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Offline Dr. Martin Gooter Bling

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Re: STOLEN MOTOR
« Reply #195 on: September 08, 2025, 02:45:01 am »
is it possible there's nuttin wrong with the car and maybe his home charging setup is riddled.

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« Reply #196 on: September 08, 2025, 08:30:12 am »
Unfortunately DMG he's tried other chargers and it's not working on those also.Even when the dealer had it they couldn't immediately diagnose it without calling in expertise from another part of the company.


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Re: STOLEN MOTOR
« Reply #197 on: September 08, 2025, 10:24:04 am »
NCT this morning ?
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Re: STOLEN MOTOR
« Reply #198 on: September 08, 2025, 12:06:27 pm »
Does the NCTS inspection include checking the AC charging system?
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: STOLEN MOTOR
« Reply #199 on: September 08, 2025, 12:11:52 pm »
Does the NCTS inspection include checking the AC charging system?

No they dont check the fuel flap on your OKkie ?
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Re: STOLEN MOTOR
« Reply #200 on: September 08, 2025, 12:19:37 pm »
Does the NCTS inspection include checking the AC charging system?

On a recent NCT with one of my heeps they checked the drawbar light socket as they plugged in a trailer lightboard to ensure the electrical components were working.

Passed BTW.

Yes John they do check the fuel filler door & cap iirc

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Re: STOLEN MOTOR
« Reply #201 on: September 08, 2025, 12:42:08 pm »
Does the NCTS inspection include checking the AC charging system?

No they dont check the fuel flap on your OKkie ?
Not sure whether you're saying yes or no there or asking or telling me that they don't check diesel fuel flaps. As Panel suggested, they probably do but it's never been an issue for me. I keep my fuel flaps in pristine condition.

If they don't check the AC charging system it shouldn't be an issue for Hal. The manual is published online so he could verify that in advance, I guess.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: STOLEN MOTOR
« Reply #202 on: September 08, 2025, 12:45:32 pm »
They might open the cover and check for damage but I doubt they'd be failing on something like this unless it showed warning lights somewhere.


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Re: STOLEN MOTOR
« Reply #203 on: September 08, 2025, 12:52:53 pm »
Indeed. It's hardly a roadworthiness issue unless, as you suggest, there's obvious physical damage to HV wiring/fittings. I'd say she'll fly/sail [delete in accordance with colloquial preference] through.
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« Reply #204 on: September 08, 2025, 01:27:36 pm »
Yes Panel it's covered under warranty but it took them six weeks to get him in for diagnostics and now they're waiting on the parts which could be another six weeks.

I've said it before there's no point having a warranty if it takes them months to resolve the issue.I assume it's cost him a good few quid extra on electricity too with the public charging.



I guess the warranty gives some assurance / insurance where potentially expensive repairs might arise. An EV battery, for example, would make Ken's DPF expenses look like small change and then there's all the control modules that run into thousands of euros each.

I've read a few reports on different makes on tinternet of late. It seems that no manufacturers/dealers are particularly efficient when battery problems arise. Obviously it's new technology and there's way OTT safety protocols such as requiring two adequately qualified technicians to work in a dedicated exclusion zone to tackle anything HV related. The actual process of dropping a battery out is a piece of piss once you have a ramp and hydraulic table. Main dealers don't seem to go beyond changing the entire battery unit which out of warranty will never be cost effective but I have seen videos from enthusiasts showing individual modules being replaced. The 10-20 (depending on manufacturer) modules typically each contain 12-24 cells depending on manufacturer but replacing individual cells isn't possible or viable as the modules all seem to be hermetically sealed. There is one YouTube video showing a bloke tearing an ID4 module apart which is quite interesting, the cells in that are pouches rather than cans.

I'm not sure if/when EV battery demand will ever reach a level as might attract independent specialists to rebuild them but until/unless that happens EVs are essentially fucked once a battery cell/module/internal control unit/etc dies.

Bearing all that in mind the fact that MG restrict their battery warranty to 3 years or 100,000 kilos for taxis is a big minus compared with VWs 8 year / 160,000 kilo battery warranty. However, one interesting comparison between those two brands (subject to verification) suggests that an MG HV battery weighs c.125Kg compared to the VW one weighing c.500Kg. Obviously that has implications for both fuel consumption and the potential for DIY repairs when the warranty expires.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2025, 01:33:27 pm by Rat Catcher »
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Re: STOLEN MOTOR
« Reply #205 on: September 08, 2025, 02:00:56 pm »
The more I hear of problems in EVs --the more I think Ill stay with ICE --too old to bring more hassle into my life there is so little of it left --per the stats !

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« Reply #206 on: September 08, 2025, 02:01:51 pm »
^^^^They're big bills alright RC and I'll likely never be paying one.If my heap need something like that out of warranty and I couldn't find reasonably priced parts I'd just scrap the car.I wouldn't want a car that needed that much money pumped into it every few year only to be waiting on the next big failure.I've never spent more than a few hundred on repairs on any vehicle.

My trust in the vehicle would be gone And it would bother me to keep it.It actually bothers me that Hals is fecked as it's very likey to happen to mine the longer I keep it.Plus the time I hit Hal's mileage mine would be likely be out of warranty
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Re: STOLEN MOTOR
« Reply #207 on: September 08, 2025, 02:12:51 pm »
I'm kinda thinking that way myself, Punter... but bear in mind my OCD can make me look for problems that don't exist. I guess one of the reasons nobody is investing in EV repair infrastructure (be it main dealers or independent specialists) is that they don't fail often enough to justify the same. Conversely, there are many horror stories from all brands (notably from the US) on the internet. Blokes waiting months (even for VW) to get their motor on an EV ramp isn't unusual... obviously not a big deal for a private car that's replaced with a fossil fuel rental while waiting but I haven't heard any evidence of dealers prioritising PSVs which could be subject to grant aid clawback in such circumstances.

I'd say a man of your technical ability could readily repair an EV battery, MfH. No different to the Prius really, just bigger and heavier.
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Re: STOLEN MOTOR
« Reply #208 on: September 08, 2025, 02:22:56 pm »
Now that I think of it, when the erm and I visited the Toyota dealership in Liffey Valley I was quite impressed with their workshop facilities, complete with NCTS style viewing windows and free coffee... but I don't recall seeing any dedicated EV service/repair bay(s). They may well exist but I'll be looking a bit closer if grant aid puts me back in the market next year. I'd also be inclined to ask other dealers if they have such facilities available to display.
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Re: STOLEN MOTOR
« Reply #209 on: September 08, 2025, 06:42:39 pm »
A Niece of mine is married to an EV hot shot in a main dealer and he evens says majority of main dealers with his marque have SFA knowledge of workings of EV --he travels from one dealer to another to sort out minor enough problems but major issues on warranty they don't touch and await HQ to play chicken with Punter whether to twist or fold on the costs ---he drives an ICE as do all his kin !!   

 


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