Charge ........

[mercenary for hire]

It's possible Bubba if they're the ones VW recommend for maximum efficiency and performance.Some of the wheels on those yokes are massive.

There are a few lads in Skoda Enyaq sporty versions and they must be on 19/20 inch rims.They're like truck tyres.

[John m]

SO THIS IS THE PLAN RREAD THE NUMBERS WE ARE ALL GOING TO DRIVE ELECTRIC MOTORCARS BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER for the environment Coastal EU states commit to creating enough wind energy to supply 10% of union’s needs
Dublin Declaration signed by nine EU coastal states vows to increase power generated from offshore wind by 2050  .So 10% of the EU needs by 2050 where the fuck is the rest coming from .This is all bolloxology and being exposed as bolloxology 10% by 2050 .So 90% is still going to be generated by non Green methods .How much will it cost to fill a battery with Gas or oil generated energy .You couldnt make this stuff up even if you inhaled a load of Eamo Herb or CoCoa Dust .GET A HIACE and a holster for your GUN .

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

SO THIS IS THE PLAN RREAD THE NUMBERS WE ARE ALL GOING TO DRIVE ELECTRIC MOTORCARS BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER for the environment Coastal EU states commit to creating enough wind energy to supply 10% of union’s needs
Dublin Declaration signed by nine EU coastal states vows to increase power generated from offshore wind by 2050  .So 10% of the EU needs by 2050 where the fuck is the rest coming from .This is all bolloxology and being exposed as bolloxology 10% by 2050 .So 90% is still going to be generated by non Green methods .How much will it cost to fill a battery with Gas or oil generated energy .You couldnt make this stuff up even if you inhaled a load of Eamo Herb or CoCoa Dust .GET A HIACE and a holster for your GUN .

Eamo is gonna have to build a nuke station or 4

[John m]

So after all his Bolloxology we are aiming for 10% of wind energy by 2050 .To hear him tell it we were going to be supplying Sollyhull and Clethorpes with wind generated energy by the week after the not next but the next one after that FA Cup final .We were going to be nett exporters of Energy .This 10% is EU policy and they actually signed a deal to reach this heigh water line for energy supply .Some of Putins mates are already supplying more than that today .Its all beginning to fall apart now Putins Gas cutoff has exposed it .Wind Energy is not the Future .

[John m]

JUst when you thought the madness was ending ......Ireland must cut its dairy and beef herd numbers in half, plant enough trees to cover county Dublin five times over, and rewet almost all its drained grasslands, to reach its legally binding ‘net zero’ carbon target by 2050.

That’s according to University of Limerick and University of Galway scientists, published in the journal Nature Sustainability,

“There is no easy way out of this,” says Dr David Styles, associate professor in Agricultural Sustainability at the University of Galway.

“If we are serious about getting to climate neutrality there has to be huge abatement achieved in agriculture.

[watty]

€300 a tyre..that's crazy.I hate paying €115 for mine.

So I`m told , might be horseshit though.

I think you're right.  My MG5 has 'normal' 16 inch wheels.  But what put me off the other EV's was their 19/20inch tyres & the expense of changing them!  They're probably fine if you're a Mammy doing 10k/yr but we drive much more over all sorts of roads.

[watty]

JUst when you thought the madness was ending ......Ireland must cut its dairy and beef herd numbers in half, plant enough trees to cover county Dublin five times over, and rewet almost all its drained grasslands, to reach its legally binding ‘net zero’ carbon target by 2050.

That’s according to University of Limerick and University of Galway scientists, published in the journal Nature Sustainability,

“There is no easy way out of this,” says Dr David Styles, associate professor in Agricultural Sustainability at the University of Galway.

“If we are serious about getting to climate neutrality there has to be huge abatement achieved in agriculture.

Makes sense:
- The agriculture industry contributes a huge amount of pollution compared to other EU countries.
- We have extremely low % of forestry land compared to other EU countries.

Really, we're just bringing ourselves up to the EU averages.

[C5]

Was watching bob flavins channel, and he was saying he got a message from a taxi driver or it was passed on to him from someone else that he was heading of to work and his Nissan leaf would not go, so he got it taken to the dealership and he thought it was under guarantee, so they checked it over and said the main drive battery has failed and it would cost 14,000 euro to replace, he said its still under guarantee, and they said its done over the 160,000 kms, it time or range which ever comes first. So he is in a spot of bother after listening to government and environmentalists that don't have a fucking clue about cars and how some driver do huge mileage. I heard a few weeks ago about a taxi driver in cork with an iconic 5 years old 246,000km with main battery fail. The guanine pigs are starting to fall.

[watty]

   Well, that only took a month to recycle!

Met a bloke earlier telling me his mates 2018 Nissan leaf stopped working a few thousand miles out of warranty.(180k).Nissan wanted €750 Just to diagnose the problem and then wanted €18000 for a new battery after diagnostics found a fault..The story sounded genuine to me if a little bit scary.I think the driver works up in Gala taxis and is driving something else now.I'm assuming the car is a write off.

I know the older Nissans don't have liquid cooling and it could be an isolated case but it could happen to other brands as they age.Worth thinking about either way.Sleep well Watty...

This story has been doing the rounds for a week or two.  It always starts with "I heard a bloke with a Leaf..."  Dublin is a small city and if it were true, his name would be doing the rounds and he'd have made the newspapers by now.  Same happened with the MG ZS - there was one video about rust on YouTube and the story took off that MG would rust like crazy.  They don't.

Nissan Leafs have been around since 2011 and if they fell over at 180k, it would be well known by now?  AFAIK, The Nissan Leaf is the only EV in the market that does air cooling instead of air cooling.  The only one.  So I'll sleep fine with my liquid-cooled battery.

And €18k for a new battery is a bit cheeky, like Nissan Ireland doesn't want (or doesn't know how) to fix the battery.  Just search YouTube for 'Leaf battery replacement'.  I reckon Stg£4k would get the Leaf sorted.

Don't believe everything you read on the Internet 

And here's the YouTube video from the start of August --> https://youtu.be/puYuAFZkTPU

[Punter]

Heard a story yesterday 161 GVA Merc --I think thats the model --its a small enough yoke --electric ,battery fucked a year out of warranty--17k plus Vat --70k on clock !

[watty]

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1137128_nissan-leaf-ev-batteries-long-lifetime-recovery-recycling-farther-off

Nissan Leaf batteries are lasting a long time, according to an executive with the automaker, and that may push mass reuse and recycling further into the future.

"Almost all of the batteries we've made are still in cars," Nissan UK marketing director Nic Thomas said last month in an interview with Forbes (via Charged EVs). Recall that Nissan was among the first automakers to launch a modern electric car, delivering its first Leaf hatchbacks in the U.S. in December 2010.  This follows comments made by Nissan in 2019 when, based on then-current charging and degradation data, the automaker predicted that most battery packs would easily outlast the vehicles—and not just the ones that are crashed.

Nissan doesn't have a stockpile of batteries to be recycled or converted to other uses, Thomas said in the interview.The automaker has used EV batteries as stationary power sources in a handful of demonstrations, and Thomas said a new UK factory currently under construction will use EV batteries to store power generated by solar panels and wind turbines.  But it seems Nissan EV batteries are mostly still being used for their original purpose. <snip>

[mercenary for hire]

If they lowered the prices of the battery replacements the public wouldn't be so scared.Even if one in a thousand Leaf batteries fail early that's still too much.

[watty]

I guess they don't keep them in stock so if they have to supply a new battery, it will come from the factory where they were planning to put it in a new car.  So they need that 'new car' profit.

As an aside, a MG5 taxi driver asked and got a reply from MG Ireland about their batteries.  MG Ireland said they didn't keep any stock because they didn't expect to replace any!  Bravado or confidence?  We'll find out in a few years.  The MG5 is a Chinese car and is known as the Roewe Ei5 there.  Some clever person will set up a business importing Chinese MG parts into Europe for the MG (I guess)?

[watty]

Re the odds of a dodgy EV, you potentially have the same problem with ICE cars and they call them 'lemons'.  I think JohnM believes he got a dodgy 2008 Octavia whereas my 2007 Octy was bulletproof.

[mercenary for hire]

Time will tell if we were worried about nothing.It does trouble me that the warranties are up after 100000Km on some models.If the manufacturers were confident in their product they'd cover them to 200k and beyond.