Would you think there is any chance of getting a WAV grant now?

[Belker]

Got me charger survey yesterday...1600 plus another 200 to ESB to connect up the meter tails.

After a grant  of 600 it will be 1200 net cost.Me fukin car isn't even worth 1200.It's very hard to see the value now that leccy prices are so expensive.I'm going back on the fence where it's nice and cheap

I'll repeat what I said already Belker that the grants are artificailly inflating the prices.There's no more than an hours work to install a charger on my gaff but they're charging about 650 for labour after the cost of the cable and charger is factored in.

Your doing your upmost best to talk yourself out of the deal of the century as I see it,
you tick all the 4 box requirements, I unfortunately barely tick the First one.

Your reminding me of 'Renter mentality' where they continue to rent because there is no unforseen overheads,
while paying 10k per year in rent fer a Taxi that cost 3k per year to maintain, and they actually believe they are the Winners !

[mercenary for hire]

I'm deffo not saving money by going electric Belker.The Prius is a frugal beast.I'd be changing cause I want something nice and new.

[Belker]

Watty did the figures before on leccy verses petrol/diesel a year or so back.
I think he was just under 50% of what the petrol/diesel prices were on non-hybrids.

Diesel has come down a lot since and leccy has increased but no way could a leccy car be any way near as expensive to run as a Diesel/petrol or even hybrid.

[mercenary for hire]

I know ya won't believe me Belker but Prius gets an easy 50/55mpg...some newer ones can get 65mpg.I'm a lazy git and I rarely put €50 a week into mine.

If yer moving from an old thirsty diesel to electric the savings are there but they're not sufficient to warrant a changeover without grants.

Higher home charging rates have messed up the whole thing up.I'll be paying nearly 50cent per KWH to charge at home.

The main reason I'm doing it is because a new Corolla costs 34500.I can get a leccy yoke on the road for 20k and it will still be worth at least 15k in three years.If I don't like it I can trade it in without it costing me a lot.Plus they have all the gadgets which is a big help.

[Belker]

...... Higher home charging rates have messed up the whole thing up.I'll be paying nearly 50cent per KWH to charge at home. .....

There is a lot to learn about home charging rates, a leccy driver mate explained it all to me before, it sounded confusing but he had it all sussed, the correct charging times and all the settings on the home charger, Etc.. Prob be very simple when ya get used to it.

[watty]

Watty did the figures before on leccy verses petrol/diesel a year or so back.
I think he was just under 50% of what the petrol/diesel prices were on non-hybrids.

Diesel has come down a lot since and leccy has increased but no way could a leccy car be any way near as expensive to run as a Diesel/petrol or even hybrid.

E.&O.E.   When I got my EV approx 18 months ago, it was a no-brainer.  Diesel was about 80c/100km while charging at home was maybe 20-30% of that.  Charging on the street was maybe half.  Then prices went crazy and street charging was the same as diesel.  It's still pretty neck and neck, I reckon (without doing any sums).  You used to be able to get night rates for home charging around 5c-20c/kWh (not to be confused with above cent/100km) but that's long gone for new comers.  Home charging is still cheaper than diesel but the difference is not a wide as it used to be.

Higher home charging rates have messed up the whole thing up.I'll be paying nearly 50cent per KWH to charge at home.

The electricity companies are dragging their feet in passing on the drop in electricity costs worldwide.

[John m]

Watty .Let me throw this in the Mix .Ireland Inc has a deal to supply power to Data Centers below cost .You can be sure that the cost of that subsidy is passed on to other users .If you see a Heard of Windmills you never see them all working they have continuous maintenance like the Forth bridge by the time you fix the last one the first one needs .I doubt Electricity prices will drop and as Data Centers work 24/7 Night time rates will be the same as day time .Its a supply and demand sort of thing .Elon Musk is investing Billions in Rapid Chargers all over the World and trying to get other Manufacturers to use his system .That cunt dosent do stuff not to make money .Can see Government offering a Half a Bucket full of ESB at a certain rate to keep the lights on in your gaff at a reduced rate then increasing the cost per unit the more you use in the name of energy conservation .