Irish Presidential Bet

[Punter]

My Politico mate says its Mary Lou if she wants it--but she has various family health issues as for Bertie no chance ,Mick hates him for what he did to party !
But the way the world is voting fuck knows !

[John m]

My Politico mate says its Mary Lou if she wants it--but she has various family health issues as for Bertie no chance ,Mick hates him for what he did to party !
But the way the world is voting fuck knows !

I did post Mick has told Td s if you support Berty no promotion but Mick from Cork is gone after The Early School leaver takes over Mick will Step down to Back benches .

In SF Circles Mary Low is looked on as a Fucking Waste of Space a Loser and A liability .Since she took over they have Stagnated .The Army Council would love to move her aside a Presidential Nomonation would mean they would replace her with Docherty or the Health Spokesperson .

Here is the Question Political Parties need to ask Can FG win NO Why 30% of voters will vote SF they would give Jimmy Saville their second prefrence before FG .Another 10% of voters wont vote for any party so FG need to get 50% of the vote out of 60% of the Ballott not going to happen Same could be said for sf FG wont transfer to them .Berty is the Compromise Candidate FG will transfer to him to stop sf and sf wont be offended by Berty he worked with them on Good Friday .Connolly would need to finish ahead of one of the big three to hope to leapfrog others to the Park .Dont think FF have a more universal Candidate than Berty .

MY OPinion Berty if he runs wins it only challenge will be Connolly .

[watty]

Phoenix magazine reckon Bertie won't get nominated.
- Martin hates him
- Presidential elections can be brutal and FF are worried the tribunals will ruin him and remind people about the Haughey quote - "the most devious of them all".
- FF might go with a 'Government' candidate (i.e. the FG one) to save money and because they can't make a decision.

We seem to elect 'do-gooders' to the position in the past decade or two and 'the most devious of them all' mightn't be 'good' enough.

[John m]

Phoenix magazine reckon Bertie won't get nominated.
- Martin hates him
- Presidential elections can be brutal and FF are worried the tribunals will ruin him and remind people about the Haughey quote - "the most devious of them all".
- FF might go with a 'Government' candidate (i.e. the FG one) to save money and because they can't make a decision.

We seem to elect 'do-gooders' to the position in the past decade or two and 'the most devious of them all' mightn't be 'good' enough.

I posted that already If Berty dosent run Connolly will be Fav .FG cannot get 50% from 60% of the Vote 40% wont have FG ..So its up to Martin do they want a Marxist President .

[watty]

FF/FG might hold their nose and vote for a 'government' candidate.  All for the 'national good' of course!  They're more likely to vote for that candidate before the SF one?

[John m]

FF/FG might hold their nose and vote for a 'government' candidate.  All for the 'national good' of course!  They're more likely to vote for that candidate before the SF one?

Berty wont offend Shinners will get FG support to keep Mary Low out and the Marxist .I have explained Mary Low or The Farmer cannot get 50% out of 60% of the vote at least 40% will not vote Sf or FG .Its sort of impossible for either to win the Continuity Communist after Little Mickey is Connolly .So FF decision is going into the next general election do they want to have FG with the Taoiseachs office and the Farmer in the Park .FF cannot afford to put a sitting TD forward so the choices are limited .Martin hates Berty but Martin is a busted flush his own mother probably dosent like hin No Dublin Based TD has any time for him .

[watty]

I dunno.  It's not a normal election to pick a *politician* for the Dail.  We tend to act funny when voting for *Ireland*.  Look at the last 3 presidents*, and divorce, gay rights & abortion.  Secretly most parents would probably be horrified if their own kid turned out to be gay or had an abortion.  But when we vote for *Ireland*, we vote in ways than might not be our core beliefs.

So if you're an 'on-the-fence' FF/FG voter and it's a choice between the government candidate and SF, you might just go with McGuiness (for the national good).  She talks nice and dresses well.  She's European but also rural Ireland (married to a sheep farmer).  There's probably some GAA connection there as well.  She won't embarrass us on the world stage.  A SF president might go off script (like Michael D Higgins) and start moaning about political stuff like Gaza and other hot spots around the world (like Irish re-unification  )



* I know Michael D was an experienced politician but he's played the poet-bard-professor thing to perfection.

[Cool Boola]

Id go for Dick Turpin. A robber who wears a mask

[watty]

Might have to have a real election now?

Mairead McGuinness withdraws from presidential race

Fine Gael presidential candidate Mairead McGuinness has announced that she is withdrawing from the race.  In a statement released this afternoon, Ms McGuinness said the decision was not taken lightly, and followed a stay in hospital last week.

[silverbullet]

Might have to have a real election now?

Mairead McGuinness withdraws from presidential race

Fine Gael presidential candidate Mairead McGuinness has announced that she is withdrawing from the race.  In a statement released this afternoon, Ms McGuinness said the decision was not taken lightly, and followed a stay in hospital last week.

As I posted originally, Catherine Connolly for President.

[John m]

She done the Maths

[John m]

FG internal poll was the real reason she pulled out to save HER money as Candidates need to pony up .She was only on 11% .Like I said FG cannot win it .Neither can the Shinners .

[Bob Shillin]

FG internal poll was the real reason she pulled out to save HER money as Candidates need to pony up .She was only on 11% .Like I said FG cannot win it .Neither can the Shinners .

I don't think that most people lie about health issues.

[John m]

FG internal poll was the real reason she pulled out to save HER money as Candidates need to pony up .She was only on 11% .Like I said FG cannot win it .Neither can the Shinners .

I don't think that most people lie about health issues.

No but you can be sure if she was on 40% of the vote she would appear in a wheelchair attached to a drip with a crew of resuscitators .She knew she was a no hope I explained on here why .I told Gay Mitchell the exact same thing 14 years ago .FG cannot win it SF cannot win it .I recon FF might decide NOT to run a Candidate .Then Berty enters the Fray gets the Nomonation by getting enough FF leaning Councils .So like Sean Gallagher he runs as the Independent FF official unofficial candidate .Bet yu didnt read that anywhere eles in Irish Media .

[Bob Shillin]

You have to wonder about the deluded egos of Gareth Sheridan, Mc Gregor, and Flatley, is it possible that they have some other agenda, because they can't be that narcissistic to believe that they could be elected.