Going anywhere nice for your holidays?

[Rat Catcher]

I agree 100% that we need to find more suitable / less expensive accommodation than hotels. However, having the hotels full all year round is putting more money into the local economies. To give you an example a few Sundays ago I picked up a young Ukranian female accompanied by a Fingal gentleman at a Bus Stop in Lissenhall and drove her to Gormanstown School via Donabate for a pre-agreed 70 notes. Good for me, good for the economy. Many hotel proprietors have suggested that their premises will not be available for tourists going forward due to staffing difficulties with some suggesting that the very influx of immigrants that's keeping roofs over their families' heads will will further solve the staffing crisis going forward and, in fact, may well enable them to reopen their doors to tourists in the fullness of time.

To be fair to America, many of our own found refuge in those parts when our British neighbours triesd to starve us to death... and many of those done very well for themselves with some returning with considerable contributions to our exchequer.

Of course, many will criticise the hospitality sector for not employing "our own" but I guess they would if they could. Would you employ an Irish Nanny/Child Minder if one were willing to work for you?

[John m]

Your Ukranian is not going home EVER they are here to stay and will be joined by their men .Putin WILL Nuke Ukraine because Biden wants him to .Once Putin uses battle field Nukes that removes the Taboo allowing the Yanks actually win a fight .Yanks want a rule of War change before they take on the Chinaman or Iran .Its all bollox Ireland has about 83,000 inward migrants but how many Irish are there in Britain,USA ,Australia .I would think 99.7763% of posters on this forum have a family member who has emigrated .

[Rat Catcher]

Many will undoubtedly settle here, erm.... and, at least as far as the economy is concerned, they will be more than welcome. Our own homeless won't work in hotels and bars, won't stack brick, won't fit kitchens/windows/etc, won't fix cars/buses/trucks/etc., won't clean our houses, cars and offices, won't drive our taxis, buses, trams, trains, trucks, etc, etc... These are all things that are essential for our economy to function. You are, of course, correct to note that we have a long tradition of emigration, probably on a less voluntary basis than is currently the case. The world is a smaller place today than was the case in 1835, for example, and our youngsters are, for the most part, eager to explore foreign climes.

[John m]

Rodent I think they ALL will stay and be joined by more .Since this kicked off I have been convinced that this will go nuke .There is no sense in having Nukes if you are never going to use them they are no threat .America will continue to arm Ukraine as the Retard Clown Zaleznyy plays Cowboys and Indians not realizing he CANNOT WIN because Russia CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE .Zalesnyy is a DICTATOR in the real sense of the word he has suspended the Opposition from Parliament but the West ignores that fact .Its shamefull what Zalesnyy and Biden and Boris are doing to Ukraines people .Dont think the Yanks or Brits give any of their Fucks if Ukraine is turned into a Nuclear Wasteland .

[Octavia1]

I agree 100% that we need to find more suitable / less expensive accommodation than hotels. However, having the hotels full all year round is putting more money into the local economies. To give you an example a few Sundays ago I picked up a young Ukranian female accompanied by a Fingal gentleman at a Bus Stop in Lissenhall and drove her to Gormanstown School via Donabate for a pre-agreed 70 notes. Good for me, good for the economy. Many hotel proprietors have suggested that their premises will not be available for tourists going forward due to staffing difficulties with some suggesting that the very influx of immigrants that's keeping roofs over their families' heads will will further solve the staffing crisis going forward and, in fact, may well enable them to reopen their doors to tourists in the fullness of time.

To be fair to America, many of our own found refuge in those parts when our British neighbours triesd to starve us to death... and many of those done very well for themselves with some returning with considerable contributions to our exchequer.

Of course, many will criticise the hospitality sector for not employing "our own" but I guess they would if they could. Would you employ an Irish Nanny/Child Minder if one were willing to work for you?

Wer are the  immigrants in yur car are getting the 70 quid?
Lismore is a rural community dependent on tourism and the money that tourists bring into these communities from abroad ...I taut I explained it very well ....the social welfare payments these migrants
Are getting is coming from the pockets of the people in these communities..ie the tax payers....and the ammount they are given  by the social welfare is hardly going to boost these communities Economies atall ...it may pay for a bag of tobacco and an odd visit to the sweetshop for a treet ...  the 70 euro you obtained was probably
Paid for by the social ...if not ide question how  a refugee could squander such a large ammount of cash on a taxi which is the equivalent of a 3rd of benefit for the week Rat.....yes Ukrainians are allowed to work but in the vast majority of cases ide argue they are in minimum wage employment

[Octavia1]

Many will undoubtedly settle here, erm.... and, at least as far as the economy is concerned, they will be more than welcome. Our own homeless won't work in hotels and bars, won't stack brick, won't fit kitchens/windows/etc, won't fix cars/buses/trucks/etc., won't clean our houses, cars and offices, won't drive our taxis, buses, trams, trains, trucks, etc, etc... These are all things that are essential for our economy to function. You are, of course, correct to note that we have a long tradition of emigration, probably on a less voluntary basis than is currently the case. The world is a smaller place today than was the case in 1835, for example, and our youngsters are, for the most part, eager to explore foreign climes.

Can you explain to me why all those jobs wer done by irish 30 years ago ? How my parents and everyone's parents I knew availed of Effectively free housing , healthcare , education  ...everyone had a pension  and our national debt wasn't € 230,000,000,000 or even close to it?
Putting 8 migrants into a room in bunk beds and bringing down wages is why irish won't do them jobs ....because ther is no future in
Wages at the levels now offered  ....the end result if this continues  is poverty reeked ghettos where the next generation of immigrants become disenfranchised and resentful and turn to drug dealing , crime and gang membership as they have done all across Europe

[John m]

Irish welfare explained .Big Sharon Quigley had a kid back in the 70s got Unmarried Mothers and a Flat in the Flats near the church Ronny moved in he worked doing the Coal for Big Dommos Brother off a Dray and Horse .They only had the one kid he got free third level education went to Trinners studied the Sex Life of the Bolivian Fruitfly got his Phd .Sharon got the Childrens allowance until he finished college .The youngfella got grants and a Gaff off the Ivy trust for £4 a week .He has never worked as he is researching his book .Getting over 100,000 in Grant money .When the text book is finished every Vet school and college in the World will purchase a copy for their refrence library .All tax free as he will have a Charlie Haughey artists tax exemption .He managed to get on the Sick as he suffers from a Nervous disposition .He is looking forward to getting his old age pension so from the cradle to the Grave you can be kept by the State .And you wonder why they come .We live in a country based of fraud and begging .From the Foundation of the State the British ponied up for Pensions and Welfare owed from Colonization when that ran out we Joined the EEC to get more free Coin .Our Pension scheme is unfunded we need more people in work to pay our welfare thats the reality .The system is broken .
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[markmiwurdz]

The Town/City that depends on Hotels full of fugees for Restaurant Pub Taxi business instead of Uncle Sam's tourists is truly fooked beyond recognition.

[John m]

The Town/City that depends on Hotels full of fugees for Restaurant Pub Taxi business instead of Uncle Sam's tourists is truly fooked beyond recognition.

My mate driving a taxi got a snatch at the airport this morning and the return and same for tomorrow .3 lads from Leeds over for the racing .Its cheaper for them to fly in then fly out and do the same tomorrow than stay in Dublin .Cheapest room in Dublin for the weekend was 280 for a double room and the same for a single .

[Cool Boola]

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[Belker]

Doom and Gloom everywhere !

Shite sick of listening to it all of me life, from Terry Hall of The Specials singing 'Ghost town' and Johnny Rotten with 'God save the Queen' and all the Irish bands with similar lyrics. All anyone seems interested in is what can the worst possible thing be to happen and then latch on to it and sing or preach about it, just the same as on here in this topic.

And here we are all here with big fat bellies, no one short a few quid fer food, no one here homeless, everyone up to date as much as they wish with phones and TV's, Etc... And all we ye do is Fookin moan !

Uber rideshare and me Fookin DPF concern me, the rest I couldn't give a Fiddlers about !
I got a Frummer Fri night and brought the 'Hairy fella' home last night, paid most of it willingly to me small fella's 750 car repair bill, and I'll be back out tonight at midnight to make my own coin fer my own expenses.

[Rat Catcher]

You're something of an enigma when it comes to migrants, Octy. One minute it's "send them home" and the next minute "every house should have one".

However, I can answer most of your queries with one word, in fact quoting the great Sir Anthony Charles Lynton Blair KG... Education, Education, Education.

Even the kids of the corpo built ghettos of yesteryear are either too well educated to follow in their parents' footsteps filling low skilled jobs or lack the practical skills/training to pursue trades. The theory that we have plenty of workers waiting to address those roles if and when wages are increased is pure fantasy. The economy is at full employment in practical terms so there is nobody who wants to work waiting on the sidelines.

Similarly, experience shows second generation migrants are just as likely to attain 3rd level education and join the workforce as are our own kids. That said, we are in the context of a boom so we do have to be mindful of potential pitfalls that may emerge when the next recession hits.

[Rat Catcher]

The Town/City that depends on Hotels full of fugees for Restaurant Pub Taxi business instead of Uncle Sam's tourists is truly fooked beyond recognition.

The dependency on migrants (not necessarily refugees) is for labour more than anything else, MMW. I was up above in Dublin for a Tradfest event last Saturday and - get this, in January - there wasn't a table available to have a bite to eat in any bar/restaurant in Temple Bar at 17:13 in evening. Where we eventually settled for a pint, folk were eating their dinner standing up, I kid you not... plate balanced in one hand, fork in the other and knife on the floor. There wasn't an Irishman employed in any of the few bars we visited along our way.

However, migrants do spend money... not necessarily as much as tourists (although during a COVID '19 anall staycation in West Cork I was reliably informed that Dublin tourists spend multiples of what them Americans leave behind and you don't need to hire a halfwit with a fiddle to get them into the bar) but, perhaps more regularly. The (threatened) closure of an hotel in a small backwater town could have far reaching consequences for the local economy.

[Rat Catcher]

Sorry, Octy. I forgot to answer where the migrant got the 70 notes for my fare. I guess I could say she done a bit of babysitting for a right wing extremist... but you'd see right through that! In fact, it was the Fingal gentleman who negotiated and discharged the fare in that instance.

[Octavia1]

Sorry, Octy. I forgot to answer where the migrant got the 70 notes for my fare. I guess I could say she done a bit of babysitting for a right wing extremist... but you'd see right through that! In fact, it was the Fingal gentleman who negotiated and discharged the fare in that instance.

"Babysitting for a right wing extremist "