medical for renewing your taxi drivers licence?

[Shallowhal]

Of course he was...but i'd say he hasn't but wants to tell everyone that the virus is weak like his opponents and that he beat it....bleach injections all round!!

[U Wha]

U wha
Your quite entitled to your view,and I dare say thousands would agree with you.

Im not one of them however.

 These people came here,and in most industries they are working for less then the legally established minimum rate of pay.

They have undercut the Irish workforce who had fought hard to establish that rate of pay in the first place
 
The ongoing campaign to bring them here by employers and big business masquerading under the banner of compassion for them is totally false.

The only reason the employers want them here,is so they can avail of the cheap imported labour.

These people are prepared to prostitute themselves out to the highest bidder,while in total breach of the established rate of pay.

People like you then say the Irish wont do the trivial hobs,but the fact is,the irish wont do these hobs because they are not being paid the correct rate of pay.

These people to a large extent,have come here,and totally abused the generous welfare system.

Im sorry u wha,but I could NEVER welcome them as I sit on the little rank outside PWC ,and watch these s umbags ILLEGALLY pull in and sit right outside the boat on the far side more or less giving two fingers to me on the OFFICIAL rank just across the road ,and then if anything is said,the fukin racist vard is played

Daly,  I respect your right to believe and think the way you do. I don't agree with everything you say but there are some things that I do agree with but not in their entirety.

I agree  that "These people came here,and in most industries they are working for less then the legally established minimum rate of pay. They have undercut the Irish workforce who had fought hard to establish that rate of pay in the first place" But the Irish have done the same.

This is largely true, "The ongoing campaign to bring them here by employers and big business masquerading under the banner of compassion for them is totally false." Especially in the transport industry. I haven't met another Irish person (yet) working with the agency. There is a chronic shortage of HGV drivers and it will only get worse as most of the drivers will retire in next 10 to 15 years and young people are put off by the length of time it takes and the cost which is about €3k all in.

I agree that this is 100% true. "The irish wont do these hobs because they are not being paid the correct rate of pay." The Irish worked for less than the accepted rate in England and the States and still do as far as I know. 

I don't agree entirely with "These people to a large extent,have come here,and totally abused the generous welfare system." I would suggest it is to a lesser extent and look back to the good ould days when a sizeable section of the indigenious irish population took a hour off work to go and collect their labour.

Like the lads are saying they watch and learn how we do things. Most of them just want a better life and will do what ever it takes when they first arrive. When the new Irish have settled in and are raising their kids with the same bills as the rest of us they change their tune and want to be paid properly. I was working with a polish guy who has been here for 15 years and he was bitching about the romanians working for less.

So I still think immigrants should be welcomed but I also think that everyone should follow the rules, if the rules are fair and just of course.
Everybody should be paid a living wage where they both don't have to work and can spend a reasonable amount of time with their young families and not have to eat beans 3 days a week so they can pay their rent or mortgage.

[dalymount]

U wha
I ALSO respect your views.

I notice that nearly every answer you gave,you compered it to the Irish having done similar in places they went to.

I condemn the Irish for having done that also.

I believe in these covid times ,our government's obligation is to put the Irish first.

In a recent radio interview in cork during the protest,a foreign driver complained that he is only making 75 euro for 6 hours work.

My answer to that cunt is ,HOW FUKIN DARE YOU COMPLAIN. Two weeks ago ,just before this se ond lockdown of Dublin,my total take for 3 nights thers,friday ,Saturday,was 27 euro for the 3 nights combined. Last week,and this week,I didnt even go out.there is no point.

So when I look at that fuker coming here ,and complaining,it makes my blood boil.

I notice you didn't address the accusation I made about them totally ignoring the offical rank on the north wall,and shouting racist if challenged

[sore]

the concept of putting irish first will be to treat immigrants as second-class citizens. it will create apartheid in no time. if immigrants are not welcome, they should not be allowed in in the first place. but once they are legally allowed to live here, they should be treated like anyone else. the early irish emigrants were treated like second class citizens in england. are you are suggesting we do the same to our immigrants?

[dalymount]

Yes I am suggesting that.as far as im concerned,the indigenous people should ALWAYS come first

[dalymount]

I can never understand either why,when people go to the states from this country ( illegally in most cases) they think the Irish government should speak up for them ,and support their desire to be given citizenship of that country.I say fukk them.they jumped ship,and we have no further responsibility towards them

[sore]

That policy will encourage discrimination, foster racism and cause untold suffering to people who are allowed to live here legally. it will be much more humane to ban immigration alltogether.

[U Wha]

U wha
I ALSO respect your views.

I notice that nearly every answer you gave,you compered it to the Irish having done similar in places they went to.

I condemn the Irish for having done that also.

I believe in these covid times ,our government's obligation is to put the Irish first.

In a recent radio interview in cork during the protest,a foreign driver complained that he is only making 75 euro for 6 hours work.

My answer to that cunt is ,HOW FUKIN DARE YOU COMPLAIN. Two weeks ago ,just before this se ond lockdown of Dublin,my total take for 3 nights thers,friday ,Saturday,was 27 euro for the 3 nights combined. Last week,and this week,I didnt even go out.there is no point.

So when I look at that fuker coming here ,and complaining,it makes my blood boil.

I notice you didn't address the accusation I made about them totally ignoring the offical rank on the north wall,and shouting racist if challenged

I refer to my learned co posters answers. I felt that they had provided an  adequate response

[dalymount]

That policy will encourage discrimination, foster racism and cause untold suffering to people who are allowed to live here legally. it will be much more humane to ban immigration alltogether.

I have to say,im amazed at how tolerant you all are,I DONT welcome people here who are taking my fukin job,and I make no bones about it.I dare say there are some on here who agree,but would rather not share their view

[dalymount]

I learned one thing in life.if you want to know about your welfare entitlement in this country,dont ask an Irishman,ask a foreigner.they wrote the fukin book on it

[dalymount]

I still ask the question I have asked before.if its so bad in the direct provision centres,THEN WHY THE FUKK DO THEY KEEP COMING ? surely its not only to keep Ebbs,Kearns,etc supplied with drivers is it ?

[U Wha]

Yes I am suggesting that.as far as im concerned,the indigenous people should ALWAYS come first

But indigenious to what? Who are indigenious? How much time needs to pass to be indigenious?

I would safely say that there are very few irish people who are pure blooded going back to the Fir Bolg over 7000 years ago.

Some research suggests that the first settlers after the ice age came from Britain.

Anyway it is all words. Everything depends on context. For example: What we usually refer to as unionists in the north because they want to remain part of the united kingdom and the tory party on the british mainland who refer to themselves as unionists but in the european context they may be refered to as nationalists because they want control of their own country and to be independent of the EU. On the other hand the Irish Government and state which we usually regard as republican and nationalist may be regarded as unionist in the european context as they want to remain in the european union. What ever your views on either situation the context in each situation is different.

I share your concerns about a race to the bottom regarding wages, everyone loses out. But I don't blame immigrants who work hard and generally obey the law like the rest of us. They have different needs when they first arrive and don't know any better. Just happy to be in a good safe democratic country. I blame government policy! They should enforce a minimum living wage and penalise businesses that try to take advantage of the new Irish. If any taxi driver or other self employed person breaks the industry rules or regulations they should be reprimanded but this should apply across the board with everyone not just immigrants. Plenty of Irish break the rules too.

I have make reference to the Irish doing the same either at home or overseas because we can hardly expect others to operate to a higher standard if the indigenious aren't.

[dalymount]

U wha
I think we are at cross purposses here.
Let me make it very clear from my view point.
I DO NOT WELCOME ANY FOREIGNER HERE WHO IS A THREAT TO MY LIVELIHOOD.


Now I understand ,and respect your right to differ.

I have seen the race card being played so many times ( not only in the taxi game) that it makes me sick to my stomach.

These people are blatantly flaunting the law,and the people charged with enforcing will not do so for fear of being crucified by bodies like the immigrant council of ireland etc.

I am very nationalistic,and I hold very strong right wing views.


I just feel free speech among other things in this country is now under threat from a left wing liberals.

I will NEVER welcome,or accept people who threaten my livelihood,nor should i

[U Wha]

I just feel free speech among other things in this country is now under threat from a left wing liberals.

Now I can agree on that point even though I am left leaning on some things.  it has gone way too Politically Correct. I fully embrace equality and diversity but it has gone beyond that now to the other extreme. I feel as an older white male as if I am responsible for all the ills of the past against women, people of colour and different sexual orientation. Most white males don't have or have never had that power. It came from the wealthy ruling class in order to maintain control. In fact women who owned property and over 30 years of age had the vote when the poorest men didn't. All men over 21 got the vote in 1918 and all women in 1928. So ordinary men had no control over whether women had a vote until 1918 when every man could vote and all women got it within ten years of all men being able to vote on it. As for slavery I believe the Irish were slaves at one point under king James and I make my point again that it was the wealthy ruling class that allowed slavery and abolished it. Ordinary men had no say! Don't even get me started on male parental rights or the right to life. Too much of the mother and its my body shite! Maybe the homosexuals had an argument for discrimination by men but thats just because most men were afraid of getting buggered.

I will NEVER welcome,or accept people who threaten my livelihood,nor should i

I don't want my livelihood threatened either. I just don't think it is the immigrants who are responsible it is the state and business interests.

[Bob Shillin]

It's our own fault that taxi driving is the best that we can do, or the best that we have chosen to do. If we wanted less competition we should have studied harder when we had the time, and the oppurtunity.