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Title: Weird One
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 15, 2024, 12:27:32 pm
Last evening at approximately 17:14 I got a phone call from a man using what appeared to be a mobile telephone number who claimed to be from NTA. Having established that I had albeit quite limited time to continue - I was actually just entering a licensed premises up above in Dublin for some pre-theatre food/drink - he told me someone reported (to An Garda Siochana) losing a wallet in my car on Saturday evening. Anywaysanall, I found said wallet this morning and arrangements have been made to reunite the same with it's owner... but, in all my years of driving a cab I've never been contacted about lost property by anyone outside of whatever cab company I might have been working for. Anyone else ever get calls of this nature?

I didn't think dealing with lost property was within the remit of NTA or that they worked of a Sunday evening?
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: mercenary for hire on January 15, 2024, 12:43:02 pm
Sounds odd alright.

When I was up in Ballymun doing my suitability a driver left a document in the office then drove off without it and the inspectors claimed GDPR wouldn't allow them to phone him directly to collect his stuff.

Sounds like a copper pretending to be an NTA official.AFAIK the cops have access to our numbers.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: silverbullet on January 15, 2024, 02:16:24 pm
Last evening at approximately 17:14 I got a phone call from a man using what appeared to be a mobile telephone number who claimed to be from NTA. Having established that I had albeit quite limited time to continue - I was actually just entering a licensed premises up above in Dublin for some pre-theatre food/drink - he told me someone reported (to An Garda Siochana) losing a wallet in my car on Saturday evening. Anywaysanall, I found said wallet this morning and arrangements have been made to reunite the same with it's owner... but, in all my years of driving a cab I've never been contacted about lost property by anyone outside of whatever cab company I might have been working for. Anyone else ever get calls of this nature?

I didn't think dealing with lost property was within the remit of NTA or that they worked of a Sunday evening?
I've no doubt you got his name, and retained his number for future use.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: vandriver on January 15, 2024, 03:10:01 pm
I've had NTA inspectors ringing me on their mobiles twice.It does happen.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: watty on January 15, 2024, 05:36:56 pm
Sounds odd alright.  Maybe the wallet owner was pretending to be a NTA flunky and somehow scare you into compliance?
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Belker on January 16, 2024, 08:24:15 am
It does seem odd to be ringing from a mobile number.
I have had a few emails from FN asking me to check fer lost property but never a phone call.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on January 16, 2024, 01:04:32 pm
i've had messages from the app sayin somebody lost gear and i've actually had people ring me as well. a few months ago a yank rang me and said their daughter reckons she lost her headphones in my car. it was the 525 XXXX what ever number that the app uses. don't know why she did'nt convey it to freenow and then freenow convey it to me.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: watty on January 16, 2024, 03:19:13 pm
According to the below, the NTA have nothing to do with lost property.  The mystery deepens!

https://www.transportforireland.ie/support/lost-property/ (https://www.transportforireland.ie/support/lost-property/)

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An Garda Síochána is responsible for lost property handed in by Small Public Service Vehicles (SPSV) operators. When property is handed in, it is held for a minimum of 31 days up to 366 days at the discretion of An Garda Síochána depending on the nature or value of the item, to allow the owner to reclaim it.

You should contact your local Garda Station who can advise you if it has been handed in to any Garda station.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: silverbullet on January 16, 2024, 03:28:40 pm
Last evening at approximately 17:14 I got a phone call from a man using what appeared to be a mobile telephone number who claimed to be from NTA. Having established that I had albeit quite limited time to continue - I was actually just entering a licensed premises up above in Dublin for some pre-theatre food/drink - he told me someone reported (to An Garda Siochana) losing a wallet in my car on Saturday evening. Anywaysanall, I found said wallet this morning and arrangements have been made to reunite the same with it's owner... but, in all my years of driving a cab I've never been contacted about lost property by anyone outside of whatever cab company I might have been working for. Anyone else ever get calls of this nature?

I didn't think dealing with lost property was within the remit of NTA or that they worked of a Sunday evening?
Perhaps it was a friend of a Garda that lost the wallet.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on January 16, 2024, 03:45:48 pm
that's what i was thinkin.
it must be some big shot that owneded it.
you're lucky you did'nt do a ken and rifle it then flush it down the gary glitter.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 16, 2024, 03:52:27 pm
Last evening at approximately 17:14 I got a phone call from a man using what appeared to be a mobile telephone number who claimed to be from NTA. Having established that I had albeit quite limited time to continue - I was actually just entering a licensed premises up above in Dublin for some pre-theatre food/drink - he told me someone reported (to An Garda Siochana) losing a wallet in my car on Saturday evening. Anywaysanall, I found said wallet this morning and arrangements have been made to reunite the same with it's owner... but, in all my years of driving a cab I've never been contacted about lost property by anyone outside of whatever cab company I might have been working for. Anyone else ever get calls of this nature?

I didn't think dealing with lost property was within the remit of NTA or that they worked of a Sunday evening?
I've no doubt you got his name, and retained his number for future use.

He actually rang me again this morning and I did get his his name and he told me they work 24/7, he most definitely was from NTA, I've heard his name mentioned (probably on here or Roys) in the past. Anywaysanall, he explained that Ballymun Gardai contacted him as soon as they got the report. Handy to know that such a system exists for urgent lost property such as passports or medication or whatever... although we don't seem to get many folk coming on here looking for lost property as we (or Roys) once did... probably 'cos new members have to be manually approved to keep the Russian and Israeli bots out these days and sometimes my lack of enthusiasm equates to them sitting on the waiting list for days or weeks on end!
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on January 16, 2024, 05:59:07 pm
antney carey?
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: silverbullet on January 16, 2024, 06:07:37 pm
antney carey?
Stephen Ryan?

Gary Kavanagh?
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Belker on January 17, 2024, 08:33:11 am
..... ... although we don't seem to get many folk coming on here looking for lost property as we (or Roys) once did... ...
That reminds me of the Fooker that came on here years back with very scant information and between us with some masterful detective work found the driver fer him, and the Fooker never came back to say Thanks !
 ::fds   ::fds
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Belker on January 17, 2024, 08:34:10 am
that's what i was thinkin.
it must be some big shot that owneded it.
you're lucky you did'nt do a ken and rifle it then flush it down the gary glitter.
Easy there DMG !
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: John m on January 17, 2024, 10:34:09 am
Whats the rule .How long do you have between finding stuff and handing it in before you can be charged with Larceny through finding ?
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Octavia1 on January 17, 2024, 12:12:16 pm
Whats the rule .How long do you have between finding stuff and handing it in before you can be charged with Larceny through finding ?

" Who cares "  is rite johnny .....i doubt any one on here keeps property that  dorsnt belong to them .....in fact I'm sure so it's nottin to worry bout ......
Unlike the pigs who have emptied the cash  proceeds of crime   from the station safe several.times all over the country  an deported  immigrant back home after robbin ther gold an money an savins ......
The very same pigs probly who are battering grannies down the bog  outside hotels an floodin the country wit illegal immigrants on the lie 
To fill jobs  that  are ironically now bean lost all over the country because of the demise of small businesses cause of the lack of tourist accommodation an a foreigner in charge hell bent ( pardon the pun) on the complete destruction of the economy and  all things irish
I tink we hav enough to be worrying bout than  a n9kia found in the back seat
 ::sleep
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Taxi driver42 on January 17, 2024, 12:48:08 pm
Laptop left in my car
I got a call from customer saying it was there
I returned it asked where she got my number she said garda in Pearse St gave her it
I rang Pearson St complained under gdpr rules to Sargent
20 min ltr the girl rang back and said it was freenow not garda gave number
Rang freenow  next day
They said they never gave number

I think it was the garda but with no back up from woman I was going around in circles
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: watty on January 17, 2024, 03:07:07 pm
Laptop left in my car
I got a call from customer saying it was there
I returned it asked where she got my number she said garda in Pearse St gave her it
I rang Pearson St complained under gdpr rules to Sargent
20 min ltr the girl rang back and said it was freenow not garda gave number
Rang freenow  next day
They said they never gave number

I think it was the garda but with no back up from woman I was going around in circles

I'm open to correction but I think it was the FN app & not the FN staff that gave her your number.  I think it's a flaw that our number stays on the app long after the job is over.  But for us, we cannot see their number the second the job is over.  But, like I said, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: John m on January 17, 2024, 03:11:01 pm
Were taxi drivers not the only people in the State who somebody could pay the Taxithingey and get all your personal details .Was that not included in the review or has that changed under GDPR?
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: taxi1990 on January 17, 2024, 03:21:34 pm
A few times I have got calls from people saying I was in your taxi last night and I ldropped my phone in it.

I say I wasn't working last night. Oh.


Then they try to explain who dropped them home.
Rarely I might ask can you describe the taxi or driver? All you get is it was a man in his 60s....I think rofl

Make and colour of the taxi? Don't know.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Taxi driver42 on January 17, 2024, 03:57:42 pm
No it was garda
She said it garda but when I rang and complained she changed the story
It was the late evening too fn office wouldn't have been open to ring
And when I challenged garda on phone he rang her to change story
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Bob Shillin on January 17, 2024, 04:34:15 pm
Laptop left in my car
I got a call from customer saying it was there
I returned it asked where she got my number she said garda in Pearse St gave her it
I rang Pearson St complained under gdpr rules to Sargent
20 min ltr the girl rang back and said it was freenow not garda gave number
Rang freenow  next day
They said they never gave number

I think it was the garda but with no back up from woman I was going around in circles

I'm open to correction but I think it was the FN app & not the FN staff that gave her your number.  I think it's a flaw that our number stays on the app long after the job is over.  But for us, we cannot see their number the second the job is over.  But, like I said, I could be wrong.
In my experience I have had  calls from clients, but via the intermediate land line number which, as mentioned, stays open for at least 24 hours after the job is completed, and it may be that number via which FN advise clients to make contact.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Taxi driver42 on January 17, 2024, 06:47:29 pm
She said garda gave her the number
I asked what station
She said pearse
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Belker on January 18, 2024, 10:52:39 am
A few times I have got calls from people saying I was in your taxi last night and I ldropped my phone in it.

I say I wasn't working last night. Oh.


Then they try to explain who dropped them home.
Rarely I might ask can you describe the taxi or driver? All you get is it was a man in his 60s....I think rofl

Make and colour of the taxi? Don't know.
That's about all the info myself and Rats got from the fella came on here years back looking fer his driver as he had left an expensive item in the cab, he told us he got the cab in Dublin and the male driver told him he lived in Cavan, and he thought it was a saloon car but didn't know colour or make or race of the driver.
That is all the info we got, but between myself and Ratcatcher we found the driver fer him and the Fooker never came back to say Thanks !
 ::fds   ::fds
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Belker on January 18, 2024, 10:59:47 am
No it was garda
She said it garda but when I rang and complained she changed the story
It was the late evening too fn office wouldn't have been open to ring
And when I challenged garda on phone he rang her to change story
Is it such a Big Deal 42 ??

The last time FN emailed me about a lost item, I did find it and emailed them back, then they asked could they pass my number on to the customer, to which I agreed, he called that evening and gave me €20 worth of lotto scratch cards. Won nothing tho !!
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Taxi driver42 on January 18, 2024, 11:42:14 am
Gdpr rules say u can't give numbers
She didn't give me anything for returning laptop
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Belker on January 18, 2024, 11:54:22 am
Gdpr rules say u can't give numbers
She didn't give me anything for returning laptop
Hardly a Big Deal ??
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: John m on January 18, 2024, 12:32:39 pm
Gdpr rules say u can't give numbers
She didn't give me anything for returning laptop

I asked a Question here and nobody replied .Where is Bubba ? You find stuff it is not your stuff LEGALLY you must try to return it .We have the Garda dropp offs .But the Question I asked was what is our Legal requirement ? To drop it off as soon as we find it ?
Drop it off the next time we pass By
Drop if off when ever you feel like it .

There is a law of Larcny thru finding .If you do not make a reasonable effort to reunite the owner with the goods .In fact the Onus might legally be on you as the Finder to return the Goods to the owner at your expense as you do not own the goods .

If you get a REWARD for return that is down to the Customer .I once returned 980 euro in Cash to a Man who dropped it in the Car at Heuston Iran after him and he asked me to wait I thought I was going to get a small reward but he was checking it was all there .I found a Phone about a week after it was lost it belonged to a garda I returned it to my local station under his instruction and he sent me a 50 euro one for all voucher .

Botton line if you find anything in your car you must legally return it .It is not yours .
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: watty on January 18, 2024, 01:40:54 pm

I asked a Question here and nobody replied .Where is Bubba ? You find stuff it is not your stuff LEGALLY you must try to return it .We have the Garda dropp offs .But the Question I asked was what is our Legal requirement ? To drop it off as soon as we find it ?
Drop it off the next time we pass By
Drop if off when ever you feel like it .

There is a law of Larcny thru finding .If you do not make a reasonable effort to reunite the owner with the goods .In fact the Onus might legally be on you as the Finder to return the Goods to the owner at your expense as you do not own the goods .


I reckon it's 3 days to lodge lost property into a Garda station.  If you didn't hand it in & they could prove it, I'd imagine it's an standard taxi fine (e.g., €80?) rather than larceny.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: silverbullet on January 18, 2024, 02:58:50 pm
An Garda Síochána is responsible for lost property handed in by Small Public Service Vehicles (SPSV) operators. When property is handed in, it is held for a minimum of 31 days up to 366 days at the discretion of An Garda Síochána depending on the nature or value of the item, to allow the owner to reclaim it.

You should contact your local Garda Station who can advise you if it has been handed in to any Garda station.

The Gardaí have a better chance of retrieving your property if you can provide them with the licence number of the cab you were in – this is shown on your receipt.

If the item has not been handed in when you first make the enquiry, it may be worthwhile to ask again a week or so later, as the driver might not hand the item in immediately after it has been found.

The Gardaí will ask you for proof of identity before handing over any property.



https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Public-Consultation-Report_Maximum-Taxi-Fare-.pdf (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Public-Consultation-Report_Maximum-Taxi-Fare-.pdf)

Laurent Slits - head of Uber Rides!! rofl



Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Taxi driver42 on January 18, 2024, 03:05:05 pm
Gdpr rules say u can't give numbers
She didn't give me anything for returning laptop
Hardly a Big Deal ??



Well it's just a observation
I didn't go future
If I fi d anything now I don't return I leave at nearest station
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: John m on January 18, 2024, 04:49:56 pm

I asked a Question here and nobody replied .Where is Bubba ? You find stuff it is not your stuff LEGALLY you must try to return it .We have the Garda dropp offs .But the Question I asked was what is our Legal requirement ? To drop it off as soon as we find it ?
Drop it off the next time we pass By
Drop if off when ever you feel like it .

There is a law of Larcny thru finding .If you do not make a reasonable effort to reunite the owner with the goods .In fact the Onus might legally be on you as the Finder to return the Goods to the owner at your expense as you do not own the goods .





I reckon it's 3 days to lodge lost property into a Garda station.  If you didn't hand it in & they could prove it, I'd imagine it's an standard taxi fine (e.g., €80?) rather than larceny.


arceny = Stealing.

Larceny by finding is when you find something and keep it without making any effort to locate the original owner.

Sometimes it is easy to find the owner — eg a wallet with name and/or address inside. Taking such a wallet after finding it is a clear case of larceny by theft.
Sometimes it is difficult or almost impossible to find the owner — eg finding a £10 note on the street. This should be reported to the police and the money will be yours after a given period if no one claims it. This is very rarely done and most people pocket the note thus committing larceny by finding.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on January 18, 2024, 05:00:48 pm
just realised i founded a handbag over the crimbo.
it's sittin in the hall here.
don't know if i should try and flush it down the toilet and chase it down with a barry.
i've returned loadsa dirt but i still have loadsa swag in the shed in a bag.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: silverbullet on January 18, 2024, 09:19:17 pm
just realised i founded a handbag over the crimbo.
it's sittin in the hall here.
don't know if i should try and flush it down the toilet and chase it down with a barry.
i've returned loadsa dirt but i still have loadsa swag in the shed in a bag.
Does it match any of your outfits?
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on January 19, 2024, 12:41:12 am
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8lbcfp4gTmA&pp=ygUVbXJzIGRvdWJ0ZmlyZSBoYW5kYmFn
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: taxi1990 on January 19, 2024, 08:20:33 am
A few times I have got calls from people saying I was in your taxi last night and I ldropped my phone in it.

I say I wasn't working last night. Oh.


Then they try to explain who dropped them home.
Rarely I might ask can you describe the taxi or driver? All you get is it was a man in his 60s....I think rofl

Make and colour of the taxi? Don't know.
That's about all the info myself and Rats got from the fella came on here years back looking fer his driver as he had left an expensive item in the cab, he told us he got the cab in Dublin and the male driver told him he lived in Cavan, and he thought it was a saloon car but didn't know colour or make or race of the driver.
That is all the info we got, but between myself and Ratcatcher we found the driver fer him and the Fooker never came back to say Thanks !
 ::fds   ::fds



That doesnt surprise me, some people have never heard of manners.

I used to pass on numbers of other taxis to people who rang for one, if I was busy but I don't bother anymore unless asked because most dont even say thanks.
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Cool Boola on January 19, 2024, 10:38:10 am
Thanks
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Octavia1 on January 19, 2024, 11:10:57 am
just realised i founded a handbag over the crimbo.
it's sittin in the hall here.
don't know if i should try and flush it down the toilet and chase it down with a barry.
i've returned loadsa dirt but i still have loadsa swag in the shed in a bag.
Does it match any of your outfits?

 rofl
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 19, 2024, 12:43:09 pm
The strange thing about the second call I got was that the gentlemen explained that while NTA don't necessarily have any official remit in handling lost property they do assist the Gardai where possible.... the strange bit being that the only place I questioned NTAs remit in that regard was on this forum!
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: watty on January 19, 2024, 03:51:26 pm
It's takes a lot of time, practice and patience but the NTA inspectors do eventually learn to read and write, albeit slowly.  So it is possible they read it on here?
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Rat Catcher on January 19, 2024, 04:52:48 pm
Amazed they'd have any interest in our whinging nonsense!
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: silverbullet on January 19, 2024, 07:25:32 pm
25 of the f**kers. Between them, they have more than enough time to read War & Peace, or one of Erm's posts. 8)
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Belker on January 19, 2024, 08:02:55 pm
Larceny by finding is when you find something and keep it without making any effort to locate the original owner.

Sometimes it is easy to find the owner — eg a wallet with name and/or address inside. Taking such a wallet after finding it is a clear case of larceny by theft.
Sometimes it is difficult or almost impossible to find the owner — eg finding a £10 note on the street. This should be reported to the police and the money will be yours after a given period if no one claims it. This is very rarely done and most people pocket the note thus committing larceny by finding.
I found a package wrapped in silver foil on the backseat one Christmas night, I opened it to find a large slice of chocolate gateaux, I don't know if I should have brought it to the Garda station or not ?  But it was the most beautiful chocolate gateaux I ever tasted !!
 lol
Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on January 19, 2024, 08:07:46 pm
a few months back i picked a birthday party gang up.
the fella in the front said do you wanna cupcake. yes please.
jesus christ it was delicious.

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Title: Re: Weird One
Post by: Belker on January 19, 2024, 08:27:26 pm
I did have a strange find one night, it was a student Thursday night and this really old fella flagged me down in the city center at 2am?? Nice fella a bit pissed but not too much, dropped him home to the southern burbs and much later on I found a wallet in the car, I had a peep inside and saw a Nifty note and some change, closed the wallet and last thing before finishing at 6am dropped the wallet in to the Garda station, the Guard takes the wallet from me and rifles through it, he pulls out a library card with a name and date of birth but no address on it, he sez to me; "Yer man Dominic xxx is 84, do you know him ?" and I'm thinking that it has to be the old fella from 2am, so I give the Guard the approx address of where I dropped him off and take my leave.

Then I'm thinking that no way will any 84 year old know where to go to collect lost property, so I email the city library and tell them my tale, a very helpful lady answers refusing to give me any of his details but regonises his name on her computer and promises me to contact the man, that was the last I heard of it. Both the Gardai and the librarian had my contact details if they wished to share them with the old fella.