New-ish MG5s going cheap

[silverbullet]

https://www.carzone.ie/search?make=MG&model=5&size=20

[C5]

Na I'll pass for a Skoda superb estate instead with 1200km range.

[watty]

According to the internet, Ireland is 486km long and 275km wide.  And, according to me, I mostly do less than 150km per shift.  Just sayin' 

[mercenary for hire]

I was chatting to a former Superb driver last week.He seemed to think he was putting €150 a week in diesel in his one.That's an extra €130 a week compared to charging an electric at home.There was a time when €130 was a good days wages.

Without the taxi grants all those leccy cars would be gathering dust in the dealers.

[C5]

The thing is I can sell it on but the EV taxi is in the scrappers. And that guy is doing 1600 or 1700 Kms a week for that fuel cost or he is not servicing it enough. I'm getting 1200 from a tank full, time wise  I'll fill again in 5 minutes in a week or the guts of 2 weeks depending on where I am.

[mercenary for hire]

The diesel Superb is a thirsty beast.It's a big heavy, well insulated car.Plenty of lads driving them around town where they get poor economy.

As far as resale value is concerned many lads only need to get three years from a "cheap" EV to break even.If you're getting a 5k saving on juice by going electric it only needs to last a few years to pay for itself.

New superb is 47.5k and the secondhand ones are overpriced.Plus diesel means it's not a smart option unless you're working all over the country doing mad hours.

I don't think EVs are the answer but I also don't like working just to pay for a car either.I don't have the hunger like when I started.Cheaper the vehicle the less we have to work.

[C5]

2020 Skoda superb estate 2 litre 17000 with 209,000 km got it with full service history 1200 on a tank 1300 if driving under the posted speed limit. Evs in reality are not an economical smart choice the grants will end and its the drivers with the EV taxis that will suffer, they will be left with a paperweight I can sell on a diesel or a hybrid.

[Rat Catcher]

1200 on a tank is pretty impressive. I get 700-773 staying within the speed limit from my MKIII 1.6 Auto Octy. The 1.9 MKII is probably a bit better on juice but it's manual.

[watty]

In 2021, I had ~€12,000 cash with the intention of buying a 5yr old Prius.  Instead, the NTA paid ~60% of my MG5 and I basically owned it outright from day 1.  Over the next 10 years, my bills will be ~€200/yr on a service (for official battery health printout), ~€250 every 30,000 km for front tyres and, oh, I'll probably have to buy windscreen wipers at some point.  That should be it (touch wood).  The brake pads/discs seem to last forever on EV's.

[silverbullet]

The one thing you're guaranteed with a Skoda estate, no one's going to steal it. Get one in red and you're golden!

[C5]

200 euro is two services per year for me I do it myself, 45,000 km for tyres with rotation. And ev brakes need to be used a few times a week or they seize up when you need them in an emergency a layer of rust and stuff builds up on them with non use or light use.

[mercenary for hire]

If the grants disappear it will be due to EVs coming down in price.I've no problem. Going back to a hybrid if at some point in the future it becomes no longer viable to get a cheap electric car.

I didn't think the leccy car would be so cheap to run.Mine costs about 10/13 a week.If electric prices go up that will change.Still haven't been on a public charger in nearly 15 months of ownership.

Lately it's developed a knock in the steering which I'm going to get looked at this week.All under warranty.Probably something small needs tightening.

[Golfer14]

Problem with that skoda ye gona need a ball off cash under your pillow to keep it rite .Flywheels are not cheap .couple of grand to put rite .High mileage yokes quickly become a money pit ,

[Rat Catcher]

Mine hasn't been too bad.

Maintenance on the MKIII is coming in at 1.3c/kilo... as follows:

10/01/2019   108,947   Delivery Kilometres   0.00   
23/01/2019      Floor Mats   20.00   Halfords/Tesco
01/02/2019      Screenwash   3.00   Tesco
11/03/2019      Oil (for topup) & camera (probe)   45.00   Micks
28/03/2019   119,197   Brake Fluid replaced   12.00   Euro Car Parts
28/03/2019   119,197   FR PS Door Handle oiled (3 in 1)   3.00   Euro Car Parts
29/07/2019   129,302   Oil    28.00   Micks
29/07/2019   129,302   Oil Filter & Bung   11.00   Annesley Williams
29/07/2019   129,302   Fuel Filter   39.00   Annesley Williams
29/07/2019   129,302   Pollen Filter (Charcoal)   10.00   Euro Car Parts
29/07/2019   129,302   RR Brake Pads (2/3)   14.00   Euro Car Parts
02/08/2019      Screenwash   4.00   Tesco
29/10/2019      Puncture RR DS   10.00   Collin
29/10/2019      Key Batteries   5.00   Tesco
14/02/2020   150,010   Oil    27.00   Micks
14/02/2020   150,010   Oil Filter & Bung   14.00   Annesley Williams
14/02/2020   150,010   FR Brake Pads  (3/3)   28.00   carparts4less.co.uk
15/02/2020      Screenwash   5.00   Applegreen
17/02/2020   150,625   FR Tyre * 2 – 205/55/R16   130.00   Collin
28/03/2020      FR DS H7 Bulb   7.00   Applegreen
19/05/2020      RR Tyre * 2 – 205/55/R16   130.00   Collin
02/04/2021   159,956   Oil, Pollen Filter   42.00   Micks
02/04/2021   159,956   Oil Filter & Bung, Shelf Clip   16.00   Annesley Williams
02/04/2021   159,956   Brake Fluid   14.00   Euro Car Parts IR
31/07/2021      No.Plate Bulbs   3.00   SMF Balbriggan
25/11/2021      Key Battery   0.00   Stock
01/12/2021   170,754   RR Brake Pads (3 / 3)   26.00   Micks
01/01/2022      Screenwash   5.00   Applegreen
09/02/2022   180,012   Oil -  DPF = 44.50/80.00g   39.00   Micks
09/02/2022   180,012   Oil Filter & Bung   16.00   Annesley Williams
14/03/2022      Oil (for topup)   35.00   Micks
08/04/2022      Puncture FR PS   20.00   New Tyre Place
15/06/2022   190,115   FR Brake Pads & Discs   82.00   Micks
14/07/2022   192,105   Water Pump, Timing Belt Kit   330.00   Aidan (supply & fit)
01/01/2023      Screenwash   5.00   Applegreen
14/01/2023   200,035   Oil, Air Filter, Pollen Filter    61.00   Micks
14/01/2023   200,035   Oil Filter & Bung (DPF = 50.08/80.00g)   22.00   Annesley Williams
17/02/2023   202,506   FR Tyre * 2 – 205/55/R16   150.00   Collin
16/05/2023      Oil Filler Cap (Febi Bilstein 170554)   11.00   BMF
15/05/2023      Coolant (for topup)   15.00   Micks
27/07/2023   210,603   RR Brake Pads & Discs   44.00   carparts4less.co.uk
27/07/2023   210,603   Brake Fluid   21.00   ECP Santry
27/07/2023      H7 Bulb DS   5.00   BMF
27/01/2024   220,590   Oil, Oil Filter, Fuel Filter   57.00   Autodoc.ie
11/02/2024      FR DS Tyre & RR DS Puncture 75+15   90.00   Tyreland, Swords
01/04/2024      H7 Bulb PS   5.00   BMF
08/05/2024   230,268   FR Brake Pads  (2/3)   22.00   Autodoc.ie
26/08/2024   240,125   Oil, Oil Filter & Bung (DPF = 61.84/80.00g)   58.00   Halfords / BMF / AD
03/09/2024      Air Cooler Pump Lead   10.00   Ebay UK


The MKII in it's taxi years worked out at 2.1c/kilo.... as follows:

23/02/2014      HL Bulb ps   8.00      fr calliper = FSIII
22/07/2014      Bulb   2.00      fr pad lug above top = 1zf/1zm H=55
28/07/2014      Bulb   1.00      fr disc 1zf/1zm = 280mm
05/08/2014      Tyre   65.00      rr calliper = CI38
05/08/2014      Screen Wash   4.00      rr pad with wire spring = 1kd
19/10/2014   139,132   Oil, Oil Filter, Bung   60.00      rr pad = Mintex MDB137 (Micks)
09/11/2014   143,200   Brake Pads Rear   26.00   inc tool 16   rr disc = 253mm
18/11/2014   144,570   Brake Pads & Discs Front   60.00      ABS BLEED – Basic Setting → Group 10 → Go
19/11/2014      HL Bulb ds   5.00      
22/11/2014      HL Bulb ps   5.00      FUEL FILTER
27/11/2014      Battery, 2yr gt   90.00   Celtic motor factors   136h 78d 12innerdiam
17/12/2014   148,547   Timing belt kit,water pump   395.00   Annesley Williams   Mann PU 825 x
03/02/2015      Puncture   10.00      3C0 127 434 - 3C0 127 177
07/02/2015   150,494   Clutch, Flywheel, 6mnth gt   600.00   Euroclutch, Baldoyle   
16/02/2015      Wiper Blades 24” & 19”   20.00   Tesco   Front Shocks
10/07/2015   159,692   Oil, Oil Filter, Bung   62.00      Bottom diametre = 50mm
10/07/2015   159,692   Brake Pads & Discs Rear   69.00      
10/07/2015   159,692   Pollen Filter   15.00      Warning Light Coding
20/08/2015      HL Bulb ds   5.00      Block 17 -> Coding -> Digit 4
04/11/2015      Door Mirror Glass ps   15.00   Celtic   0 = No Systems Active
17/12/2015      Tyre * 2 Rear – NCT   120.00   Glen   +1 Brake Pad Wear
19/01/2016      HL Bulb ds   4.00   Celtic motor factors   +2 Seat Belt Warning
10/02/2016      Wiper Blades 24” & 19”   22.00   Tesco   +4 Washer Fluid Level
14/02/2016   180,098   Oil, Oil Filter, Bung   38.00      
14/02/2016   180,098   Air Filter, Fuel Filter   24.00      Parts Stock
14/02/2016   180,098   Brake Pads Front   15.00      Caliper Guide Kit rr
14/02/2016   180,098   Rotate Tyres   0.00      Caliper Service Kit rr
11/03/2016      Puncture   5.00   Glen   Brake bulb
16/08/2016      Bulb - brake PS   1.00      Park Light bulb
23/11/2016   195,860   Shocks Front   115.00   Celtic via Aiden   
23/11/2016   195,860   Springs, Strut Bearings,    0.00      
23/11/2016   195,860   Strut dust kits, PS Wishbone   201.00   Micks   
23/11/2016   195,860   Fit above   120.00   Aiden   
24/11/2016   196,059   Tracking   40.00   Collin   
24/11/2016   196,060   Brake Pad sensor disabled   0.00      
01/12/2016      HL Bulb ps   5.00   Ray   
09/01/2017   200,400   Oil, Pollen Filter   32.00   Micks   
09/01/2017   200,400   Oil Filter, Bung   10.00   Annesley Williams   
29/03/2017      Bulb - Park ps   1.00      
05/05/2017      Tyre Rear ps   60.00   Collin   
14/05/2017   205,047   Brake Pads Rear, inc clean fluid   21.00   Micks   
14/05/2017   205,047   Calliper Guide pin ps rear   12.00   Online   
13/06/2017      Wiper Blades 24” & 19”   25.00   Celtic   
01/07/2017      Bulb - Park ds   1.00      
01/07/2017      HL Bulb ds   5.00      Run Fuel Pump
15/09/2017   220,165   Oil Filter, Bung   13.00   Joe Duffy   
15/09/2017   220,165   Oil   26.00   Micks   
02/11/2017      Tail light bulb PS   2.00      
03/11/2017   227,550   Tyre * 2 - Front   120.00   Collin   
20/11/2017   230,257   FR brake pads   14.00   Micks   
20/11/2017   230,257   Brake pad senor enabled   0.00      
24/11/2017      Screenwash   4.00   Tesco   
10/01/2018      HL Bulb ds   5.00   Ray   
22/01/2018      Tyre RR DS   65.00   Collin   
26/01/2018      HL Bulb ps, Brake bulb ds   6.00   Ray   
02/02/2018   240,174   Oil, Pollen Filter   38.00   Micks   
02/02/2018   240,174   Oil Filter, Bung   10.00   Annesley Williams   
22/03/2018   245,580   RR Brake pads   20.00   Micks    
21/07/2018      Door Mirror Glass DS   30.00   Ray   
17/10/2018      Tyre RR PS   65.00   Collin   
23/10/2018   260,056   Oil, Oil Filter   34.00   Micks   
23/10/2018   260,056   Rotate Tyres   0.00      
24/01/2019      Hazard Light Switch   53.00   Annesley Williams   

and in it's post taxi years 1.9c/kilo.... as follows:

27/02/2019   270,114   Fuel Filter, Air Filter, Brake Fluid   37.00   BMF/Micks
27/02/2019   270,114   Tyres RR * 2   130.00   Collin
18/03/2019   272,000   RR Brake Pads, Discs & Calipers   206.00   carparts4less
23/03/2019   272,500   RR PS Brake hose    15.00   Micks
23/03/2019   272,500   RR PS Brake Pipe & clip   31.00   Annesley Williams
23/03/2019   272,500   Brake Fluid Replaced   0.00   inc in 18/3
16/05/2019      Wiper Blades 24” & 19”   10.00   Tesco
17/06/2019   280,555   Oil   35.00   Micks
17/06/2019   280,555   Oil Filter & Bung   11.00   Annesley Williams
29/06/2019      Bulb H7 PS   7.00   Applegreen
09/07/2019      Tyre FR PS   65.00   Collin
25/07/2019      Brake Light Bulb RR * 2   2.00   BMF
14/03/2020   300,866   Oil   26.50   Micks
14/03/2020   300,866   Oil Filter & Bung   14.00   Annesley Williams
21/03/2020   301,432   FR Brake Pads & Discs, Pollen Filter   74.00   Micks
23/03/2020      Tyre FR DS   65.00   Collin
19/08/2020   306,520   Timing Belt Kit, Water Pump,      
      Clutch Master Cylinder   400.00   Aiden (supply & fit)
28/10/2020   311,500   RR Brake pads 2/3   22.00   Micks
29/12/2020   315,221   Altenator   140.00   Euro Car Parts NI
02/04/2021   320,049   Oil   33.00   Micks
02/04/2021   320,049   Oil Filter & Bung   16.00   Annesley Williams
02/04/2021   320,049   Brake Fluid   14.00   Euro Car Parts IR
31/07/2021      No.Plate Bulbs   2.50   SMF Balbriggan
13/08/2021   330,119   Battery   104.00   EBC Cabra
08/01/2022   340,575   Oil, Pollen Filter   46.00   Micks
08/01/2022   340,575   Oil Filter & Bung   16.00   Annesley Williams
23/02/2022   344,226   H7 Bulb DS   5.00   BMF
28/02/2022      Exhaust Mount  supply & fit   45.00   Collin
23/06/2022   353,884   RR Brake pads 3/3   19.00   Micks
24/06/2022   354,013   CV Boot FR PS   25.00   Euro Car Parts IR
24/06/2022   354,013   FR Brake Pads (2/3)   20.00   Micks
30/06/2022      FR Indicator Bulbs (2), Reg Plate Bulb   5.00   BMF
08/10/2022   361,240   Oil, Oil Filter, Air Filter, Fuel Filter   68.00   Micks
30/05/2023   376,637   PS Wisbone, WB Bolts, PS Ball Joint,      
30/05/2023   376,637   Track Rod Ends (2)   128.00   Micks
30/05/2023   376,637   Bolts   34.00   Annesley Williams
30/05/2023   376,637   DS Ball Joint, DS Mirror Indicator   34.00   ECP Santry
31/05/2023   376,637   FR Tracking   50.00   Collin
06/06/2023      Interior Mats   25.00   ECP Santry
27/07/2023   379,716   Oil & Filter, Pollen Filter   53.00   carparts4less.co.uk
27/07/2023   379,716   Brake Fluid, Oil Pan Bung   22.00   ECP Santry
08/11/2023   384,650   FR DS Wheel Bearing, DS Ball Joint,      
      FR DS & PS Drop Links   77.00   AutoDoc.ie
27/11/2023   386,000   PS CV Joint    39.00   ECP Santry
?   ?   Tyre * 4 inc Tracking   300.00   Collin
22/05/2024   393,800   PS RR  Brake Hose, RR P21W4 bulbs,      ECP Santry
      Wiper Blades 24” & 19”   19.00   ECP Santry
22/05/2024   393,800   PS RR  Brake Pipe, Fittings &      
      Flaring Tool   58.00   IGE
22/05/2024   393,800   Bulbs * 2    2.00   Texaco

[Rat Catcher]

Having said that, the MKII - with only c.398,000 kilos on the clock is currently on the operating table with a gearbox issue. So far I've paid €120 for a once new gearbox from Traynors (delivered locally), €238.81 for a Clutch Kit (solid flywheel conversion), Clutch Slave Cylinder and Clutch Alignment Tool from Autodoc, €28 for a new Bottle Jack from Halfords and €8 for a Gearbox Drain Key (17mm Hex) from Swords Motor Factors. Factor in a few sundries - I could do with a new trolley jack and a new tub of grease at least - when I get around to doing the job and I doubt I'll get out for much less than a monkey.

That'd bring it's post taxi maintenance cost up to c.2.2c/kilo... slightly above it taxi maintenance cost.