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Re: Whistle
« Reply #285 on: March 07, 2018, 01:07:24 pm »
Hi Lads,
I made a mistake by offering the 2 euro offr.
It is for the next 3 weeks. But I think we will have to cancel it. Drivers just don't want it. I made a big mistake by not consulting drivers more.
There were some radio adverts letting people know about the promo. I put in a request in now to change the advert to the Christams adverts.
Please accept my apology. I was just trying to help. I thought getting more customers would help us in this project. Now I see that it is just the wrong message to send to the public. Am I forgiven?

John

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What happened to this ?

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Re: Whistle
« Reply #286 on: March 07, 2018, 01:35:37 pm »
Finishes in 9 days.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Whistle
« Reply #287 on: March 07, 2018, 01:46:28 pm »
Getting the feeling that Whistle ain't going to work out in long run.

It may survive but not as a driver owned app.

If it is going south the investors will probably step in and try to protect their investment.

Remove any incompetent or inexperienced people and try to continue as a commercial (non driver owned) entity.


I take the point made in various threads that either way  it is all good for drivers as whistle and flags existence creates competition and better deals for drivers in the short term.

In the long term, survival of the fittest, some apps will sink and it will return to one or two dominant players who dominate and control a large proportion of taxi drivers work. If you don't like the idea of an app or the policies of an app. Then you are blocked from accessing that portion of the work.

When the economic cycle swings back the other way, (and it will, experts say the economic cycles used to run every 8 to 10 years but with the speed of communication, the internet, a smaller world these  economic cycles will tighten up to around every 5 or 6 years). The apps will be back in control.

The lessons I have picked up for eircab are:

- Hire a PR firm to communicate with media and the public on the driver apps behalf.

- No discounts.. ever!

- Capped Weekly Commission

- Nearest car

I agree with all of these and they could work long term as long as the driver app was a dominant player, (driver support). If drivers continue to play the field, as they are fully entitled to do, but would work against their own interests in the long term if they are owners members of a co-op.


- The No Discount can work long term too if drivers support their own app.

If another app offers discounts and a driver needs or wants that work then that is where the punters will go. If 'the' driver app dominates and controls a large portion of the trade then the punters would go there because they will be sure of a car and the discount won't matter. Which is proven in today's market, shortage of drivers at busy times and no complaints about discounts they just want a car. This will change eventually as the economic cycle moves.

- The only issue I see with nearest car is that corporate customers would have concerns that some jobs may not be covered (and it happens). A valid concern for them as it could affect their business.

As for control of the data, in short term google would have access to the driver app data . However if the app is successful it could invest in protecting its own mapping data if the members decide that is it a viable option and worth doing. The data will have a value in the future if the app is a dominant player in the market.

So the key to the success of the driver app or any other app is driver support. Convincing them that in the long term supporting their own app makes sense. Being played like pawns by other apps with this offer and that offer are all short term. When one or other of the apps gains control or market conditions change that will all stop and they will call the tunes.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2018, 02:04:13 pm by U Wha »

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Re: Whistle
« Reply #288 on: March 07, 2018, 01:52:16 pm »
Ah whistle
That lad in charge a guy on rank told me they call him captain cabbage in the office

Great name
CAPTAIN CABBAGE

Little Trump or LT is another good one because he reacts to events without thought and the use of social media is similar to Big Trump with Twitter.

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Re: Whistle
« Reply #289 on: March 07, 2018, 02:01:59 pm »
I'm not sure that a dominant app is a good thing, even if it is driver owned. Drivers experienced bullying from Hail0 back when Dave and loadsamoney (Dermot) thought they controlled drivers' ability to earn a living. What's to say you wouldn't end up with another couple of idiots doing the same thing in a Co-Op? Of course, the dictatorial management style employed within Whistle does nothing to promote the cause.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Whistle
« Reply #290 on: March 07, 2018, 02:15:20 pm »
I'm not sure that a dominant app is a good thing, even if it is driver owned. Drivers experienced bullying from Hail0 back when Dave and loadsamoney (Dermot) thought they controlled drivers' ability to earn a living. What's to say you wouldn't end up with another couple of idiots doing the same thing in a Co-Op? Of course, the dictatorial management style employed within Whistle does nothing to promote the cause.

That is a valid point and it does happen especially in committee type volunteer environments, credit unions are a prime example. 1000's of members but only a tiny proportion of members have any interest in the day to day as long as it works. It is something that I have thought about but more from the view point of members trying to slowly take control of the shares rather than egotistical control freaks, but same idea. The initial provisional committee of eircab (until 1st AGM) could get in touch with the GAA, Irish League of Credit Unions and Co-operative umbrella groups on how best to protect against that.

My belief is that the driver app co-op would need to have a volunteer driver board (possibly with other non-voting industry stakeholders represented on it). That board would eventually hire a executive team to run the show. No members or former members , myself included are allowed to take up executive positions. The executive team would carry out the policies decided and voted on by the Board or members at an AGM.
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Re: Whistle
« Reply #291 on: March 07, 2018, 02:32:06 pm »
I'm not sure that a dominant app is a good thing, even if it is driver owned. Drivers experienced bullying from Hail0 back when Dave and loadsamoney (Dermot) thought they controlled drivers' ability to earn a living. What's to say you wouldn't end up with another couple of idiots doing the same thing in a Co-Op? Of course, the dictatorial management style employed within Whistle does nothing to promote the cause.

The hailO lads thinking they controlled drivers ability to earn, at that point, did they control it?

In one of my previous posts I mentioned the economic cycles and different market conditions could lead to that situation again. At that time there was an oversupply of drivers, a recession that resulted in less people using taxis , so hailO in effect did control the ability to earn but they could have been more subtle or tactful about it.

I promise you myTaxi won't make those mistakes again, at least with the personalities, they have learnt and evolved. At some point the tables will turn again and they will control the work and ability to earn but will be more professional about it.

Convinces me more that driver members shouldn't run it day to day.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2018, 02:35:25 pm by U Wha »

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Re: Whistle
« Reply #292 on: March 07, 2018, 03:45:28 pm »
I think mytaxi driver relations improved considerably when Dave and loadsamoney (Dermot) parted company with the firm. Senior management consult with drivers these days. In fact, IMO, it's a firm drivers can work with going forward. The future will bring change, a lot of that change won't be beneficial to the taxi trade but drivers will have to learn to adapt to secure their place in that future. We can't and won't halt progress!

There will be another recession, that's as certain as night following day. If we're honest, Paddies haven't done a great job with the economy since taking control of the free State and this Govt is no different. Boom/bust economics seems to be all we're capable of. When recession hits is when drivers will regret giving control of their work to commercial firms. While the economy is booming and we're all earning a few notes we don't give a fuck.
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If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Whistle
« Reply #293 on: March 07, 2018, 04:09:07 pm »
But we'll have social meeja to vent....we're good at that!!

Keep the overheads low and the next recession will be a doddle.

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Re: Whistle
« Reply #294 on: March 07, 2018, 05:35:29 pm »
Loadsamoney dermot whats he at noe?

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Re: Whistle
« Reply #295 on: March 10, 2018, 11:41:29 am »
Email 09/03

Whistle gets busy from Friday evening through to Sunday.

We see the drivers, the same drivers every day taking all the jobs . . fair play to you
Ireland V Scotland in Aviva tomorrow

KO 2.15pm. So it will be busy from 12pm - 2pm. As you know it's always busy S/side rugby match days.

We are still commission free, with only 2% on card jobs !!! Have a good one lads !

PS - Android app is sorted now for card payment !!!

The Whistle Team



Email 10/03 (Today):

COME ON IRELAND !!!

Ireland v Scotland 2.15pm today in the Aviva
Whistle have added 200 cars in the last week . . .
Why not "TRY" Whistle Taxi App 1st today. There'll be no "PENALTY"
Thank you and have a nice day :-)
The Whistle Team



Email 10/03 (Today):

We have very few cars logged on right now, and work coming in. Should be busy for the day. Cash work commission free, card work at 2%. Have a good day lads !
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Whistle
« Reply #296 on: March 10, 2018, 11:44:25 am »
"We are still commission free, with only 2% on card jobs"

Bit of an oxymoron but cheaper than mytaxi's 12% (+€2 on hotel/pub/car hire return shed jobs).
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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« Reply #297 on: March 10, 2018, 12:00:04 pm »
Loadsamoney dermot whats he at noe?

Probably on a spending spree - he's a very wealthy man.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Whistle
« Reply #298 on: March 10, 2018, 12:17:25 pm »
Hope this works

The wonderful Mr. JB

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Re: Whistle
« Reply #299 on: March 10, 2018, 12:41:51 pm »
Has to be related to the 'erm.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

 


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