600 free energy

[John m]

Just thinking with the heating allowance and the 400 bonus heating allowance and the 600 energy money .Why does everybody get it .Some people got tens of thousands of Home insulation .Why do they need it ?

[watty]

Maybe it's like the PUP - easier to give it to everyone rather than try to work out a means-testing scheme in a few weeks.

[John m]

They will need to do a means test for next year and the year after that .If The War in Ukrain continues then no Gas will drive up costs .The Brits who guaranteed the price of energy will be bankrupt before the next FA Cup .I wonder how many old people are in those death camps but still getting the heating and ESB money paid to their kids that live in their gaffs with their dusky girlfriends or boyfriends who sent them to Stalag Nursinghome .

[silverbullet]

Just thinking with the heating allowance and the 400 bonus heating allowance and the 600 energy money .Why does everybody get it .Some people got tens of thousands of Home insulation .Why do they need it ?

Just say No.

[Cool Boola]

I am not taking it….Just give it to the really poor!

[watty]

Read somewhere today that something like 125,000 or 175,000 households are in arrears already!

[John m]

I am not taking it….Just give it to the really poor!

Dont think you have an option to refuse its paid directly to your supplier just in case you waste it on Food .Think about this they pay for electric but its Gas that has Gone up ?We are still subsadizing Data Centers with guarenteed cheap Electric .

[Belker]

My leccy bill is about a Ton every 2 months, so Free leccy fer mise fer a year ! 

Personally I also disagree that taxi road tax is much cheaper than private road tax !
But I'll keep miz gob shut on that one too !!

[watty]

For the average household, their Oct bill will be (almost) double their Aug bill AND their Dec bill will be (almost) double the Oct one!  We ain't seen nothing yet!  Over 100,00 in arrears already...


In other news to cheer you up, OPEC met recently and agreed to limit oil output and this will probably increase energy prices around the world.

Some of the world's top oil-producing countries have agreed to cut the amount they export in a decision expected to raise oil prices around the world.

Members of Opec+ - a group that includes Saudi Arabia and Russia - said they would slash production by two million barrels per day.

The group aims to support prices which have fallen as the world economy slows.

A barrel of Brent Crude oil was trading at $84.06 in late September - down from highs of around $130 this spring.

However, news of Opec+'s planned production cut pushed prices up by 1% to $92.74 a barrel on Wednesday.

The cut announced by Opec+ is the biggest reduction by the group since 2020. <snip>

[John m]

The Yanks have said they wont release any more oil from their strategic reserves .So their exports of oil will also drop as they need it at home .Expect about 15c more by the end of the month .2.00 a liter will be the norm again .

[Belker]

Yiz all just got 600 Euro worth of Free leccy ...
and all yiz do is complain ??

[watty]

No.  The energy companies will get €600 to mitigate or reduce their customer bills.  Nothing to stop the leccy companies increasing the bills until they get their pint of blood on top of the €600. 

Talk to any of your friends/passengers with those Pre-Pay meters - they'd be nearly crying by the end of their story.  The money just vanishes out of those meters.

We get a good chunk of our gas from the UK (Scotland).  Their energy regulator wrote to our one last week warning there's no guarantee that they'll keep supplying us.  If they stop (Brexit negotiations á la Putin & his pipelines), what are we gonna do?  We'd be fukked.  Houses would be ok but I guess many industries would have to shut down.

I'm nowhere near as pessimistic as JohnM but I think we're in for a long 6 months & a quiet Xmas.

[Belker]

Thanks be to God they only gave us 600 each !
Imagine if they had gave us a few grand each ?
There would be full-scale riots on the streets !!

[John m]

No.  The energy companies will get €600 to mitigate or reduce their customer bills.  Nothing to stop the leccy companies increasing the bills until they get their pint of blood on top of the €600. 

Talk to any of your friends/passengers with those Pre-Pay meters - they'd be nearly crying by the end of their story.  The money just vanishes out of those meters.

We get a good chunk of our gas from the UK (Scotland).  Their energy regulator wrote to our one last week warning there's no guarantee that they'll keep supplying us.  If they stop (Brexit negotiations á la Putin & his pipelines), what are we gonna do?  We'd be fukked.  Houses would be ok but I guess many industries would have to shut down.

I'm nowhere near as pessimistic as JohnM but I think we're in for a long 6 months & a quiet Xmas.

Watty the 600 only last till March 2023 .I posted in the Brexit tread years ago the Brits can introduce export Duty on everything they export including Gas and Electricity to Ireland .Leos Backpassage deal let Boros get Brexit Done .If he done what he was told and let Barnier do the EU deal the Brits might of had a second referendum or accepted Mrs Mays Deal .Brexit was delayed by Covid now watch Cynide Tits play hardball with the EU she has nothing left to play with after backing down on tax cuts .All she has left is Brexit and exporting migrants to Rwanda .Im not Pessamistic I am a realist .

[Shallow Hal]

Talk to any of your friends/passengers with those Pre-Pay meters - they'd be nearly crying by the end of their story.  The money just vanishes out of those meters

Most think they're doing great cos they think they're on top of things but there's no tellin them they're  being fleeced and they're usually the one's on low income/SW and I know that most of the utility companies require a deposit if they enquire about signing up,almost being corralled into the poverty trap!!