New Relationship?

[watty]

It gets worser.  A retired Captain (of what?) wrote into the Irish Times Letters complaining that the new Commish in the Phoenix Park is wearing his UK medals (OBE etc) on his Irish dress uniform.  It's not the done thing apparently.  Tis the end, I tells ya. 

[Belker]

I wouldn't worry about it, the Brits have a Thing about medals and Blue-Peter badges 'n all that !

I'd be more worried about what Stephen posted, if the Brits can now get around extradition laws
so easily with an orangeman in charge of the Gardai, then none of us are safe in our beds.
I'd bet that the Guildford 4 and the Birmingham 6 were just the tip of the iceberg and that
many an innocent Irishman has died in an english prison just fer the crime of being IRISH.

[The Liffey Lip]

It gets worser.  A retired Captain (of what?) wrote into the Irish Times Letters complaining that the new Commish in the Phoenix Park is wearing his UK medals (OBE etc) on his Irish dress uniform.  It's not the done thing apparently.  Tis the end, I tells ya.

The "occupiers" of the vacant houses thingy in Dublin claimed several masked men with "northern" accents removed them from a building last night. Is this compensation for the Monaghan bombings by proxy?

[Rat Catcher]

UVF Publicity photograph from a few years back:



Photograph of Gardai up above in Dublin since the RUC man was put in charge:

[The Liffey Lip]

Surprised you make any distinction...The Dublin Metropolitan area is governed entirely by British laws....R.I.C.


http://irserver.ucd.ie/bitstream/handle/10197/6055/British_Imperial_Statutes_and_Irish_Law.pdf?sequence=1


Think it's page 8 or 9 Rats,,,,if you could be bothered. All our barristers are called to the B.A.R....British Accreditation Registry. The imperial statutes have been supplanted in the main by E,U. imbued directives. Dublin Castle remains the seat of all power for the Irish within the Empire. Solicitors have asked for sittings of certain courts outside the D.M.A. on several occasions, but I'm sure it has never happened.


The nature of the
relationship between Irish law and British Imperial law was never clarified in the
negotiations that preceded the creation of the 1921 Treaty. This issue finally came to the
fore in the months that followed the drafting of the Constitution of the Irish Free State in
1922. It soon became clear that consideration of this matter could no longer be avoided
when the British and Irish referred the draft Constitution to their respective parliaments.
In early 1922 it became clear that the Constitution of the Irish Free State
would have to be enacted in parallel statutes passed by the Imperial parliament at
Westminster and by the Irish house of representatives, known as ‘Dáil Éireann’, sitting as
a special ‘constituent assembly’. At this juncture the British and Irish governments were
forced to consider two related issues. The first issue concerned the nature of the
relationship between Irish law and existing Imperial legislation, in other words Imperial
statutes passed before 1922. The second issue concerned the nature of the relationship
between Irish law and future Imperial statutes that would be passed after 1922. The
second issue, with its obvious implications for Irish legislative sovereignty, attracted most
attention during the creation of the Constitution of the Irish Free State. Nevertheless the
first issue, which is the primary focus of this article, was not ignored in 1922.
In January 1922, just weeks after the signature of the 1921 Treaty, a special
British committee led by the attorney general came to the conclusion that the creation of
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the Irish Free State would have to involve a significant body of Imperial statutes being
incorporated into Irish law.13 A definite agreem

[The Liffey Lip]

Finally, this paper will conclude by making some broad observations about the relationship between the
British and Irish legal systems in light of Brexit. Our two legal systems, once merged under the Act of
Union 1800, were severed into two separate jurisdictions under the Anglo-Irish Treaty of 1921. ‘As
Nelson on his pillar [watched] his world collapse’, ‘the Gaelic nation’, in the words of the poet Louis
MacNeice, ‘appropriated all the alien [had] brought,’ including its legal system.66
 

Now, you'll need to get Draghi or Barosso to explain that in legal terms....both have joined Goldman Sachs since departing the E.U. gravy-train.

[The Liffey Lip]

After the 1937 Constitution came into force the status of pre-1922 Imperial
statutes was no longer denied. Instead, this status was simply ignored. The threat that
they had once posed to Irish sovereignty had receded. Over time the very claim that pre1922
Imperial statutes formed a part of Irish law was largely forgotten.
The question as to whether or not the parliament at Westminster could pass
additional Imperial statutes for the self-governing Irish state after 1922 was not so easily
put out of mind. This issue had threatened to derail the entire settlement represented by
the 1921 Treaty, a development that would have had serious consequences for the history

[Vikkiz]

Surprised you make any distinction...The Dublin Metropolitan area is governed entirely by British laws....R.I.C.

Some people will tell ya that we aren’t a free state at all at all and still part of the UK, and that the 1937 constitution removed all the links to it being true.

[The Liffey Lip]

I don't think the Special Criminal Court(jury-less) has ever sat outside Dublin.......haven't corroborated that so may be wrong, so my claim that I'm sure is not correct.

[The Liffey Lip]

Surprised you make any distinction...The Dublin Metropolitan area is governed entirely by British laws....R.I.C.

Some people will tell ya that we aren’t a free state at all at all and still part of the UK, and that the 1937 constitution removed all the links to it being true.

Well when citizens hand over "inalienable" rights to the State...they've torn up their own constitution. Such rights came from common/natural law and were designed never to be surrendered. One of them was The Right To Life.

Leo maintained there was no conflict of interests in a former intelligence office of the British security services swearing fealty to both British Official Secrets Act and Irish. The Attorney General has been very quiet on this matter. There's a fallout going to happen at some stage.

Using "contractors" to do police work would suggest to me that the force is due a heavy shake-up. In any other country, there'd be civil unrest, but we'd rather save it for a cause that might attract 5,000 likes on Facebook.

In the event of a "United Ireland" sworn subjects of a monarchy cannot live in a Republic, per se. The deals going on behind close doors might explain the lack of Parliamentary activity in Stormont. Collins might have been the fall guy for both sides.

[Rat Catcher]

Where were the Shiners while the people of Dublin were being attacked by masked men under a loyalist's command? Something need to be done before we get our own Bloody Sunday.

[The Liffey Lip]

Another one? Jaysus, we've had 2 that I can think of...Croker and the Lockout...

The Shinners are agents of the state...which state? You read a lot RC... so you decide.....I'm off to Manila for 2 weeks soon...fuck them all.

[Rat Catcher]

Another one? Jaysus, we've had 2 that I can think of...Croker and the Lockout...

Not in my lifetime. Enjoy Manila.

[The Liffey Lip]

I will...thanks. Bono went on and on and on about the one in Derry...typical of the man.

[Shallowhal]

I will...thanks. Bono went on and on and on about the one in Derry...typical of the man.

But it wasn't a rebel song!!