Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule

[mercenary for hire]

If I was complaining you'd know about it Belker.Some lads got off lightly with generous leccy car grants.The grants may not be available on their next change of vehicle and business might not be so good..I won't be taking the grant myself.I doubt any of those leccy motors will be still taxis in ten years.Hope I'm wrong.

Car prices have gone up considerably in the last few years.If you wrote off the Avensis tomorrow you might struggle to get a reasonably priced replacement.The market is messed up.

[Belker]

Putting aside €100/wk for 3 years would get you €15,600.  Belker has more or less posted his life history on here and even he managed to save something like €20k to buy his Avensis for cash......

That was my old 6 year plan and it worked very well, even with a few tweaks along the way.

The week after I bought my 171 in 2019, I started a new 7 year savings plan to hopefully go new in 2027,
fer me saving in advance and paying in cash is a lot better than paying interest on a bank motor loan.

[Belker]

.......Some lads got off lightly with generous leccy car grants.......

As in the few forward thinking taxi drivers on here like Watty and Korky, Etc that I tip my hat to !

[Belker]

........ Car prices have gone up considerably in the last few years.If you wrote off the Avensis tomorrow you might struggle to get a reasonably priced replacement.The market is messed up.

I purposefully bought a 171 Avensis so that if it does get written off then my insurance will cover me fer a 181 Avensis, as they stopped making the Avensis in 2018.

[mercenary for hire]

I have a grant myself Belker.Most of us on here have approval.The leccy cars are no longer available at the cheaper prices that they once were.Korky and Watty might be regretting their decision if leccy prices keep jumping and power restrictions are enforced a year or two down the road.

It's that uncertainly that makes me happy that I'm not going to be going electric.Forward thinking is why I'm buying a new Corolla.Could be a shit idea but we will see in a few years when the leccy motors have done a few hundred thousand kilometers who was wrong.This leccy car thing is still an elaborate experiment.Ya might save a bit compared to a diesel but the savings are much smaller compared to a hybrid.

[watty]

........ Car prices have gone up considerably in the last few years.If you wrote off the Avensis tomorrow you might struggle to get a reasonably priced replacement.The market is messed up.

I purposefully bought a 171 Avensis so that if it does get written off then my insurance will cover me fer a 181 Avensis, as they stopped making the Avensis in 2018.

Insurance replaces like-with-like. Why would they give you a 2018 when there must be 1,000's of 2017 Avensissssss you could buy second-hand?  And surely a 2017 Avensis taxi doesn't have the same value as a 2017 private Avensis?

[Belker]

........ Car prices have gone up considerably in the last few years.If you wrote off the Avensis tomorrow you might struggle to get a reasonably priced replacement.The market is messed up.

I purposefully bought a 171 Avensis so that if it does get written off then my insurance will cover me fer a 181 Avensis, as they stopped making the Avensis in 2018.

Insurance replaces like-with-like. Why would they give you a 2018 when there must be 1,000's of 2017 Avensissssss you could buy second-hand?  And surely a 2017 Avensis taxi doesn't have the same value as a 2017 private Avensis?

(Without googling) I distinctly remember reading that if your car is written off then your insurance will replace it with the same car up to 2 years newer.
It was around the time that they stopped giving out cash payments fer cars that had met Mr Maguire and Paterson !

[Belker]

I have a grant myself Belker.Most of us on here have approval......

Why did you waste your and their time when;

......I won't be taking the grant myself.I doubt any of those leccy motors will be still taxis in ten years....

[mercenary for hire]

Honestly Belker it costs nothing to apply for it.Should I get caught out I can always pick up a leaf secondhand.My new car has not even been built yet.Think of the grant as an insurance policy.I believe Silver and Hal had approval too but may not use it.

Every time the leccy prices increase I'm less inclined to go electric.

[Belker]

..... It's that uncertainly that makes me happy that I'm not going to be going electric.Forward thinking is why I'm buying a new Corolla.Could be a shit idea but we will see in a few years when the leccy motors have done a few hundred thousand kilometers who was wrong.This leccy car thing is still an elaborate experiment.Ya might save a bit compared to a diesel but the savings are much smaller compared to a hybrid.

Best of luck with the New Joe MFH, I have another 5 years on my Avensis but most likely I will join the Corolla brigade in 2027 with a Grey/Silver saloon with the leather seats.

[watty]

As the saying goes, better to have the grant letter and not need it rather than need it and not have it!

It's worth noting that this is €15 million of EU money to be spent over 3 years.  The NTA have it and I doubt they'll give it back.  The Year 1 money ran out in Oct while the Year 2 (2022) money ran out initially in Feb (but some got re-released in Aug?) so the demand is there. 

The question is what will the NTA do with the Year 2 money?  Will the Year 2 letters be allowed to carry over to Year 3 or will Year 3 be a mega-dump of all the money?  Or even a Year 4 if there's no EV's readily available?

[John m]

Your representatives informed the Oireachtas Comittee that taxi drivers are terrible business planners and that the Taxi industry does not pay .The Solution to providing a reliable service looks like Rideshare private hire .Your representatives look like they have conceded defeat even with up to 20K available to taxi drivers in Grants they cannot afford to replace their cars .

Your Reps are talking to Committees who have probably never even been in a taxi telling them the Present taxi model is not fit for purpose .Just a thought If I was to Address the Oireachtas Transport Comittee .I would of Asked .

When are the NTA going to put in place a ride Hailing App for taxi drivers that is Commission Free to aid PASSENGERS get a Taxi .The Goodbody Report had aspirations that ALL drivers be aligned to a Dispatcher .As it is Beyond the remit of the NTA or Taxi Regulator to Impose any outside  Commercial impediment on how Taxis Operate .It has always been Taxi Drivers understanding that the NTA was in fact going to provide the Hailing App as infrastructure just a digital Rank not a Commercial implement that would interfere with any other Cost based service provider as the NTA application would not collect or distribute any monies due to the Drivers .

The one piece of infrastructure that would solve the availability of taxis and reduce emissions as the nearest taxi would get first refusal would be a TFI operated taxi hailing App.

My follow up would of been .

Now that ALL taxis MUST accept Credit or Debit cards there is no Commercial interest served by a TFI operated Hailing App so no Existing Commercial Apps can claim undue interference by the TFI in their Commercial Operations .


That is how you Represent an Industry not tell them you and your mates have failed to provide the service you were licenced to do .

You don't mention the lack of EVs available to the Irish market and in particular taxi drivers with €20,000+ to invest, Why?

Is there a shortage of EVs? or just cheap lower end EVs? The Grant does not apply to Just Cheap EVs it applies to ALL Evs in that light there are no shortage of EVs .

[taxi1990]

..... It's that uncertainly that makes me happy that I'm not going to be going electric.Forward thinking is why I'm buying a new Corolla.Could be a shit idea but we will see in a few years when the leccy motors have done a few hundred thousand kilometers who was wrong.This leccy car thing is still an elaborate experiment.Ya might save a bit compared to a diesel but the savings are much smaller compared to a hybrid.

Best of luck with the New Joe MFH, I have another 5 years on my Avensis but most likely I will join the Corolla brigade in 2027 with a Grey/Silver saloon with the leather seats.

I would never buy a brand new car for a taxi. does it not do your head in when they puke in your brand new car?

[Panel]

Hard to strategically plan for a investment in the game when the economic landscape is so unpredictable, myself I’ve 5 years and a bit left on my wanked out french panel van so an extension wouldn’t concern me.

However I wouldn’t want to be financed up to me hole on a new car just as the economy is nosediving, most of us here remember the bad days too well.

However there’s little options, buying a 9 year old shitbox will run ya the best part of €5k now, if I was in the position of having to upgrade the motor in 2023 I’d leave it until the plate ran out (giving the most of the window for the nta to offer another year extension) and then I’d rent a heep for €150 per week with the luxury to hand it back if the economy tanks.

[mercenary for hire]

"I would never buy a brand new car for a taxi. does it not do your head in when they puke in your brand new car? "

I've never had a poker on the days.