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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2024, 12:35:31 pm »
There's another guy who tests the effectiveness of various cleaning products on a cut up DPF. Interestingly, he explains (in layman's terms) why one can of stuff can't possibly remove both soot and ash. In simple terms one requires an alkaline product and the other an acid. As a substance can't be both alkaline and acidic you new a two step process to effectively clean both! As far as I can make out all of the stuff readily available from motor factors cleans soot rather than ash.

I've also some done research on my increased ash accumulation figure. As far as I can ascertain it's definitely a calculated figure and it's seemingly programmed to expire the DPF within 320,000 kilos. However, it'll only reach that maximum if the regeneration process remains fully effective as it's based on the number of regeneration cycles carried out rather than directly on kilometreage. Hence extending regeneration intervals through cleaning soot ought to extend or at least maximise the overall life of the DPF. I'm a little annoyed with myself for forgetting to read the ash level at the c.220k oil change. If I had I might have noticed the deviation sooner given that it was as expected at c.180k... although I didn't actually notice it at the 240k reading as such, in fact only noticing it when this thread went this way! Anywaysanall, ifn there's a lesson to be learned it would seem to be measure and analyse your ash level at every oil change if not sooner!
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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2024, 01:09:09 pm »
If you clean the dpf and then reset it as a new dpf install that might change the numbers, I think I saw one of o Riley's vids were he did that and said car manufacturer are setting fault codes to start going on at around 125,000 miles that's over 200,000kms saying dpf full  needs replacing, he just cleans them and resets it as a new dpf the computer knows no better and he has had no come backs saying it's broken again. After all the dpf is  mainly metal I've seen the inside of them. So I'm thinking if you keep it will serviced and drive over 80kph a few times a day and clean out the dpf every 190,000 Kms I'm thinking it should be fine, because if I had no dpf trouble with the 2 Citroen C5s and my wife C4 grand picasso I'm thinking the Skoda will match them.

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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2024, 03:06:52 pm »
my sister gets a dpf full warning on her car every 6 months approx.
i pour loadsa dipetane in and i do about 4 laps of the M1 from the airport exit up to the julianstown exit holding the revs at 2000RPM. cleans the thing out and the warning message goes off.
keeps it good again for another 6 months. it's what i shudda been doing with my old avensis but i hadn't a fuckin clue what a dpf was back then and hadta put up with sporadic dpf limp mode scenarios out of the blue.

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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2024, 11:41:43 am »
Plenty of lads on here suffering from the limp mode Doc....I'd say!!

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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2024, 02:40:07 pm »
The problem with modernish VAGs is you get no warning lights. In my case it seems that it just keeps running the regen cycles and (programmatically) filling the DPF with Ash regardless of the fact that the regens don't seem to be proving effective - given that soot was at 33% 3 kilos after the last one. If you don't go looking for the numbers you'd never know... at least not until the fucker expires and it's probably too late to do anything about it.

There is a danger of setting the car on fire if you opt to reset the values to zero when it's full of soot.... so you'd want to be sure the soot level is below the maximum permitted to run a regen (might be 75% or 90%, not sure) or the extra fuel injections on the exhaust strokes could well turn your car to ash!

As far as I know the first generation VAG DPFs didn't employ automatic regeneration or exhaust stroke diesel injection during manual regens so there was no fire risk. However, you did get a light on them when they wanted clearing with the owners manual specifying an Italian tune up.
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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2024, 01:15:45 pm »
To embark on yet another tangent I discovered another VAG oddity this morning. As I intend replacing the clutch and gearbox in the MKII Octavia tomorrow I had the manual out to jot down the various torque settings and such like when I came across the gearbox oil filling procedure. I'm guessing any DIY mechanic would assume you use the filler/level plug to fill the oil and set the level as we have done on most motor cars for many many years. In fact, I watched two Youtube videos which used that method, both produced by professional mechanics. However, that seemingly logical assumption couldn't be wronger.

The correct procedure is to fully drain the oil by removing both the drain plug and a bearing shaft and to fill with the specified quantity through the reverse light switch bore. The bottom of the "filler/level" plug is in fact below the oil level required. While you are not supposed to replace the oil unless the box has been (partially) dissembled I know most DIYers can't help themselves and do it periodically regardless. I did ask Stuart to change the oil in the MKII box when he done the clutch and he, somewhat reluctantly, agreed while stressing that it isn't necessary. Now I'm wondering if he followed the correct procedure or just filled to the level of the plug like the men in the videos I watched. Maybe that's why the box has failed but I guess it lasted a further 250,000 kilos so I can't really complain.

I appreciate how illogical this might seem so I've taken a few screenshots from the manual, as follows:









I'm guessing similar applies to other models not mentioned in the above manual so I'd strongly suggest any DIYers download and consult the relevant workshop manual and consult it as appropriate. I think I paid c€20 for each of the manuals I've downloaded - one for the MKII and one for the MKII. As far as I recall, I relied on a Haynes manual for the MKI.

Of course, anyone who wants an Octavia MKII and/or MKIII manual is welcome to a copy of mine.
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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2024, 01:52:51 pm »
Just another aside. I bought a wonderful new trolley jack from Irish Garage Equipment for a mere €49, as below. Much sturdier than it appears in the pictures which seem to be the 2.0 ton version and my 30 year old Argos one! I also treated myself to a new torque wrench which cost €25 but brought my order above the required €50 for free delivery. Ordered Monday, received Wednesday... can't wait to play with it now!

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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2024, 03:17:24 pm »
Just another aside. I bought a wonderful new trolley jack from Irish Garage Equipment for a mere €49, as below. Much sturdier than it appears in the pictures which seem to be the 2.0 ton version and my 30 year old Argos one! I also treated myself to a new torque wrench which cost €25 but brought my order above the required €50 for free delivery. Ordered Monday, received Wednesday... can't wait to play with it now!

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Mmm, yes I bought a trolley jack myself, and have used it once for a puncture, so much handier than the littles scissors ones that come with the cars.
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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2024, 06:20:24 pm »
Mine hasn't been too bad.

Maintenance on the MKIII is coming in at 1.3c/kilo... as follows:

10/01/2019   108,947   Delivery Kilometres   0.00   
23/01/2019      Floor Mats   20.00   Halfords/Tesco
01/02/2019      Screenwash   3.00   Tesco
11/03/2019      Oil (for topup) & camera (probe)   45.00   Micks
28/03/2019   119,197   Brake Fluid replaced   12.00   Euro Car Parts
28/03/2019   119,197   FR PS Door Handle oiled (3 in 1)   3.00   Euro Car Parts
29/07/2019   129,302   Oil    28.00   Micks
29/07/2019   129,302   Oil Filter & Bung   11.00   Annesley Williams
29/07/2019   129,302   Fuel Filter   39.00   Annesley Williams
29/07/2019   129,302   Pollen Filter (Charcoal)   10.00   Euro Car Parts
29/07/2019   129,302   RR Brake Pads (2/3)   14.00   Euro Car Parts
02/08/2019      Screenwash   4.00   Tesco
29/10/2019      Puncture RR DS   10.00   Collin
29/10/2019      Key Batteries   5.00   Tesco
14/02/2020   150,010   Oil    27.00   Micks
14/02/2020   150,010   Oil Filter & Bung   14.00   Annesley Williams
14/02/2020   150,010   FR Brake Pads  (3/3)   28.00   carparts4less.co.uk
15/02/2020      Screenwash   5.00   Applegreen
17/02/2020   150,625   FR Tyre * 2 – 205/55/R16   130.00   Collin
28/03/2020      FR DS H7 Bulb   7.00   Applegreen
19/05/2020      RR Tyre * 2 – 205/55/R16   130.00   Collin
02/04/2021   159,956   Oil, Pollen Filter   42.00   Micks
02/04/2021   159,956   Oil Filter & Bung, Shelf Clip   16.00   Annesley Williams
02/04/2021   159,956   Brake Fluid   14.00   Euro Car Parts IR
31/07/2021      No.Plate Bulbs   3.00   SMF Balbriggan
25/11/2021      Key Battery   0.00   Stock
01/12/2021   170,754   RR Brake Pads (3 / 3)   26.00   Micks
01/01/2022      Screenwash   5.00   Applegreen
09/02/2022   180,012   Oil -  DPF = 44.50/80.00g   39.00   Micks
09/02/2022   180,012   Oil Filter & Bung   16.00   Annesley Williams
14/03/2022      Oil (for topup)   35.00   Micks
08/04/2022      Puncture FR PS   20.00   New Tyre Place
15/06/2022   190,115   FR Brake Pads & Discs   82.00   Micks
14/07/2022   192,105   Water Pump, Timing Belt Kit   330.00   Aidan (supply & fit)
01/01/2023      Screenwash   5.00   Applegreen
14/01/2023   200,035   Oil, Air Filter, Pollen Filter    61.00   Micks
14/01/2023   200,035   Oil Filter & Bung (DPF = 50.08/80.00g)   22.00   Annesley Williams
17/02/2023   202,506   FR Tyre * 2 – 205/55/R16   150.00   Collin
16/05/2023      Oil Filler Cap (Febi Bilstein 170554)   11.00   BMF
15/05/2023      Coolant (for topup)   15.00   Micks
27/07/2023   210,603   RR Brake Pads & Discs   44.00   carparts4less.co.uk
27/07/2023   210,603   Brake Fluid   21.00   ECP Santry
27/07/2023      H7 Bulb DS   5.00   BMF
27/01/2024   220,590   Oil, Oil Filter, Fuel Filter   57.00   Autodoc.ie
11/02/2024      FR DS Tyre & RR DS Puncture 75+15   90.00   Tyreland, Swords
01/04/2024      H7 Bulb PS   5.00   BMF
08/05/2024   230,268   FR Brake Pads  (2/3)   22.00   Autodoc.ie
26/08/2024   240,125   Oil, Oil Filter & Bung (DPF = 61.84/80.00g)   58.00   Halfords / BMF / AD
03/09/2024      Air Cooler Pump Lead   10.00   Ebay UK


The MKII in it's taxi years worked out at 2.1c/kilo.... as follows:

23/02/2014      HL Bulb ps   8.00      fr calliper = FSIII
22/07/2014      Bulb   2.00      fr pad lug above top = 1zf/1zm H=55
28/07/2014      Bulb   1.00      fr disc 1zf/1zm = 280mm
05/08/2014      Tyre   65.00      rr calliper = CI38
05/08/2014      Screen Wash   4.00      rr pad with wire spring = 1kd
19/10/2014   139,132   Oil, Oil Filter, Bung   60.00      rr pad = Mintex MDB137 (Micks)
09/11/2014   143,200   Brake Pads Rear   26.00   inc tool 16   rr disc = 253mm
18/11/2014   144,570   Brake Pads & Discs Front   60.00      ABS BLEED – Basic Setting → Group 10 → Go
19/11/2014      HL Bulb ds   5.00      
22/11/2014      HL Bulb ps   5.00      FUEL FILTER
27/11/2014      Battery, 2yr gt   90.00   Celtic motor factors   136h 78d 12innerdiam
17/12/2014   148,547   Timing belt kit,water pump   395.00   Annesley Williams   Mann PU 825 x
03/02/2015      Puncture   10.00      3C0 127 434 - 3C0 127 177
07/02/2015   150,494   Clutch, Flywheel, 6mnth gt   600.00   Euroclutch, Baldoyle   
16/02/2015      Wiper Blades 24” & 19”   20.00   Tesco   Front Shocks
10/07/2015   159,692   Oil, Oil Filter, Bung   62.00      Bottom diametre = 50mm
10/07/2015   159,692   Brake Pads & Discs Rear   69.00      
10/07/2015   159,692   Pollen Filter   15.00      Warning Light Coding
20/08/2015      HL Bulb ds   5.00      Block 17 -> Coding -> Digit 4
04/11/2015      Door Mirror Glass ps   15.00   Celtic   0 = No Systems Active
17/12/2015      Tyre * 2 Rear – NCT   120.00   Glen   +1 Brake Pad Wear
19/01/2016      HL Bulb ds   4.00   Celtic motor factors   +2 Seat Belt Warning
10/02/2016      Wiper Blades 24” & 19”   22.00   Tesco   +4 Washer Fluid Level
14/02/2016   180,098   Oil, Oil Filter, Bung   38.00      
14/02/2016   180,098   Air Filter, Fuel Filter   24.00      Parts Stock
14/02/2016   180,098   Brake Pads Front   15.00      Caliper Guide Kit rr
14/02/2016   180,098   Rotate Tyres   0.00      Caliper Service Kit rr
11/03/2016      Puncture   5.00   Glen   Brake bulb
16/08/2016      Bulb - brake PS   1.00      Park Light bulb
23/11/2016   195,860   Shocks Front   115.00   Celtic via Aiden   
23/11/2016   195,860   Springs, Strut Bearings,    0.00      
23/11/2016   195,860   Strut dust kits, PS Wishbone   201.00   Micks   
23/11/2016   195,860   Fit above   120.00   Aiden   
24/11/2016   196,059   Tracking   40.00   Collin   
24/11/2016   196,060   Brake Pad sensor disabled   0.00      
01/12/2016      HL Bulb ps   5.00   Ray   
09/01/2017   200,400   Oil, Pollen Filter   32.00   Micks   
09/01/2017   200,400   Oil Filter, Bung   10.00   Annesley Williams   
29/03/2017      Bulb - Park ps   1.00      
05/05/2017      Tyre Rear ps   60.00   Collin   
14/05/2017   205,047   Brake Pads Rear, inc clean fluid   21.00   Micks   
14/05/2017   205,047   Calliper Guide pin ps rear   12.00   Online   
13/06/2017      Wiper Blades 24” & 19”   25.00   Celtic   
01/07/2017      Bulb - Park ds   1.00      
01/07/2017      HL Bulb ds   5.00      Run Fuel Pump
15/09/2017   220,165   Oil Filter, Bung   13.00   Joe Duffy   
15/09/2017   220,165   Oil   26.00   Micks   
02/11/2017      Tail light bulb PS   2.00      
03/11/2017   227,550   Tyre * 2 - Front   120.00   Collin   
20/11/2017   230,257   FR brake pads   14.00   Micks   
20/11/2017   230,257   Brake pad senor enabled   0.00      
24/11/2017      Screenwash   4.00   Tesco   
10/01/2018      HL Bulb ds   5.00   Ray   
22/01/2018      Tyre RR DS   65.00   Collin   
26/01/2018      HL Bulb ps, Brake bulb ds   6.00   Ray   
02/02/2018   240,174   Oil, Pollen Filter   38.00   Micks   
02/02/2018   240,174   Oil Filter, Bung   10.00   Annesley Williams   
22/03/2018   245,580   RR Brake pads   20.00   Micks    
21/07/2018      Door Mirror Glass DS   30.00   Ray   
17/10/2018      Tyre RR PS   65.00   Collin   
23/10/2018   260,056   Oil, Oil Filter   34.00   Micks   
23/10/2018   260,056   Rotate Tyres   0.00      
24/01/2019      Hazard Light Switch   53.00   Annesley Williams   

and in it's post taxi years 1.9c/kilo.... as follows:

27/02/2019   270,114   Fuel Filter, Air Filter, Brake Fluid   37.00   BMF/Micks
27/02/2019   270,114   Tyres RR * 2   130.00   Collin
18/03/2019   272,000   RR Brake Pads, Discs & Calipers   206.00   carparts4less
23/03/2019   272,500   RR PS Brake hose    15.00   Micks
23/03/2019   272,500   RR PS Brake Pipe & clip   31.00   Annesley Williams
23/03/2019   272,500   Brake Fluid Replaced   0.00   inc in 18/3
16/05/2019      Wiper Blades 24” & 19”   10.00   Tesco
17/06/2019   280,555   Oil   35.00   Micks
17/06/2019   280,555   Oil Filter & Bung   11.00   Annesley Williams
29/06/2019      Bulb H7 PS   7.00   Applegreen
09/07/2019      Tyre FR PS   65.00   Collin
25/07/2019      Brake Light Bulb RR * 2   2.00   BMF
14/03/2020   300,866   Oil   26.50   Micks
14/03/2020   300,866   Oil Filter & Bung   14.00   Annesley Williams
21/03/2020   301,432   FR Brake Pads & Discs, Pollen Filter   74.00   Micks
23/03/2020      Tyre FR DS   65.00   Collin
19/08/2020   306,520   Timing Belt Kit, Water Pump,      
      Clutch Master Cylinder   400.00   Aiden (supply & fit)
28/10/2020   311,500   RR Brake pads 2/3   22.00   Micks
29/12/2020   315,221   Altenator   140.00   Euro Car Parts NI
02/04/2021   320,049   Oil   33.00   Micks
02/04/2021   320,049   Oil Filter & Bung   16.00   Annesley Williams
02/04/2021   320,049   Brake Fluid   14.00   Euro Car Parts IR
31/07/2021      No.Plate Bulbs   2.50   SMF Balbriggan
13/08/2021   330,119   Battery   104.00   EBC Cabra
08/01/2022   340,575   Oil, Pollen Filter   46.00   Micks
08/01/2022   340,575   Oil Filter & Bung   16.00   Annesley Williams
23/02/2022   344,226   H7 Bulb DS   5.00   BMF
28/02/2022      Exhaust Mount  supply & fit   45.00   Collin
23/06/2022   353,884   RR Brake pads 3/3   19.00   Micks
24/06/2022   354,013   CV Boot FR PS   25.00   Euro Car Parts IR
24/06/2022   354,013   FR Brake Pads (2/3)   20.00   Micks
30/06/2022      FR Indicator Bulbs (2), Reg Plate Bulb   5.00   BMF
08/10/2022   361,240   Oil, Oil Filter, Air Filter, Fuel Filter   68.00   Micks
30/05/2023   376,637   PS Wisbone, WB Bolts, PS Ball Joint,      
30/05/2023   376,637   Track Rod Ends (2)   128.00   Micks
30/05/2023   376,637   Bolts   34.00   Annesley Williams
30/05/2023   376,637   DS Ball Joint, DS Mirror Indicator   34.00   ECP Santry
31/05/2023   376,637   FR Tracking   50.00   Collin
06/06/2023      Interior Mats   25.00   ECP Santry
27/07/2023   379,716   Oil & Filter, Pollen Filter   53.00   carparts4less.co.uk
27/07/2023   379,716   Brake Fluid, Oil Pan Bung   22.00   ECP Santry
08/11/2023   384,650   FR DS Wheel Bearing, DS Ball Joint,      
      FR DS & PS Drop Links   77.00   AutoDoc.ie
27/11/2023   386,000   PS CV Joint    39.00   ECP Santry
?   ?   Tyre * 4 inc Tracking   300.00   Collin
22/05/2024   393,800   PS RR  Brake Hose, RR P21W4 bulbs,      ECP Santry
      Wiper Blades 24” & 19”   19.00   ECP Santry
22/05/2024   393,800   PS RR  Brake Pipe, Fittings &      
      Flaring Tool   58.00   IGE
22/05/2024   393,800   Bulbs * 2    2.00   Texaco
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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2024, 06:56:35 pm »
I read every word, it will be a good comparison to mine when It gets to the total Kms on each maintenance job.

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« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2024, 07:14:18 pm »
I read every word, it will be a good comparison to mine when It gets to the total Kms on each maintenance job.
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« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2024, 01:35:58 pm »
Mmm, yes I bought a trolley jack myself, and have used it once for a puncture, so much handier than the littles scissors ones that come with the cars.

I have an array of jacks now! The new 2.5 ton trolley is probably too heavy to carry in the car. The old trolley is lighter but old.

The one I bought to hold the engine in place while the gearbox was out of the MKII Octy - twice, in fact, for an hour or two each time as I put the old box back in so it didn't have to stay balanced on axle stands and a jack while waiting for parts from Poland and me to have a free day to fit them - is a 4 ton Bottle jack from Halfords (c.€27). That's probably ideal to keep in the car as it's relatively light, in fact feels rather flimsy for it's 4 ton rating but done the job I wanted it to do and would certainly be up to jacking a car to change a wheel. A timber block with a grove cut to put between it and the jacking point of the sill would probably be a useful addition if your in car jack is designed to engage with the sill as VAGs are. I know there are other flat type jacking points that wouldn't require or benefit from such a block.
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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2024, 01:40:16 pm »
Plenty of lads on here suffering from the limp mode Doc....I'd say!!
You mention limp mode, RC starts waffling about VAG's. Sheesh!

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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2024, 01:55:15 pm »
Am I the only one that didn't read that? 8)

Still, you couldn't resist copying andd pasting it... musta been a slow news day!

The headline figures are probably most useful from a cost-accounting perspective. It's interesting that the MKIII maintenance costs are running at 1.3c/kilo over a taxi life of c.130,000 whereas the MKII worked out at 2.1c over a similar kilometreage during it's taxi life. One would expect an automatic (as is the MKIII) with a DPF to cost more to run than a manual car without a DPF (as is the MKII). However, neither the DPF nor the clutch in the MKIII have been changed yet. I guess it makes sense that a dual clutch (as in VAG DSGs) ought to last twice as long as a single clutch as in the manual. As one clutch in the DSG works on odd gears and the other on even gears it stands to reason that they're each doing half the work. I suspect they'll cost twice what the MKII clutch cost when they do pack in which, along with a DPF, would bring the cost per kilo at least up to the MKII cost/kilo.

The other interesting point is the slightly lower cost per kilo in the MKIIs post-taxi life over very similar kilometreage. One would expect maintenance costs to increase as a car gets older but that hasn't happened although some things might have been done in a cheaper way e.g. not using a main dealer for the timing bellt, shopping around for the cheapest parts, etc.

Not really things I had bothered analysing until treating my otherwise unpublished maintenance record like you generally treat the widely published internet i.e. copying and pasting it to our forum. Despite being the kind of data cost accountants would spend hours analysing in a real business they're actually unavoidable costs with little scope for control in our one man band environs,
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: New-ish MG5s going cheap
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2024, 01:59:09 pm »
Am I the only one that didn't read that? 8)

Still, you couldn't resist copying andd pasting it... musta been a slow news day!

The headline figures are probably most useful from a cost-accounting perspective. It's interesting that the MKIII maintenance costs are running at 1.3c/kilo over a taxi life of c.130,000 whereas the MKII worked out at 2.1c over a similar kilometreage during it's taxi life. One would expect an automatic (as is the MKIII) with a DPF to cost more to run than a manual car without a DPF (as is the MKII). However, neither the DPF nor the clutch in the MKIII have been changed yet. I guess it makes sense that a dual clutch (as in VAG DSGs) ought to last twice as long as a single clutch as in the manual. As one clutch in the DSG works on odd gears and the other on even gears it stands to reason that they're each doing half the work. I suspect they'll cost twice what the MKII clutch cost when they do pack in which, along with a DPF, would bring the cost per kilo at least up to the MKII cost/kilo.

The other interesting point is the slightly lower cost per kilo in the MKIIs post-taxi life over very similar kilometreage. One would expect maintenance costs to increase as a car gets older but that hasn't happened although some things might have been done in a cheaper way e.g. not using a main dealer for the timing bellt, shopping around for the cheapest parts, etc.

Not really things I had bothered analysing until treating my otherwise unpublished maintenance record like you generally treat the widely published internet i.e. copying and pasting it to our forum. Despite being the kind of data cost accountants would spend hours analysing in a real business they're actually unavoidable costs with little scope for control in our one man band environs,
Still, you couldn't resist copying andd pasting it... musta been a slow news day!

I didn't.
I scrolled to the end to post a comment. Any time.

 


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