Brexit

[dalymount]

The facts about brexit are simple.nobody actually knows if it will be a success or not.even the politicians who are negotiating the terms of it dont now.it is chartered waters for both the EU,and the UK.everyone concerned ,has very passionate views,but only time will tell..

[john m]

Dollymount Brexit is actually simple .The EU is a club that works togeather .Britain want to be in the club and out of the club .Imagine you are a member of a Golf club pay your fees and a non member comes in and wants to play but wants to play before you .Thats where the Brits are at they want to trade freely with the rest of Europe and the world but pay nothing and ignore the rules .The Irish border is simple the British had a problem as Arlene says the North is British so in the 70s 80s 90s there was a Civil War in Britain where the British Government sent in soldiers to Shoot and Kill British Citizens most of whome were roman Catholic ,Ethnic Cleansing if you like .
  To prevent this Judicial militeristic slaughter by the British of the British the Good Friday/Belfast Agreement was signed there are many strands in this one of which is that any judical disputes between different ethnic groups in the British Goverened North will be decided under EU law if the UK leaves the EU then minorities ie those of Irish ethnisity will be left defenceless and once again could become victims of British Judicial killing .

 So the Irish border and the Good Friday agreement is not just about transport of goods over a porous birder it is about rights and security .Now where the problem arises is the Brits see an opportunity with the border if they can get free movement of goods between the North and the Republic then as no one part of the EU can be treated differently from any other so free movement of goods between the North and the Republic would be a blueprint for the free movement of goods between the UK and all of Europe ,This cannot be allowed so there will be a hard border between the North and Southren Ireland the Good Friday Agreement will unravel there will be violence in the North and possibly in the Republic .Leo said he had a bullet proof backstop I hope he himself is bullet proof .He had two choices work with the Brits or work with the EU to find a solution or as my old man would say if you want to do something do nothing ,now your talking .

 Tessy May knows that Brexit is an asset stripping coup by the elites they have waited years to get the right people in to position they sold the british people a lie about how great the future will be .The real tragedy is the Brits thought they won the war they only won the fight they lost the war .Scargill lead the Miners up the same hill.

 Britians great Conservative Hero Churchill after the war invited all the Commonwealth to come to britain to help rebuild the mother land he thought they would come work earn then go home they came and they stayed .Now the plan by the Elites is to bankrupt Britain impoverish its people .Then the elites the aristocracy and their allies in vulture funds will buy up the kip they hope the foreigners will migrate and they will regain their country even if it takes a hundred years they dont mind .Whats happening in the UK is decolonisation ,France,Italy will follow Germany will regret opening its borders  .The US policy in Africa and the middle east is to bankrupt Europe by causing wars and forcing people to emigrate into Europe .

 Europes big mistake was to introduce the Euro as a challenge to the Dollar supremacy watch the Yanks fudge the Saudi issue because they sell oil in dollars meaning that every barrell of oil must be paid for in dollars bringing in trillions of dollars for American money traders .Americas biggest ally is Britain and Britain is trying to bring down the EU from the inside .Get the blinkers off Dollyer this country exists in name only we are already bankrupted by the Irish bankers as soon as the ECB increases rates Irish busnesses and mortgage payers will go bust again .We as a country were and will be moochers from the foundation of the state we depended on the Charity of others to survive free money from the Brits then from the EEC then the EU now we help big business rob other countries of their rightfull tax revenues .The world is a Cleptocracy you need to learn how to cheat ,Rob ,fiddle and if you get caught the people you robbed cheated fiddled will send you to jail because your fiddle should of been theres .

 

[The Liffey Lip]

Marx wrote The Communist Manifesto and Ritter worked on an oppositional doctrine. The EU implemented both contemporaneously c/o the bankers in Germany and Switzerland........to foment war and cause division. When corporations are favoured over citizens, we have fascism.......when citizens live in fear and rely on the state to step in for them, we have Marxism..................combine both and we have the E.U. where politicians are elected to office to serve, not to have any power. No group can be run without state permission. All of this stems from the Treaty of Paris(Versailles)....and the Club of Rome.

[dalymount]

John you have given a detailed ,and honest of where tou believe brexit is going.I cannot make it any clearer to you though,I DONT CARE ABOUT ALL THE IFS AND BUTS, I just want my identity,my culture,my heritage,and our countrys sovereignty returned.I dont believe there is any appetite among the Irish to bring this about,but I do believe that with the increasing level of eurpsceptisim through out Europe, this will eventually bring the EU to its knees,and resukt in the total destruction of this old boys club

[john m]

I dont disagree with you Dollymount but if or when the EU falls apart and I do believe that is possible then GET a GUN because its everyman for himself .We will be back to the 40s with adds in the paper offering kids for free to good homes .

[The Liffey Lip]

Sovereignty back is like asking for full 1990 market price for a plate- 90k plus 3.........imfuckingpossible. Dorothy and her red shoes have left the building.

Population of Ireland 12 million by 2040....Red Indians wiped out in 12 yrs after Whitey arrived.

[dalymount]

Whitey Bulger lippy ?

[john m]

Brits are in the Shit .Brexit means Brexit its the will of the people .No its not ,Britain is a Parliamentary Monarchy only the Will of the Crown matters .They have no constitution .The Scottish Referendum and Brexit and the Good Friday vote are just advisories .That is after the vote the returning officer advises the Parliament of the result of the vote it is only an advisory to parliament to see if they want to act on it .What happens when Tessy goes into Parliament with her Brexit deal and it fails to pass in Parliament .What then happens to the Will of the people .Cheap cars after March 2019 

 

[dalymount]

brexiteers need to get DavidDavis in there quick, before it becomes a brexit in name only

[john m]

Dollymount Give this two minutes of your time and see why Brexit worries me .Without Britain in the EU there will be nobody to referee France V Germany https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/theresa-may-brussels   

[dalymount]

Ill give this 2 mins if you give Luke Kellys poem 2 mins deal ?

[john m]

I know the poem I have the album it's the intro to James Connolly ballad

[dalymount]

Think your on the wrong wave lenght there John,its called for what died the sons of roisin (roisin being mother Ireland of course )

[The Liffey Lip]

Rhetorical question........rhetorical poem..........everyone who did Irish in the 80's Leaving Cert did "Róisín Dubh", the poem. The Irish are a funny race...all their songs are sad, and their funerals merry. I'd be studying Assimov's works if I cared.........Ronnie the Robot is going to kill us all.

[silverbullet]

What's the difference between an Irish wedding and an Irish funeral?

At the funeral, there's one less drunk!