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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: dalymount on July 02, 2018, 06:31:29 pm
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What the fukk does Leo want a seat on the UN council for ?
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UNdecided 8)?
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There's great shopping in NY & you can catch up on all the latest movies on the flight over?
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UNdeveloped?
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Why shouldn't he have a seat?
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Im not saying he should,or he shouldnt in just asking the question what the fukk does he want it for ? My belief is, that he is trying to influence humanatarian policy at international level,and that being the case he will try to fill this country,and every other country with refugees.
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Why shouldn't he have a seat?
Because he is paid by the tax payers of this country to work for this country and it's people and use resources for the good of this country .
the U.N. is a privately owned international (foreign) power whose interests are not necessarily in line with the interests of the people of Ireland .
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It was the UN that cause the genocide in Sarajevo
Absolute useless organisation.
Typical of Ireland,
Verruca thinks he's a Top man on the world stage.
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I can't se any harm in having a voice at the table.
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Im delighted my man Donald told them to fukk off
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I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Donald meets Boris... an idiot posing as a scholar -vs- a scholar posing as an idiot!
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another fat paycheck?
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It`s not usually the head of state that sits , the Irish UN ambassador would take the seat with advisers in tow. As we send Óglaidh on Peacekeeping tours, why not have an input.
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What the fukk does Leo want a seat on the UN council for ?
Follow the money, it's always about the money !
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On world matters great news coming in from Thailand, I had been following the story of the 12 schoolboys and their soccer coach lost in the flooded cave fer the last 10 days and I was starting to lose hope fer them. Great news today, I'm all 'Made up' !
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Yes indeed its brilliant news,though it seems its going to take some time to actually get them out
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Yes indeed its brilliant news,though it seems its going to take some time to actually get them out
It will take a few weeks, but it will be done and they will all be safe now that they are found,
Fair dinkum to the Thailand Navy Seals, they really pulled out all the stops on this one.
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I believe British divers were also very instrumental in bringing about this very successful conclusion as well,fair play to them
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Ah lads yis are soft as baby shite...they probably sent those kids down after a dog but the dog escaped leaving the kids behind..
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I believe British divers were also very instrumental in bringing about this very successful conclusion as well,fair play to them
Indeed the first diver at the scene had a british accent, the rescue services risked life and limb
to save those boys, and not knowing if they were still alive or dead they stuck to their mission.
RESPECT.
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Ah lads yis are soft as baby shite...they probably sent those kids down after a dog but the dog escaped leaving the kids behind..
Agreed, I am as 'Soft as Pop' anyway when it comes to kids in disasterous situations.
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The kids are 4 kilometres in
Dangerous black dark narrow bends not easy job to get them out.
Not the same as diving in open waters.
Not for the faint Hearted,
Anyway nervous it won't happen, you need to stay calm and confident.
Not all the kids may have that.
But they are in very experienced hands
But I'm sure they will all be rescued,
Eventually,
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Verooka will go the way the others Merkel an the other arses...
10 years time along with electric robot cars... Therel' be big walls all over Europe an soldiers on the border.... Quarantine for your holiers, parties wit nazi flag likeness flags ... An the refugees wil stop.....
An Ireland will be the way in by boat..... Then we be flooded with them, then the race wars will start like in america....
Black Fellas Robin an shootin goin around wit their trousers back the front an hangin off them playin their rap real loud all over the dumping ground of Europe.
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http://www.thejournal.ie/bono-ireland-un-4105181-Jul2018/ (http://www.thejournal.ie/bono-ireland-un-4105181-Jul2018/)
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Verooka will go the way the others Merkel an the other arses...
10 years time along with electric robot cars... Therel' be big walls all over Europe an soldiers on the border.... Quarantine for your holiers, parties wit nazi flag likeness flags ... An the refugees wil stop.....
An Ireland will be the way in by boat..... Then we be flooded with them, then the race wars will start like in america....
Black Fellas Robin an shootin goin around wit their trousers back the front an hangin off them playin their rap real loud all over the dumping ground of Europe.
Cancel the Netflix Octy,
Your loosing it,
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Verooka will go the way the others Merkel an the other arses...
10 years time along with electric robot cars... Therel' be big walls all over Europe an soldiers on the border.... Quarantine for your holiers, parties wit nazi flag likeness flags ... An the refugees wil stop.....
An Ireland will be the way in by boat..... Then we be flooded with them, then the race wars will start like in america....
Black Fellas Robin an shootin goin around wit their trousers back the front an hangin off them playin their rap real loud all over the dumping ground of Europe.
Cancel the Netflix Octy,
Your loosing it,
I lost it yers ago sclass....
Free at last free at last thank God
But I'm probably rite as usual....
The human stew is brewing ;D.
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Plenty of Irishmen go down to Thailand looking for a hole and 12 boys.
Might explain why the ranks are empty in January.
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Yes indeed its brilliant news,though it seems its going to take some time to actually get them out
It will take a few weeks, but it will be done and they will all be safe now that they are found,
Fair dinkum to the Thailand Navy Seals, they really pulled out all the stops on this one.
The 3 divers led by Rick Stanton have more cave time between them than ALL the "Navy Seal" divers from every navy on the planet combined. If they follow Stanton`s lead they`ll have a good shot at recovery. Stanton`s team laid cave line into the chamber the kids were in. If the "Navy Seals" have ANY cop on, Stanton will be directing the whole op. Google Richard Stanton. The 3 Brits were requested by the Thai Government. (The yanks are there now along with their unflappable ability to fuck up a two piece jig saw puzzle.)
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Yes indeed its brilliant news,though it seems its going to take some time to actually get them out
It will take a few weeks, but it will be done and they will all be safe now that they are found,
Fair dinkum to the Thailand Navy Seals, they really pulled out all the stops on this one.
The 3 divers led by Rick Stanton have more cave time between them than ALL the "Navy Seal" divers from every navy on the planet combined. If they follow Stanton`s lead they`ll have a good shot at recovery. Stanton`s team laid cave line into the chamber the kids were in. If the "Navy Seals" have ANY cop on, Stanton will be directing the whole op. Google Richard Stanton. The 3 Brits were requested by the Thai Government. (The yanks are there now along with their unflappable ability to fuck up a two piece jig saw puzzle.)
Heard a theory they might put the kids one by one into a sealed water tight torpedo/coffin type container with oxygen and pull or push them out,make it the size of the tallest kid and then you know they'll all fit in it.
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Heard a theory they might put the kids one by one into a sealed water tight torpedo/coffin type container with oxygen and pull or push them out,make it the size of the tallest kid and then you know they'll all fit in it.
Sounds plausible until you consider how to adjust the buoyancy of the capsule and the non linear tunnels. The media can`t even describe the masks properly, they`re not OXYGEN masks , they`re just full fave diving masks. Divers don`t breathe oxygen generally, it`s just compressed air. Oxygen /Nitrox is used for decompression stops. (Special Forces use Oxygen Rebreathers ,LAR Vs and other mixed gas RBs )
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Heard a theory they might put the kids one by one into a sealed water tight torpedo/coffin type container with oxygen and pull or push them out,make it the size of the tallest kid and then you know they'll all fit in it.
Sounds plausible until you consider how to adjust the buoyancy of the capsule and the non linear tunnels. The media can`t even describe the masks properly, they`re not OXYGEN masks , they`re just full fave diving masks. Divers don`t breathe oxygen generally, it`s just compressed air. Oxygen /Nitrox is used for decompression stops. (Special Forces use Oxygen Rebreathers ,LAR Vs and other mixed gas RBs )
They would have to be accompanied throughout by diver(s) to ease it around bends and such might be one way?
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Heard a theory they might put the kids one by one into a sealed water tight torpedo/coffin type container with oxygen and pull or push them out,make it the size of the tallest kid and then you know they'll all fit in it.
Sounds plausible until you consider how to adjust the buoyancy of the capsule and the non linear tunnels. The media can`t even describe the masks properly, they`re not OXYGEN masks , they`re just full fave diving masks. Divers don`t breathe oxygen generally, it`s just compressed air. Oxygen /Nitrox is used for decompression stops. (Special Forces use Oxygen Rebreathers ,LAR Vs and other mixed gas RBs )
They would have to be accompanied throughout by diver(s) to ease it around bends and such might be one way?
They`d need to be able to adjust buoyancy . Each litre volume of airspace needs 1kg of lead weight to make it neutrally buoyant. Not impossible to do .
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These are young boys we are talking about, boys who have already survived 10 days in the dark with no food.
Judging by my own small fella (16) there isin't really a lot that he could not learn with an hours training.
If'n my small fella was in that cave, then I would say "Teach him how to dive" and I would be 100% sure
that he would make it out.
The monsoon rains may come down heavy at any time and flood that cave entirely,
young lads like this Wild Boar soccer team are as tough as nails, teach em how to dive,
they will make it allright. God Bless em.
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Lets hope so,ill say a prayer for their safe return
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Judging by the video, these are all fine fit young soccer playing lads (like me own small fella),
they are all street-wise and tough as Fook, I'm confident that the likes of Rick Stanton and Co
will get them all out. In my Prayers boys.
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Both they,and their parents must be very anxious
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"Teach him how to dive" and I would be 100% sure
that he would make it out.
The monsoon rains may come down heavy at any time and flood that cave entirely,
young lads like this Wild Boar soccer team are as tough as nails, teach em how to dive,
they will make it allright. God Bless em.
There are a couple of things straight away that can cause panic in a novice diver. The water pressure presses on the ear drum and it`s corrected by what`s called the Valsalva manouever , the diver needs to stay ahead of the increased pressure change , not something you can learn practically on dry land. If this happens, the ear drum will implode , very painful, causing vertigo and nausea. The other is most people when first diving have a tendency to inhale subconciusly through the nose. This results in sucking the mask closer to the face causing a gag reflex and the feeling you can`t breathe which causes panic.
They may end up using something like the Kirby Morgan helmet . https://www.divehelmets.com/products/500-010-kirby-morgan-superlite-sl-17b-diving-helmet (https://www.divehelmets.com/products/500-010-kirby-morgan-superlite-sl-17b-diving-helmet) These are a surface supplied helmet but can be adapted to take a scuba tank.
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Plenty of Irishmen go down to Thailand looking for a hole and 12 boys.
Might explain why the ranks are empty in January.
Dead right there.....something tells me this whole debacle is staged and there'll be a mini-series on HBO. People prefer to worry about problems thousands of miles from their own doors.
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1 rescuer dead.
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1 rescuer dead.
Apparently he ran out of oxygen, while installing oxygen tanks along the route
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A lot of things changed overnight, most especially the death of the experienced Thai diver Saman Kunan, 38 (RIP) in the same channel that the boys are supposed to make their escape through.
And now it would seem the oxygen levels in the cave are falling and the monsoon rains are due on Saturday.
It's like playing 'Russian roulette' with the options being 'Dive' or 'Stay' and the stakes being 13 young lives.
It's a terrible decision that someone has to make, fer me I would still go with the Dive option but with nothing like the same confidence that I had a few days ago, God bless em all.
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But amid the sadness of the day, FIFA’s president Gianni Infantino offered a glimmer of hope for the boys.
“If, as we all hope, they are reunited with their families in the coming days and their health allows them to travel, FIFA would be delighted to invite them to attend the 2018 World Cup final in Moscow as our guests,” he wrote in a letter to the Football Association of Thailand.
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1 rescuer dead.
Apparently he ran out of oxygen, while installing oxygen tanks along the route
The drop tanks contain air not oxygen, each tank has a regulator attached (or should have) so running out of air shouldn`t be a problem. Oxygen is used as a deco gas from 6m to surface. At 6m the partial pressure of O2 is 1.6 , prolonged use of O2 at this depth can cause an oxygen toxicity event (yes, Oxygen is toxic) so the diver is unlikely to have had a scuba tank with O2 . He may have been using an O2 Rebreather in which case he may have had a toxicity hit resulting in drowning. Diving is inherently dangerous, even with years of training and experience.
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Whats your call Bubba, dive or stay ?
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Whats your call Bubba, dive or stay ?
I`m glad it`s not my call Ken. There`s a lot of info that`s not in the public domain, cave diving is more dangerous than open water diving by a factor of 10. I was a mixed gas qualified diver and an instructor and I can tell you straight, this is a "fucked if you do,fucked if you don`t" type of call. Hopefully ,as I said earlier, the "Navy Seal`s" egos don`t rule the decision making process (one dead already, R.I.P.), the best men to run this are the British divers that found the lads.
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FIFA most likely had the best intentions in the world offering the boys free tickets to the world cup final in 9 days time, but if'n that news has filtered through to the boys then it might not help matters, any teenage boy in that cave will now push his rescuers to dive just so as he can be at the world cup final, I know I would if'n I was of that age.
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Whats your call Bubba, dive or stay ?
I`m glad it`s not my call Ken. There`s a lot of info that`s not in the public domain, cave diving is more dangerous than open water diving by a factor of 10. I was a mixed gas qualified diver and an instructor and I can tell you straight, this is a "fucked if you do,fucked if you don`t" type of call. Hopefully ,as I said earlier, the "Navy Seal`s" egos don`t rule the decision making process (one dead already, R.I.P.), the best men to run this are the British divers that found the lads.
I know it's not your call Bubba and even more glad that it's not mine.
Are you saying 'Dive' but with a Rick Stanton led (non-US) team ?
P.S. Thanks fer all the very insightful diving knowledge.
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Whats your call Bubba, dive or stay ?
I`m glad it`s not my call Ken. There`s a lot of info that`s not in the public domain, cave diving is more dangerous than open water diving by a factor of 10. I was a mixed gas qualified diver and an instructor and I can tell you straight, this is a "fucked if you do,fucked if you don`t" type of call. Hopefully ,as I said earlier, the "Navy Seal`s" egos don`t rule the decision making process (one dead already, R.I.P.), the best men to run this are the British divers that found the lads.
I know it's not your call Bubba and even more glad that it's not mine.
Are you saying 'Dive' but with a Rick Stanton led (non-US) team ?
P.S. Thanks fer all the very insightful diving knowledge.
Stanton and the lads have been involved in numerous rescues and recoveries. They have the experience and know how to make the hard call. The Thai`s should bring all the relevant info to them to assess and then follow their lead. They may not have the foolproof solution but it will be the best available if extraction under water is the call. When folk read "Navy Seals" , they think the best of the best, the reality is while they may be OK to do what they need to do in the sea, I`d hazard a guess that of each 100 "Navy Seals" there, they`d be lucky if 1 was a fully certified experienced cave diver. When I was diving you wouldn`t get me into the mouth of a cave never mind explore one. I wasn`t trained in cave diving. Cave diving isn`t high on Navy Seals skillset requirements.
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He's not the first person to die while running out of oxygen while playing with Thai boys, David Carradine comes to mind..
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Whats your call Bubba, dive or stay ?
I`m glad it`s not my call Ken. There`s a lot of info that`s not in the public domain, cave diving is more dangerous than open water diving by a factor of 10. I was a mixed gas qualified diver and an instructor and I can tell you straight, this is a "fucked if you do,fucked if you don`t" type of call. Hopefully ,as I said earlier, the "Navy Seal`s" egos don`t rule the decision making process (one dead already, R.I.P.), the best men to run this are the British divers that found the lads.
I know it's not your call Bubba and even more glad that it's not mine.
Are you saying 'Dive' but with a Rick Stanton led (non-US) team ?
P.S. Thanks fer all the very insightful diving knowledge.
Stanton and the lads have been involved in numerous rescues and recoveries. They have the experience and know how to make the hard call. The Thai`s should bring all the relevant info to them to assess and then follow their lead. They may not have the foolproof solution but it will be the best available if extraction under water is the call. When folk read "Navy Seals" , they think the best of the best, the reality is while they may be OK to do what they need to do in the sea, I`d hazard a guess that of each 100 "Navy Seals" there, they`d be lucky if 1 was a fully certified experienced cave diver. When I was diving you wouldn`t get me into the mouth of a cave never mind explore one. I wasn`t trained in cave diving. Cave diving isn`t high on Navy Seals skillset requirements.
So Call it Bubba, Dive or Stay ?
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Whats your call Bubba, dive or stay ?
I`m glad it`s not my call Ken. There`s a lot of info that`s not in the public domain, cave diving is more dangerous than open water diving by a factor of 10. I was a mixed gas qualified diver and an instructor and I can tell you straight, this is a "fucked if you do,fucked if you don`t" type of call. Hopefully ,as I said earlier, the "Navy Seal`s" egos don`t rule the decision making process (one dead already, R.I.P.), the best men to run this are the British divers that found the lads.
I know it's not your call Bubba and even more glad that it's not mine.
Are you saying 'Dive' but with a Rick Stanton led (non-US) team ?
P.S. Thanks fer all the very insightful diving knowledge.
Stanton and the lads have been involved in numerous rescues and recoveries. They have the experience and know how to make the hard call. The Thai`s should bring all the relevant info to them to assess and then follow their lead. They may not have the foolproof solution but it will be the best available if extraction under water is the call. When folk read "Navy Seals" , they think the best of the best, the reality is while they may be OK to do what they need to do in the sea, I`d hazard a guess that of each 100 "Navy Seals" there, they`d be lucky if 1 was a fully certified experienced cave diver. When I was diving you wouldn`t get me into the mouth of a cave never mind explore one. I wasn`t trained in cave diving. Cave diving isn`t high on Navy Seals skillset requirements.
So Call it Bubba, Dive or Stay ?
I can`t make the call Ken, not qualified.
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Grenade in the hole.Off to the pub lads..
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I can`t make the call Ken, not qualified.
I was Gung-ho fer diving a few days ago but after Saman Kunan's death yesterday (RIP), and your explicit diving posts, I too have no idea what the call is. Fook only knows what will happen in that cave in the coming weeks as regards oxygen, air pressure, flood waters and whatever de Fook else Mother Nature throws at them.
Qualified or Non-Qualified it's a terrible call that someone has to make and make it very shortly, Monsoon rains are due tomorrow.
It's a High stakes game of Russian Roulette. My prayers are with the Boyz.
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Grenades then expanding foam to block the smell..
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They might not have a choice whether to wait or not as one report I heard said there's a lot more rain forecast and there's a huge risk of the caves being swamped completely so their hand might be forced into a dive.
The mooted earlier idea of the capsule has not been mentioned since the first day so mustn't be feasible.
One child by one with a Pro diver(s) with each looks the most likely.
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We all can feel the emotion around this,particularly any of us thar would have children of that age.good intentions are not really much help,but those poor boys are never far from my thoughts,and prayers.no doubt I speak for us all on here when I say our thoughts and prayers are with them,and their families.I watched the boys in the cave on TV. They obviously dont have a clue of the seriousness of the situation.I suppose maybe the best thing for us all is to stay positive,and believe that the operation to get them out will be a total success
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I'm wondering how deep they are underground and could they not drill down to them?? Tis always another option
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is this going to turn out to be a PR exercise .The kids get rescued and the government take the credit .From the start they were very sure they were alive ..........
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Ya know them tings the brikkies use on building site kinda flexible tube the trow rubbish in at top of building and it goes into a skip......
Why don't they bring a very long one of them in an tie a rope to each kid by the feet and put a helmet on him one at a time... And tie the rope to a very fast jeep and floor it and hope for the best,,,,,
Im sure yud get most them out....
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Here's an even better idea...send in a load of Catholic priests........
Them yungfellos wud be fukin out in 2 minutes
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Here's an even better idea...send in a load of Catholic priests........
Them yungfellos wud be fukin out in 2 minutes
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The Irish are sending help.
When one of the volunteers were asked " Are you hopeful?"
He replied " Well I wont be holding my breath"!!
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Ya know them tings the brikkies use on building site kinda flexible tube the trow rubbish in at top of building and it goes into a skip......
Why don't they bring a very long one of them in an tie a rope to each kid by the feet and put a helmet on him one at a time... And tie the rope to a very fast jeep and floor it and hope for the best,,,,,
Im sure yud get most them out....
Elon Musk (multi-billionaire Tesla guy) had a similar rubber tube idea.
It shows your up there with the best of 'em Octy.
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It's started, dive and rescue operation is underway since 4am Irish time this morning.
I haven't bent me knee in many years, but I bent it this morning fer the boys safe passage.
If by a miracle they appear at the world cup final next Sunday then they will overshadow
the entire competition. God speed and best of Cork Irish Luck to the boyz.
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FIFA most likely had the best intentions in the world offering the boys free tickets to the world cup final in 9 days time, but if'n that news has filtered through to the boys then it might not help matters, any teenage boy in that cave will now push his rescuers to dive just so as he can be at the world cup final, I know I would if'n I was of that age.
As it turns out the FIFA offer/incentive is probably a big help.
If'n I was 13 and offered a free World cup Final ticket,
then I too would swim fer my Life. God Bless em all.
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Belker yer a victim of 24 hour news and Social media like the Erm.Twenty years ago nobody would have cared what happpened to anyone in Thailand.Most of us couldn't find it on a map.But because ya seen the video on the news yer tormenting yerself.Leave it to the experts on Facebook to worry.
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This one got ta me MFH, miz own Two youngest boys are of similar age.
P.S. I don't do Facebook or Twitter or any of them ridiculous so called
'social media websites'.
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The Monsoon rains have started. God Speed Boyz.
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Don't let it in yer head.Kids getting horrible shit done to them closer to home need more attention.Ya know it's turned into a public relations exercise when ya see Elon Musk and FIFA getting involved.
Do ya not remember the Simpsons episode when Bart dropped the walkie talkie down the well and everyone thought he had fallen in after hearing the voice on the two way.
https://youtu.be/o4HTvVM3U3U
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Don't let it in yer head.Kids getting horrible shit done to them closer to home need more attention.Ya know it's turned into a public relations exercise when ya see Elon Musk and FIFA getting involved.
Do ya not remember the Simpsons episode when Bart dropped the walkie talkie down the well and everyone thought he had fallen in after hearing the voice on the two way.
https://youtu.be/o4HTvVM3U3U
I remember that episode MFH, and to add Irish'ish Kids have no regards these days.
THESE KIDS really do need our help and prayers, and they have Mine.
You as a Youngster MFH don't remember the Sisters of Merciless,
I remember them as most on here would aswell.
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https://www.joe.ie/news/thailand-cave-rescue-632380 (https://www.joe.ie/news/thailand-cave-rescue-632380)
First kid expected out about 3PM our time fingers crossed.
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2 out brilliant
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Looks like Stanton and Volanthen are leading the rescue.
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Sorry Kennet I just seen bended knee's and little boys and I thought to myself... T. M. I
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4 out.
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(https://s8.postimg.cc/6fycdr4cx/FB_IMG_1531056068406.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6fycdr4cx/)
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The bag of sweets rofl rofl
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Looks like Stanton and Volanthen are leading the rescue.
That would seem to be the case, great news so far, but with the Monsoon rain after starting,
it's a race against time now, fingers, toes, eyes and ears crossed ! God speed.
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Dito
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(The yanks are there now along with their unflappable ability to fuck up a two piece jig saw puzzle.)
Thankfully the Thai government have not allowed the yanks any access to the dive area,
which ups my hopes. Rick Stanton seems to be the Man in charge, God bless him and the boyz.
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(The yanks are there now along with their unflappable ability to fuck up a two piece jig saw puzzle.)
Thankfully the Thai government have not allowed the yanks any access to the dive area,
which ups my hopes. Rick Stanton seems to be the Man in charge, God bless him and the boyz.
I never met Stanton but have met plenty of top level divers from U.K. who hold him in very high regard. The 3 Brits are possibly the best confined space cavers/cave divers on the planet. The Yanks have cave divers too, if you consider that the caves they dive are huge underground car parks with small (2m-3m) restrictions. These guys are Tunnel Rats compared to the Yanks.
Here`s an example of the U.S. cave diving. Spectacular dives but on a difficulty level so much less than the lads do.
https://youtu.be/r1DvWyHKzBc
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Cheers Bubba, your posts are awesome in detail, thanks fer that.
As fer "Tunnel Rats", if'n I was stuck in that cave, then it's a 'Tunnel Rat' that I want
to see coming and Not some pox yank with a nuclear war-head over his shoulder.
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The media have their heads up their holes with the reporting. There`s probably 6-10 portable compressors on site. Most will probably fill 2 tanks at a go, i.e. 2 fill whips (hoses). A 12 ltr tank takes about 10 -15 mins to fill properly. So with 10 comps (with 2 fill hoses) they can fill 20 tanks every 15 mins. Allowing time to to disconnect full and connect empties, add 5 mins to that, so 20 mins for 20 tanks. I hour for 60 tanks, 5 hours for 300 tanks. The divers also have to stay out of the water for a specific time to decompress nitrogen from their blood. The required time is calculated by using computerised dive tables or US Navy dive tables / British Sub Aqua Club dive tables (both come in hard copy).
There will be divers ready to place drop tanks before the rescue divers head in to the boys again. The lads will have learned a huge amount on the first rescue. They`ll know if more tanks are needed (I don`t know how many they have,300 is just a guess) and will have refined the extraction plan further. Don`t be surprised if they get the remaining 9 out today .
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I heard two of the first four rescued kids went back in because they forgot their Smartphones...
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I heard two of the first four rescued kids went back in because they forgot their Smartphones...
lol
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6 out now https://www.joe.ie/news/update-six-boys-now-free-thailand-caves-632505 (https://www.joe.ie/news/update-six-boys-now-free-thailand-caves-632505)
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8 out now.
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10 now
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8 out and rescue finished fer the day, prob get the remaining 5 tomorrow.
Jeez Bubba, ya should have looked fer a job with Sky or CNN.
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8 out and rescue finished fer the day, prob get the remaining 5 tomorrow.
Jeez Bubba, ya should have looked fer a job with Sky or CNN.
Fukkin muppets. CNN had a couple of good experienced pax on, Christine Dennison knew what she was talking about and the head guy from NACD also. I`m just posting info here to give an insight into the whole operation and what`s involved. Running very smoothly atm. Hats off to the military letting the lads run the show.
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Where did you learn to dive, BHT? We'll have to start calling you Frogman.
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Where did you learn to dive, BHT? We'll have to start calling you Frogman.
The man from Atlantis!
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Where did you learn to dive, BHT? We'll have to start calling you Frogman.
Joined a club here in Dublin, Omega S.A.C. ,members of Irish Underwater Council, C.F.T. . We trained under C.M.A.S. structure, 2 months pool training, once a week, 5 sea snorkels, 3 training sea dives, then another 24 dives before certification. 5 x 10m, 5 x 15m, 5 x 20m, 5 x 25m and 4 x 30m dives. Most of the first 15 were at Lambay Island, the rest Valentia Island and Portocloy , Mayo. Mixed gas was with TDI and Instructor level was with TDI , PSAI and ITDA.
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Scububba Ho Tep.
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rofl
Scububba Ho Tep.
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FFS somebody posting on here who ACTUALLY knows what they are talking about .
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FFS somebody posting on here who ACTUALLY knows what they are talking about .
Makes a change doesn’t it Erm
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So did they use the capsule idea? https://www.facebook.com/ismail.koye.2581/posts/415522358934495 (https://www.facebook.com/ismail.koye.2581/posts/415522358934495)
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Neymar has been drafted in to teach the young boys how to dive properly!
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Neymar has been drafted in to teach the young boys how to dive properly!
FFs Silver WTF you are actually funny lol lol lol lol lol
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So did they use the capsule idea? https://www.facebook.com/ismail.koye.2581/posts/415522358934495 (https://www.facebook.com/ismail.koye.2581/posts/415522358934495)
No. That`s a different dive. Looks like Florida or Mexican cenote. Water is crystal clear. Thats a stretcher used by a French team. Quite possible it`s in Thailand. Dunno if it`s a go/no go for the restrictions in the cave passageways. The tethered diver/FFMask looks more likely. More flexibility for bendy bits.
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Where did you learn to dive, BHT? We'll have to start calling you Frogman.
The man from Atlantis!
lol
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Where did you learn to dive, BHT? We'll have to start calling you Frogman.
That`s what they call Navy Seals. Haven`t earned that title lol
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Here`s the Frog frogmen talking about the stretcher. Right at the start 0.10 , you can see Volanthen supervising the FFM fitting :
https://youtu.be/n2tvl_9yjqk
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have you been down to the Tayleur off lambay island bubba.
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have you been down to the Tayleur off lambay island bubba.
Yes, flattened. Few bits of broken delph knockin around. White Star ship IIRC. Shamrock is nearby too.
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Where did you learn to dive, BHT? We'll have to start calling you Frogman.
Joined a club here in Dublin, Omega S.A.C. ,members of Irish Underwater Council, C.F.T. . We trained under C.M.A.S. structure, 2 months pool training, once a week, 5 sea snorkels, 3 training sea dives, then another 24 dives before certification. 5 x 10m, 5 x 15m, 5 x 20m, 5 x 25m and 4 x 30m dives. Most of the first 15 were at Lambay Island, the rest Valentia Island and Portocloy , Mayo. Mixed gas was with TDI and Instructor level was with TDI , PSAI and ITDA.
I haven't had a bath in 25 years..... Water scares the fuk out of me.
....big respect Bubba.....
ou can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich.
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Where did you learn to dive, BHT? We'll have to start calling you Frogman.
Joined a club here in Dublin, Omega S.A.C. ,members of Irish Underwater Council, C.F.T. . We trained under C.M.A.S. structure, 2 months pool training, once a week, 5 sea snorkels, 3 training sea dives, then another 24 dives before certification. 5 x 10m, 5 x 15m, 5 x 20m, 5 x 25m and 4 x 30m dives. Most of the first 15 were at Lambay Island, the rest Valentia Island and Portocloy , Mayo. Mixed gas was with TDI and Instructor level was with TDI , PSAI and ITDA.
I haven't had a bath in 25 years..... Water scares the fuk out of me.
....big respect Bubba.....
ou can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich.
I`m a different movie Bubba .
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There's loads of elvises in that film
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There's loads of elvises in that film
hundreds, no, thousands !
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Here`s some of the gear flown in :
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Are those the 12L tanks that you spoke of before Bubba ?
How long would 1 tank last a diver ?
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So did they use the capsule idea? https://www.facebook.com/ismail.koye.2581/posts/415522358934495 (https://www.facebook.com/ismail.koye.2581/posts/415522358934495)
Elon Musk had a similar idea;
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/elon-musk-tham-luang-thailand-cave-rescue-mini-sub-10515166 (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/elon-musk-tham-luang-thailand-cave-rescue-mini-sub-10515166)
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...... Running very smoothly atm. Hats off to the military letting the lads run the show.
Indeed, I tip my hat to both the Thai government and Military to let a better trained foreign nation lead the rescue.
Most others countries would be too pompous to allow that, and that includes our own Gardai who told the English
'Anti-hooligan' police to F off when they attempted to offer their assistance prior to the Lansdowne road riot of 1995.
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Elon Musk would do anything to further his Space X programme....manipulative cnut that fella.
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It's on-going, I have me prayers said fer the last 4 boys and their coach and the remaining 19 help workers.
God Speed and Bless em all.
As fer the Seven days quarantine issue, FOOK THAT !
I want to see all these 12 boys in Moscow next Sunday !!
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Another One out, making it 9.
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10, nearly there !
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11 in, One to go !
Bring on Moscow !!
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Are those the 12L tanks that you spoke of before Bubba ?
How long would 1 tank last a diver ?
There`s a lot of variables. A 12ltr tank filled to 200 bar will contain 2,400 ltrs of air. At 10m depth, it becomes 1,200 ltrs ( double the pressure/halve the volume). If tidal breathing volume of a diver is 30 ltr p m , so a 12 ltr @ 10m would give 40 mins . Work rate, depth, experience, calmness all come into play.
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11 out.
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All 12 kids out.
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Coach out too.
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Details emerging , divers doing the actual rescue were assembled by choice. Entire plan formulated by this small group. Highly experienced cave divers were in the relay to pass on kids to military support. If Stanton / Volanthen are interviewed they`ll just call it a team effort. I`d be surprised if either give interviews. The two lads were involved in recovering the body of a Polish diver living here, Artur Kozlowski, from a cave system in Galway in 2011.
Well done !
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Great thread 8) 8)
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Those lads are all.honna become priests,
Because they will never want to go near a dark, damp, wet cave ever again
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Great news, what a supreme rescue effort from all over the globe. :2cheers :2cheers
@ Bubba, whats the story with yer-man-o from Limerick and the diving tank regulators ?
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BOLLIX that they are not allowed to go to the World cup final.
P.C. Bullshite ! if'n anyone ever deserved a seat at a World cup final,
then it is these boyz and all their rescuers.
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Great news, what a supreme rescue effort from all over the globe. :2cheers :2cheers
@ Bubba, whats the story with yer-man-o from Limerick and the diving tank regulators ?
The limerick stuff was that they needed some older regulators or something and someone in limerick had them
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Great news, what a supreme rescue effort from all over the globe. :2cheers :2cheers
@ Bubba, whats the story with yer-man-o from Limerick and the diving tank regulators ?
The limerick stuff was that they needed some older regulators or something and someone in limerick had them
Seemingly they were located in Limerick last Friday night and by Saturday morning they were in Thailand,
Impressive work !
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Great news, what a supreme rescue effort from all over the globe. :2cheers :2cheers
@ Bubba, whats the story with yer-man-o from Limerick and the diving tank regulators ?
The regs had A clamps afaik. I think standard fitting these days are DIN .
Din on left, A clamp on right.
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Great news, what a supreme rescue effort from all over the globe. :2cheers :2cheers
@ Bubba, whats the story with yer-man-o from Limerick and the diving tank regulators ?
The limerick stuff was that they needed some older regulators or something and someone in limerick had them
Seemingly they were located in Limerick last Friday night and by Saturday morning they were in Thailand,
Impressive work !
Jim Warny from Ennis brought them out Friday . He`s a rescue diver with ICRO and on the BCRC database of experienced cave rescue candidates. Possible the regs might have been pin index O2 regs ,but I doubt it.
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Here`s the scary bit, a few hundred euro of diving gear helping you breathe underwater depends entirely on a 50 cent o-ring staying intact.
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It was a global group effort, everyone from the foreign cave diving experts to the Thai navy seals and hospital staff and many more from all over the planet (to include Limerick) who helped and all those at home who kept them in their prayers. Well Done !
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BOLLIX that they are not allowed to go to the World cup final.
P.C. Bullshite ! if'n anyone ever deserved a seat at a World cup final,
then it is these boyz and all their rescuers.
Why?
They got lost on a local hike and you wanna bring them 100000000 miles away from home.
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It was a global group effort, everyone from the foreign cave diving experts to the Thai navy seals and hospital staff and many more from all over the planet (to include Limerick) who helped and all those at home who kept them in their prayers. Well Done !
It certainly was, however, the plan was conceived by , maybe, 4 divers. The plan would then be put in front of the core team to tear it down , look for flaws and restructured until everyone was happy. One diver would assign dive teams , support divers , time table etc. Another would make sure the surface support was operating as per dive plan. It was a team effort with a very good command structure at the wheel.
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When we`d go for a dive , we`d have a shore marshall with details of number of pax on board, an emergency vehicle clearly marked and parked un obstructed. 2 local doctors numbers and addresses, a helicopter landing site scoped, chamber numbers and route to nearest chamber and we`d let the local coastguard radio where we were going, how long we`d be there and when we`d be back. That was just for a recreational dive. Plan the dive and dive the plan .
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BOLLIX that they are not allowed to go to the World cup final.
P.C. Bullshite ! if'n anyone ever deserved a seat at a World cup final,
then it is these boyz and all their rescuers.
Why?
They got lost on a local hike and you wanna bring them 100000000 miles away from home.
Have to agree Tony. Can't see why the general public gets so involved in these unmitigated fuck-ups all the time. The buzzwords always being "the community is in shock" and "they were doing what they loved" etc etc...Facebook and false empathy...the age of Narcissus etc. Pity half the empty-nuts didn't call these mongs out for what they are........a massive drain on emergency services and a total waste of taxpayers money.
This case might be an exception but somehow I feel it is an opportunity for some chancer to sell his story. As Keith Richards said about the Chilean Miner saga: "Said to the wife, give us a Chilean Miner in bed love, will ya"...Says she.."WTF's that?"...Says he...."Go down me shaft and stay there till Xmas".
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Some of the Elite Navy Seals involved.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/mqw6xvb23/thai.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mqw6xvb23/)
https://globalnews.ca/news/4322553/how-thai-cave-rescue-worked-timeline/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalNews
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Here`s the scary bit, a few hundred euro of diving gear helping you breathe underwater depends entirely on a 50 cent o-ring staying intact.
Sounds like most marriages actually. ;)
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Here`s the scary bit, a few hundred euro of diving gear helping you breathe underwater depends entirely on a 50 cent o-ring staying intact.
Sounds like most marriages actually. ;)
lol
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https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2018/0711/977844-thailand-rescued-boys/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2018/0711/977844-thailand-rescued-boys/)
Drugged up to their eyeballs.....
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https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2018/0711/977844-thailand-rescued-boys/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2018/0711/977844-thailand-rescued-boys/)
Drugged up to their eyeballs.....
Sorta contradicts this account :
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-44775149/thai-cave-rescue-no-kid-has-cave-dived-like-this-before (https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-44775149/thai-cave-rescue-no-kid-has-cave-dived-like-this-before)
but agrees with this account :
https://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/news/watch-live-thailand-cave-rescue-final-five-boys-an/3463846/ (https://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/news/watch-live-thailand-cave-rescue-final-five-boys-an/3463846/)
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Have you noticed the various pax falling over themselves trying NOT to claim kudos for the rescue ? Everyone`s commented except the actual dive team.
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Have you noticed the various pax falling over themselves trying NOT to claim kudos for the rescue ? Everyone`s commented except the actual dive team.
Ide imagine if yu takin sedative.... Then use of breathing apparatus wud be out of the question? Anyway I font know why anyone wud go into a cave.... The coach shud get a big bollocking......
The port tunnel often gives me panics attack
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When we`d go for a dive , we`d have a shore marshall with details of number of pax on board, an emergency vehicle clearly marked and parked un obstructed. 2 local doctors numbers and addresses, a helicopter landing site scoped, chamber numbers and route to nearest chamber and we`d let the local coastguard radio where we were going, how long we`d be there and when we`d be back. That was just for a recreational dive. Plan the dive and dive the plan .
Food for thought... went scuba diving in Spain a couple of times and there seemed to be very little planning, one just assumes the instructors are adequately qualified and know what they're doing.
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When we`d go for a dive , we`d have a shore marshall with details of number of pax on board, an emergency vehicle clearly marked and parked un obstructed. 2 local doctors numbers and addresses, a helicopter landing site scoped, chamber numbers and route to nearest chamber and we`d let the local coastguard radio where we were going, how long we`d be there and when we`d be back. That was just for a recreational dive. Plan the dive and dive the plan .
Food for thought... went scuba diving in Spain a couple of times and there seemed to be very little planning, one just assumes the instructors are adequately qualified and know what they're doing.
Yeah, that`s the normal assumption. Every dive boat should have O2 and O2 regulator, divers down flag,med kit, parachute flares and marine radio and it`s ok to check/ask the operator.
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Now that I know what to ask, I will!
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Now that I know what to ask, I will!
If the operator gets snotty over asking, I wouldn`t bother going out with them .
FYI
all marine radio stations can respond in English. The emergency channel is 16 . If the operator is unable to use radio, the calls are
Pan Pan x 3 , this is Ratcatcher ( boat name , wait for response ) for mechanical assistance ( boat towed back to harbour)
Pan Pan Medico x 3 (wait for response ) for medical assistance , usually lifeboat/ helicopter lift.
Mayday x 3 ( wait for response ) for life threatening scenario.
Just handy to know info.
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Have a listen to this : couple of the UK team( Stanton and Volanthen) masterminded the rescue. 1.10 secs in
https://youtu.be/AFww4IH8ebQ
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Great posts through-out the whole thing Bubba.
Thanks :2cheers
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Have you noticed the various pax falling over themselves trying NOT to claim kudos for the rescue ? Everyone`s commented except the actual dive team.
Ide imagine if yu takin sedative.... Then use of breathing apparatus wud be out of the question? Anyway I font know why anyone wud go into a cave.... The coach shud get a big bollocking......
The port tunnel often gives me panics attack
Just re read this thread.
You`re right Octy, sedatives and diving is a no go, but there was no way the kids would have remained calm and become a danger to both themselves and the escorting diver.
However, the masks they used on the kids were what`s called positive pressure full face masks, which means there`s a constant flow of air into the mask as opposed to a demand valve variant. The demand valve does exactly what it says, it delivers air ONLY when the diver inhales. As the kids were sedated and breathing softly, the demand valve variant may have suffocated them.
The positive pressure FFM also has the bonus of helping push water out of the mask which the rescue divers couldn`t do on a demand valve mask.
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Surprised they didn't show you the real divers in the credits,good movie but not great -(in best Eamon Dunphy accent) lol
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Surprised they didn't show you the real divers in the credits,good movie but not great -(in best Eamon Dunphy accent) lol
Are yu readin posts from 4 yers ago marko ?
Hav ya tried eason,s? lol
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Surprised they didn't show you the real divers in the credits,good movie but not great -(in best Eamon Dunphy accent) lol
Yeah, spose it was more of a documentary with behind the scenes info.
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Surprised they didn't show you the real divers in the credits,good movie but not great -(in best Eamon Dunphy accent) lol
Are yu readin posts from 4 yers ago marko ?
Hav ya tried eason,s? lol
Must be Octy,I'm on about the new Farreller flilm about the cave rescue of the 13 crust grabbers in Thailand... lol
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Surprised they didn't show you the real divers in the credits,good movie but not great -(in best Eamon Dunphy accent) lol
Are yu readin posts from 4 yers ago marko ?
Hav ya tried eason,s? lol
Must be Octy,I'm on about the new Farreller flilm about the cave rescue of the 13 crust grabbers in Thailand... lol
oops ..I see it now
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Surprised they didn't show you the real divers in the credits,good movie but not great -(in best Eamon Dunphy accent) lol
Are yu readin posts from 4 yers ago marko ?
Hav ya tried eason,s? lol
Must be Octy,I'm on about the new Farreller flilm about the cave rescue of the 13 crust grabbers in Thailand... lol
I'm not too sure what you mean by "Crust Grabbers" Marky ?
But if I think it is what you mean, then I reckon it is a tad harsh.
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Surprised they didn't show you the real divers in the credits,good movie but not great -(in best Eamon Dunphy accent) lol
Are yu readin posts from 4 yers ago marko ?
Hav ya tried eason,s? lol
Must be Octy,I'm on about the new Farreller flilm about the cave rescue of the 13 crust grabbers in Thailand... lol
I'm not too sure what you mean by "Crust Grabbers" Marky ?
But if I think it is what you mean, then I reckon it is a tad harsh.
Wexford saying for small kids---reaching up and grabbing crusts off the table-it's harmless Ken...
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I would have just thought them how to dive..good movie though.First time I heard about those positive pressure masks was on here.Thanks BHT.. the movie didn't really explain that part so I was wondering how they didn't drown.
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I would have just thought them how to dive..good movie though.First time I heard about those positive pressure masks was on here.Thanks BHT.. the movie didn't really explain that part so I was wondering how they didn't drown.
Learning to dive and navigating through a zero viz washing machine of a cave system is akin to doing your driving theory and then winning the Formula 1 championship. As cave diving goes, those guys are the best of the best . They are all members of the Cave Diving Group in the UK and the top guys are evaluated for rescue and recovery dives based on experience and ability. Neither the Yanks or the Thai Navy Seals have or had the skillsets to do what the lads done. Sedating the kids was pure genius because it worked. But as they said, it was a body recovery if they didn`t try.
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Yeah hard going alright BHT.Those kids were very lucky to have such expertise around to help.
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Yeah hard going alright BHT.Those kids were very lucky to have such expertise around to help.
As I said way back, if the Navy Seals stow their egos and let the lads run the show , the kids have a chance. Finding the kids was a big exposure to the Seals as to how good the lads were/are.
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I'm just back from the Swiss Alps, spelunking is big business.
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I'm just back from the Swiss Alps, spelunking is big business.
Pot holing is the term used here and UK. Refers to dry caving i.e. without having to use scuba equipment.
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I'm just back from the Swiss Alps, spelunking is big business.
Pot holing is the term used here and UK. Refers to dry caving i.e. without having to use scuba equipment.
There's this too:
http://www.caveatlas.com/systems/system.asp?ID=755&co=CH (http://www.caveatlas.com/systems/system.asp?ID=755&co=CH)
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Git Moore's cousin goes Pot Holing and a cousin of hers loves Joe Dolan...
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I'm just back from the Swiss Alps, spelunking is big business.
Pot holing is the term used here and UK. Refers to dry caving i.e. without having to use scuba equipment.
There's this too:
[url]http://www.caveatlas.com/systems/system.asp?ID=755&co=CH[/url] ([url]http://www.caveatlas.com/systems/system.asp?ID=755&co=CH[/url])
Which is obviously cave diving as opposed to spelunking.
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Here`s an article about Artur Kozlowski body recovery from a cave system in Galway 2011. Volanthen and Stanton lead divers.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/british-rescue-team-recovers-body-of-missing-cave-diver-1.596870 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/british-rescue-team-recovers-body-of-missing-cave-diver-1.596870)
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Here`s an article about Artur Kozlowski body recovery from a cave system in Galway 2011. Volanthen and Stanton lead divers.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/british-rescue-team-recovers-body-of-missing-cave-diver-1.596870 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/british-rescue-team-recovers-body-of-missing-cave-diver-1.596870)
Never heard about that before.