicles that are licensed to carry passengers for hire or reward, and yes Limos/Hacks and  as well as Taxis are included as small public service vehicles (the drivers are people) (not sure what a hearse is classed as TBH)

Some Public Transport is subsidised in order to provide a service where it wouldn't be feasible otherwise, but that is not what defines it, nor is it always necessary.

Just because it suits the narrative in your head doesn't make it so.

+1

Technically there is no such thing as a taxi or hackney driver. Small Public Service Vehicle drivers have a licence to operate any licenced small public service vehicle. The vehicle licence determines the conditions of operation.

"(not sure what a hearse is classed as TBH)"  See my last reply to John M