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Re: Hold strong Rc
« Reply #75 on: July 31, 2025, 10:09:28 am »
Not sure but I've made my bed either way.

I guess there's still an outside chance of a reprieve for 2016 cars... Punter reported that it was mentioned in a TAC meeting. Probably a long shot but I would be properly pissed off if such an extension materialised after I'd bought an EV nua and scrapped a 2016 reg in showroom condition. Conversely, I don't think I'll be overly annoyed if I end up having to settle for a second hand diesel or hybrid.
I have often stated the criteria to get the 20K EV NTA grant, and it has always in my thinking being;
1; Have an old car ready fer the scrappage grant.
2; Have a home driveway available to secure a home charger.
3; Have a spouse with an ICE car fer emergencies.

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Re: Hold strong Rc
« Reply #76 on: July 31, 2025, 11:03:10 am »
@ MfH - just to confirm (my dodgy memory).  You're BYD? 

And it looks like MSL gets to join the naughty list of garages that don't care too much about aftersales.  And like you said, we'll tell all our passengers...  I think I remember someone did a study and on average, you tell 7 people about a bad experience and only 1 or 2 about a good experience.  So the garages are shooting themselves in the foot re future sales.

Seems to be a theme emerging.  EV's are lovely to drive but built to a price so durability is an issue.  And the garages don't give a fukk once they have your money. 

Be interesting to see what the Toyota XYZ is like after a year or two of taxi service?  Will it be the replacement Carina/Avensis?
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Re: Hold strong Rc
« Reply #77 on: July 31, 2025, 11:30:50 am »
Yes Watty I've got the BYD.I've never had a car that gets so many compliments but it's not made of the materials for continuous use like the Toyota.If Toyota aftersales is better it's probably only because the cars are better quality and rarely go back to the workshop.

I'm seeing alot of BZ4X as taxis now that the prices are more reasonable.If I got one I wouldn't be sticking to their stringent service intervals but I'm cheap like that and I can usually do my own work.

About the BZ4X being the new Carina/Camry I think there are too many drivers who can't charge at home.The Corrolla and for the wealthy like Bob S. the Camry will be the car of choice for those who need to put big hours in.
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Re: Hold strong Rc
« Reply #78 on: July 31, 2025, 12:36:13 pm »
When you went through MD the time limit was 3 months not 2 as it is now, erm. Also there was plenty of money available so you could run out of time and apply again so time wasn't an issue. Anywaysanall, on your advice, I rang NTA before ringing the decider in terms of car availability again yesterday to re-clarify what I had already clarified. I'll update that in the relevant thread in due course.

If I had read your post yesterday, Wingnut, I think I would have said fuck it you're right and just bought the BZ4X when the ID4 Pro wasn't available. As I said for me it was a very close second and definitely would have come ahead of an ID4 Pro Plus. I should've been a bit more diligent in test driving it like taking the time to adjust the seat and such like. I think there might have been a subconscious leaning towards the ID4 because I've driven Skodas since 2004. In fact, a lot of drivers who know what they're talking about (and Octy!) have come down in favour of the Toyota so that's something I'll definitely take on board should I get a grant offer next year.

I would reiterate Mercs advice on haggling... you mightn't get anywhere where stock is in short supply but it won't add anything on to the price. In fact the last Saturday that I worked late my second last job was a car full of salemen from a main dealer. The lads in the back were discussing targets and bonuses and such like which prompted the slightly older - but still very young - man in the front to tell me that the best time to buy a car is in the last few days of a month as it's likely that one or more of the salesmen will need the sale to achieve his target so if there's a deal to be done that's when you'll get the best of it.

I haven't changed a gearbox in a serving taxi since I had the 1994 Astra, Octy. I changed the box in Gretta (our new name for the MKII since she failed the National Car Test on emissions for the first time in her life this year) recently and thoroughly enjoyed it. There was no rush as the younger not so young lad's Yaris hybrid was available at the time so I ordered her a brand new clutch from Poland and stretched what was actually a few hours spannering into a project spanning a couple of weeks. I did need to employ the brawn of the older not so young lad for an hour or so to lift the once new box in. Typical of not so young lads these days he wouldn't class himself as a practical man but managed to fane interest in my explaining how a clutch works. Anywaysanall, the MKIII box (being a DSG) is twice the weight of Gretta's cute little gearbox so would probably be beyond my DIY capabilities. In that respect the lunacy of Govt regulations is potentially doing me a favour in requiring Gretta to keep smoking up the ozone layer in favour of scrapping the EURO VI MKIII. Gretta has no expensive DPF and a cute little manual gearbox that can be changed for less than the price of an EV tyre whereas the MKIII could get a lot more expensive to maintain with age. Interestingly, 12,000 kilos later, Gretta's new solid flywheel clutch conversion is still light as a feather. Any time I've had a dual mass flywheel replaced the pedal has gone heavy within a few hundred kilos. I looked it up on the VAG interactive manual thing I had a pirate copy of years ago and the solution was advise customer that it's normal.
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Re: Hold strong Rc
« Reply #79 on: July 31, 2025, 12:56:11 pm »
On the subject of Toyota servicing I don't think I mentioned the wonderful workshop in the Toyota garage we visited on Tuesday. One can sip a complimentary coffee while viewing tens of cars being meticulously (and probably needlessly) serviced through the viewing window, a bit like some of the NCTS centres. It was most enjoyable watching skilled mechanics in an almost clinical environment teaching the apprentices how to drop a spanner from a height without damaging it.
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Re: Hold strong Rc
« Reply #80 on: July 31, 2025, 01:58:16 pm »
On the subject of Toyota servicing I don't think I mentioned the wonderful workshop in the Toyota garage we visited on Tuesday. One can sip a complimentary coffee while viewing tens of cars being meticulously (and probably needlessly) serviced through the viewing window, a bit like some of the NCTS centres. It was most enjoyable watching skilled mechanics in an almost clinical environment teaching the apprentices how to drop a spanner from a height without damaging it.

"In fact, a lot of drivers who know what they're talking about (and Octy!)"

Wats that supposed to mean ya bollixes  >:(

Ive changed more gearboxes than yu ya bollixes ....
Anyway I dont want to know antin anymore or crawl under  shite boxes .... fillin the window washer bottle is all ill do ...
Anyway ya sldid ask all the " experts " on here an i told ya go Toyota... an i gave ya very good reasons ... yur not gettin any yunger ... time is precious ...plus yu will get 10 yers out of a Toyota most likely wit very little goin wrong ... that few extra bob ya pay mute be a great investment in peace of mind plus less time off the road plus more time walkin the beach wit the luv o yur life ....
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Re: Hold strong Rc
« Reply #81 on: July 31, 2025, 02:13:43 pm »
Well, you did complain that you don't find your Prius comfortable. When we're spending 20+ hours a week 40+ weeks a year in the car it needs to be reasonably comfortable.

I did say to Ken a while back that in the case of a hybrid I wouldn't look any further than a Toyota. For a diesel I wouldn't look further than a VAG. For an EV I think I know a bit more now than I did then and I'm somewhere between a Toyota and a VW. I'm hoping I'll get another grant offer when I really have to change the car next year. In that case I won't spend much time deciding what to buy but price/availability will inevitably be a factor. None of us know what might be available at what price in 7 months time.

Toyotas are a lot more needy than other brands when it comes to servicing so if I end up with a second hand hybrid I'd actually be doing more servicing than I've ever had to do with my Skodas, at least during their taxi life. Having said that, I have serviced the younger no so young lad's Yaris and it is a pleasure to work on... more stuff to do with spark plugs, I guess, but actually doing it is very straightforward. No undershield, a 1940s canister style oil filter, an air filter held in by 2 clips (as opposed to c.12 screws for a VAG)... the whole lot takes no more than 27 minutes... to be fair, it'd be almost rude not to change the air filter at every service given how simple it is.
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Re: Hold strong Rc
« Reply #82 on: July 31, 2025, 02:28:23 pm »
What was the Story Did the Civil Servant with the Leitrim Accent confirm what the Public Servant with the West Cork accent told you about time limited grants or did they refer you back to the switchboard ?
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Re: Hold strong Rc
« Reply #83 on: July 31, 2025, 02:45:07 pm »
Well, you did complain that you don't find your Prius comfortable. When we're spending 20+ hours a week 40+ weeks a year in the car it needs to be reasonably comfortable.

I did say to Ken a while back that in the case of a hybrid I wouldn't look any further than a Toyota. For a diesel I wouldn't look further than a VAG. For an EV I think I know a bit more now than I did then and I'm somewhere between a Toyota and a VW. I'm hoping I'll get another grant offer when I really have to change the car next year. In that case I won't spend much time deciding what to buy but price/availability will inevitably be a factor. None of us know what might be available at what price in 7 months time.

Toyotas are a lot more needy than other brands when it comes to servicing so if I end up with a second hand hybrid I'd actually be doing more servicing than I've ever had to do with my Skodas, at least during their taxi life. Having said that, I have serviced the younger no so young lad's Yaris and it is a pleasure to work on... more stuff to do with spark plugs, I guess, but actually doing it is very straightforward. No undershield, a 1940s canister style oil filter, an air filter held in by 2 clips (as opposed to c.12 screws for a VAG)... the whole lot takes no more than 27 minutes... to be fair, it'd be almost rude not to change the air filter at every service given how simple it is.
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Toyotas are a lot more needy than other brands when it comes to servicing so if I end up with a second hand hybrid I'd actually be doing more servicing than I've ever had to do with my Skodas,"

We've had this argument before rat ... an im more qualified than you cause ive owned both the octavia an the prius an your completely wrong on this by a country mile ....
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Re: Hold strong Rc
« Reply #84 on: July 31, 2025, 02:49:46 pm »
The prius isnt as comfortable as the octavi ... thats very true ... its its only drawback
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Re: Hold strong Rc
« Reply #85 on: July 31, 2025, 02:52:04 pm »
Havnt said that im a lanky fuk ... hu mite be alright  lol
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« Reply #86 on: July 31, 2025, 03:23:18 pm »
I had a Prius and now have the Bz, the comfort in the Bz is on a different level. Me back used to be in bits driving the prius but not a problem since I bought the Bz and even find myself doing extra hours. Loads of room in the Bz too, can't really compare the two in fairness.

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« Reply #87 on: July 31, 2025, 04:13:44 pm »
You've consistently refused to tell us what your Prius has cost you to maintain, Octy. I've posted the maintenance records for both Gretta and the MKIII Octys on several occasions... but, on a very basic level, the Prius wants an oil change every 15k kilos whereas the Octavia is every 25-30k kilos but I do it every 20k. You don't need to be a genius to work out that you'll be changing the oil in a car every 15k kilos more often than every 20k kilos.
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« Reply #88 on: July 31, 2025, 04:14:56 pm »
What was the Story Did the Civil Servant with the Leitrim Accent confirm what the Public Servant with the West Cork accent told you about time limited grants or did they refer you back to the switchboard ?

Neither had Irish accents but I've posted the detail in the relevant thread.
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« Reply #89 on: July 31, 2025, 04:57:49 pm »
You've consistently refused to tell us what your Prius has cost you to maintain, Octy. I've posted the maintenance records for both Gretta and the MKIII Octys on several occasions... but, on a very basic level, the Prius wants an oil change every 15k kilos whereas the Octavia is every 25-30k kilos but I do it every 20k. You don't need to be a genius to work out that you'll be changing the oil in a car every 15k kilos more often than every 20k kilos.

Ive seen yur maintenance spread sheets or watever yu accountants call them  ratti an they are indeed ocd .... we've been tru all this as I said before
An the prius maintenance is  way cheaper ....  jus to remind ya wat i told ya ...I changed me brake pads on the front cople months ago  for the first time since new an ther was half the meat still left in them  ... I rekon i changed the discs on me octavia bout 6 -7  times an im a very focus thermodynamically educated programmed driver that knows how to drive .... flywheels blown up... 3 ...timing belts , alternators ,starters ... at least a 100 headlight bulbs ... mine didn't have a dpf filter tank fuk or ide be off the road half the time like other blokes that have gave out  fuk bout them ...oh an a set of suspension springs that wasny cheap an probly load other stiff I forget
An i dont know who told ya  30,000 for an oil change but I used to change me oil every 10k kilometres....
It doesnt matter if you put  aldi oil init  or long life oil made of queen bee fanny juice from the himalayas.... the shit that goes inta the engine oil in a diesel is both the same amount of shit .... an its the shit in the oil that wears an engine .... yea skoda mite tell ya to go 30 k but its horse shoite ... anyway I tink yur nit pickin again ... octavias are last century technology .... filty dirty bastardin heaps of shoite ...
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