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Re: Strike
« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2026, 01:05:47 pm »
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Any driver or any firm can charge any amount provided the rider waives his right to have the fare calculated by the taximeter.

Is that true?  I'm thinking about those sunbed shops where the bad guys allegedly launder their money.  Could a 'bad guy' get into his mate's taxi, waive the meter, and be charged €1,000 3 times a week with written receipts and launder his money that way?  Maybe that's what the notebook and pen in the safety kit is for?  Afterall, the courts more or less allow taxi drivers to be drug couriers nowadays.

The maximum fare applies to the Meter but you enter a Private treaty and agree a waiver .Its Private treaty not a taxi fare .Like I explained UBER the booking is Private Treaty but they then pass on the Taxi bit to us and that is governed by the Maximum fare as it is a Taxi Fare with UBER being the customer the passenger is just freight .Taxies doing School runs on a price is a Private treaty not a taxi fare .
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Re: Strike
« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2026, 01:59:19 pm »
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Taxies doing School runs on a price is a Private treaty not a taxi fare .

Can you use the bus lanes if you're in a private treaty, i.e., not looking for a fare and not carrying a PSV passenger?  You can't use the bus lanes if your taxi was hired to bring a parcel from A to B.
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Re: Strike
« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2026, 02:02:30 pm »
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Taxies doing School runs on a price is a Private treaty not a taxi fare .

Can you use the bus lanes if you're in a private treaty, i.e., not looking for a fare and not carrying a PSV passenger?  You can't use the bus lanes if your taxi was hired to bring a parcel from A to B.

Wont be long before somebody calls a strike over that ?
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Re: Strike
« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2026, 02:03:20 pm »


Is it this year or last year

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« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2026, 02:09:17 pm »


Is it this year or last year

Thats just Professional Poster .It did originally say PEACEFUL PROTEST .Im sure the clowns behind it read this forum .Pity they never read the actual taxi act .They are Protesting against UBER but what about Free Now 25% commission ? Very selective about what they accept .
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Re: Strike
« Reply #50 on: October 03, 2026, 02:19:13 pm »
October 2025...like FFS.....backwards D on the roofsign mentality.

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« Reply #51 on: October 03, 2026, 02:24:24 pm »
So the Protest is against Uber fixed fares ? Now how would that effect you ? Oh you do them ! So why not just dump the Uber app .That solves your problem .RTE .Mirror .Sun all have stories and RTE Drivetime .Taxi drivers bring City to Standstill over UBER offering Cheaper fares .Millions of Euro worth of Free Advertising for UBER .You couldnt make up this nonsence .Still no actual Person fronting this .
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« Reply #52 on: October 03, 2026, 03:46:44 pm »

Is it this year or last year


Those roof signs don't look legit either?  And lots of white men with raised fists & no comrades of colour  ::fds
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Re: Strike
« Reply #53 on: October 03, 2026, 07:20:07 pm »
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Any driver or any firm can charge any amount provided the rider waives his right to have the fare calculated by the taximeter.

Is that true?  I'm thinking about those sunbed shops where the bad guys allegedly launder their money.  Could a 'bad guy' get into his mate's taxi, waive the meter, and be charged €1,000 3 times a week with written receipts and launder his money that way?  Maybe that's what the notebook and pen in the safety kit is for?  Afterall, the courts more or less allow taxi drivers to be drug couriers nowadays.

Of course he can as he could with any tradesman or business. However, it's one of those things that would stick out like a sore thumb if he was ever audited by Revenue and would undoubtedly be passed on to CAB. Renting a plate and passing the used notes off as takings would probably be a less obvious methodology but, of course you'd be limited to a grand or two a week before that'd look suspect.
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Re: Strike
« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2026, 07:24:46 pm »
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Any driver or any firm can charge any amount provided the rider waives his right to have the fare calculated by the taximeter.

Is that true?  I'm thinking about those sunbed shops where the bad guys allegedly launder their money.  Could a 'bad guy' get into his mate's taxi, waive the meter, and be charged €1,000 3 times a week with written receipts and launder his money that way?  Maybe that's what the notebook and pen in the safety kit is for?  Afterall, the courts more or less allow taxi drivers to be drug couriers nowadays.

The maximum fare applies to the Meter but you enter a Private treaty and agree a waiver .Its Private treaty not a taxi fare .Like I explained UBER the booking is Private Treaty but they then pass on the Taxi bit to us and that is governed by the Maximum fare as it is a Taxi Fare with UBER being the customer the passenger is just freight .Taxies doing School runs on a price is a Private treaty not a taxi fare .

The problem is you're trying to explain things you clearly don't understand. There is no limit imposed on what Uber may pass on to drivers as the fare. The taximeter is irrelevant once the client waives his right to have the maximum fare permitted by law calculated by the taximeter.

There are only two types of taxi jobs. Private hire and public hire. The fare charged has no bearing on which is which. A public hire occurs when you are hired from a rank or hailed on the street. A private hire occurs when you are booked either privately or through any licensed dispatch operator.
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Re: Strike
« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2026, 07:25:49 pm »
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Taxies doing School runs on a price is a Private treaty not a taxi fare .

Can you use the bus lanes if you're in a private treaty, i.e., not looking for a fare and not carrying a PSV passenger?  You can't use the bus lanes if your taxi was hired to bring a parcel from A to B.

You may use bus lanes on both public and private hire jobs carrying paying passengers provided you have a public hire licence.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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« Reply #56 on: October 03, 2026, 07:31:48 pm »
So the Protest is against Uber fixed fares ? Now how would that effect you ? Oh you do them ! So why not just dump the Uber app .That solves your problem .RTE .Mirror .Sun all have stories and RTE Drivetime .Taxi drivers bring City to Standstill over UBER offering Cheaper fares .Millions of Euro worth of Free Advertising for UBER .You couldnt make up this nonsence .Still no actual Person fronting this .

Apps need to be regulated by NTA in compliance with it's statutory obligations. In particular, it needs to prevent market manipulation to facilitate fair competition. If you don't agree with what the men are asking for, don't turn up and it won't effect you except that you may have a busy afternoon on the day of the protest if it attracts a significant proportion of your colleagues/competitors... so it's a win-win for you.
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« Reply #57 on: October 03, 2026, 07:53:36 pm »
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Taxies doing School runs on a price is a Private treaty not a taxi fare .

Can you use the bus lanes if you're in a private treaty, i.e., not looking for a fare and not carrying a PSV passenger?  You can't use the bus lanes if your taxi was hired to bring a parcel from A to B.

You may use bus lanes on both public and private hire jobs carrying paying passengers provided you have a public hire licence.

Thanks  ::clap
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« Reply #58 on: October 03, 2026, 08:23:12 pm »
You're welcome.

Back when I lived up above in Dublin I was stopped by a member of An Garda Siochana for using a bus lane while bringing the older not so young lad to school. He told me I would be summonsed for using the bus lane unlawfully as he didn't believe I was on hire. Short story long, a letter to the Inspector in Santry Garda Station resulted in a phone call during which said inspector explained that the member in question was on day release from Dublin Airport Garda Station and had been a little over ambitious in the conclusions he jumped to. He assured me that there was no law preventing me from carrying members of my family for reward and further assured me that no further action would be taken by the force or the member in question. In the spirit of cooperation I dropped my complaint against said member which extended not only to his ignorance of the law but also an attempt he made to question a minor without the consent of a parent/guardian.
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« Reply #59 on: October 03, 2026, 09:07:37 pm »
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Any driver or any firm can charge any amount provided the rider waives his right to have the fare calculated by the taximeter.

Is that true?  I'm thinking about those sunbed shops where the bad guys allegedly launder their money.  Could a 'bad guy' get into his mate's taxi, waive the meter, and be charged €1,000 3 times a week with written receipts and launder his money that way?  Maybe that's what the notebook and pen in the safety kit is for?  Afterall, the courts more or less allow taxi drivers to be drug couriers nowadays.

The maximum fare applies to the Meter but you enter a Private treaty and agree a waiver .Its Private treaty not a taxi fare .Like I explained UBER the booking is Private Treaty but they then pass on the Taxi bit to us and that is governed by the Maximum fare as it is a Taxi Fare with UBER being the customer the passenger is just freight .Taxies doing School runs on a price is a Private treaty not a taxi fare .

The problem is you're trying to explain things you clearly don't understand. There is no limit imposed on what Uber may pass on to drivers as the fare. The taximeter is irrelevant once the client waives his right to have the maximum fare permitted by law calculated by the taximeter.

There are only two types of taxi jobs. Private hire and public hire. The fare charged has no bearing on which is which. A public hire occurs when you are hired from a rank or hailed on the street. A private hire occurs when you are booked either privately or through any licensed dispatch operator.

The protesters are Taxi Drivers .They want the issue dealt with through the NTA .Ergo The Customer is UBER they seek taxi drivers to complete the job at a rate Less than the Legal Metered fare .Of course there is no upward limit they reward drivers with bonuses and other goodies like priority .You will note when or if you cover a Fixed fare .You are instructed to turn on your meter ,clearly the instruction to engage meter makes the Journey a taxi job .We cannot rely on not engaging the meter and inputting the offered reward .You post clever semantics but lack understanding .Are you one of the Organisers of this Protest ?
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