Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: The Liffey Lip on December 16, 2018, 06:34:33 am
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Yez can expect murder on Moore St etc........send in Miss Marple.
E.U. doing away with all cultural traditions and passing down licenses.................next on the list is council gaffs.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/end-of-era-street-traders-can-no-longer-keep-licence-in-family-37628363.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/end-of-era-street-traders-can-no-longer-keep-licence-in-family-37628363.html)
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Ahh jaysus, 18 years after Justice Murphy made his high court decision, it`s now hitting other licenced business. Wonder if anyone will make the leap to licenced premises.
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Airport permits?0
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Airport permits?0
Non transferable.
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I know a bloke who rents one. Is that, strictly speaking, allowed?
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I know a bloke who rents one. Is that, strictly speaking, allowed?
The named driver option was removed a couple of years back so I`d imagine the bloke is pullin yer chain.
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Couple of years since I've spoken with him to be honest.
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RC loves his chain being pulled...no doubt!!
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Airport permits?0
Non transferable.
Yes they are..
Retiring drivers are allowed to pass their Taxi Permit to their son or daughter
(provided they hold a PSV license)
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Couple of years since I've spoken with him to be honest.
I`ve heard tell of such arrangements in the past alright. Apparently some genius has tabled a notion that surrendered or suddenly unused permits should be re issued to a newly instated / existing waiting list in a transparent manner. Can`t see it going anywhere as this genius has a long history of common sense outbursts.
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Airport permits?0
Non transferable.
Yes they are..
Retiring drivers are allowed to pass their Taxi Permit to their son or daughter
(provided they hold a PSV license)
Errr, no they`re not.
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Airport permits?0
Non transferable.
Yes they are..
Retiring drivers are allowed to pass their Taxi Permit to their son or daughter
(provided they hold a PSV license)
Errr, no they`re not.
I've only been on this forum under a year,but you should all know by now that I don't spoof or make things up.
My source is the DAA taxi operation manual May 1st 2018 edition.
So err,yes you can(to your son or daughter)
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Airport permits?0
Non transferable.
Yes they are..
Retiring drivers are allowed to pass their Taxi Permit to their son or daughter
(provided they hold a PSV license)
Errr, no they`re not.
I've only been on this forum under a year,but you should all know by now that I don't spoof or make things up.
My source is the DAA taxi operation manual May 1st 2018 edition.
So err,yes you can(to your son or daughter)
Err, no. But if you can point me to the relevant page and paragraph I `ll have a look.
https://www.dublinairport.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/2018-taxi-operations-manual.pdf?sfvrsn=0 (https://www.dublinairport.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/2018-taxi-operations-manual.pdf?sfvrsn=0)
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Couple of years since I've spoken with him to be honest.
It`s quite possible that he chose to remain a named driver on the rented permit instead of availing of the chance to get his own permit at the time.
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Airport permits?0
Non transferable.
Yes they are..
Retiring drivers are allowed to pass their Taxi Permit to their son or daughter
(provided they hold a PSV license)
Errr, no they`re not.
I've only been on this forum under a year,but you should all know by now that I don't spoof or make things up.
My source is the DAA taxi operation manual May 1st 2018 edition.
So err,yes you can(to your son or daughter)
Err, no. But if you can point me to the relevant page and paragraph I `ll have a look.
https://www.dublinairport.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/2018-taxi-operations-manual.pdf?sfvrsn=0 (https://www.dublinairport.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/2018-taxi-operations-manual.pdf?sfvrsn=0)
Try the bottom of page 16.
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Same paragraph says "A Taxi Permit Holder may only hold one permit at any time although daa recognizes he/she may be an additional driver on another permit." - suggests (informal) rental regime is still in operation. However, it also says "Except by prior written agreement with the customer, taxi drivers may not charge more than the metered fare
and must give customers a printed receipt."!
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Airport permits?0
Non transferable.
Yes they are..
Retiring drivers are allowed to pass their Taxi Permit to their son or daughter
(provided they hold a PSV license)
Errr, no they`re not.
I've only been on this forum under a year,but you should all know by now that I don't spoof or make things up.
My source is the DAA taxi operation manual May 1st 2018 edition.
So err,yes you can(to your son or daughter)
Err, no. But if you can point me to the relevant page and paragraph I `ll have a look.
https://www.dublinairport.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/2018-taxi-operations-manual.pdf?sfvrsn=0 (https://www.dublinairport.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/2018-taxi-operations-manual.pdf?sfvrsn=0)
Try the bottom of page 16.
I stand corrected Van ! Retiring drivers are allowed to pass their Taxi Permit to their son or daughter
(provided they hold a PSV license). A Taxi Permit Holder may only hold one permit at
any time although daa recognizes he/she may be an additional driver on another permit.
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Same paragraph says "A Taxi Permit Holder may only hold one permit at any time although daa recognizes he/she may be an additional driver on another permit." - suggests (informal) rental regime is still in operation. However, it also says "Except by prior written agreement with the customer, taxi drivers may not charge more than the metered fare
and must give customers a printed receipt."!
There were/are some cars with 2 drivers, there`s a few hubby/wife combos.
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how do the airport passes work.
do the daa release a trickle of them every year to cunts who are on the waiting list.
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Bit like council houses... if you're Irish by accident of birth, forget it unless you're a traveller.
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Since 2016,they are only issuing new permits to wheelchair accessible taxis.
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The new standard ones... that are mostly driven by immigrants from India / Bangladesh / Pakistan / Afghanistan / Africa / Eastern Europe / etc?
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I have always believed its the DAA that should be paying TAXI DRIVERS for providing a service for their customers.can you imagine situation where a plane mes in ,and hee I no taxis there to take the punters.there wouldbe fukking murder.thdy should be paying YOU ,not the other way around
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I have always believed its the DAA that should be paying TAXI DRIVERS for providing a service for their customers.can you imagine situation where a plane mes in ,and hee I no taxis there to take the punters.there wouldbe fukking murder.thdy should be paying YOU ,not the other way around
The DAA never asked for payment, we volunteered it in 92/93.
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Why ?
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Why ?
Sorta like Terminator....they sent a taximan into the future to terminate Bobby Molloys mother but hadn't counted on Bertie protecting her but discovered the backhander instead....the rest is history.....or maybe it hasn't been written yet!!
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Big revelation coming about an ex-Taoiseach and dee(sic) Clinton Foundation....2003.
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Why ?
Because they didn`t see the trap . All history now and too long to type. Suffice to say DAA played a blinder and got drivers to offer payment without asking for it.
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There was profit involved, to be fair. When I first worked the DAA rank we paid 40p per job and charged £1.20 pick up.
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There was profit involved, to be fair. When I first worked the DAA rank we paid 40p per job and charged £1.20 pick up.
That was the end result. The initial idea was something completely different. Regardless, we went from £10 a year for sticker to hundreds, no thousints a year.
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... and to add insult to injury there's no pick up charge anymore... strictly speaking!
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lol
... and to add insult to injury there's no pick up charge anymore... strictly speaking!
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Any concessions made to the public, are not made by the Kearns,Kellys ,and Ebbs of this world,they are made by you,the drivers.these cunts are very generous,they offer discounts,remove PUC etc ON YOUR BEHALF.sometimes I just have to wonder about the sanity of taxi drivers.oh mister Kearns,I had my hand up ,please may I go to the toilet.
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To be fair to Kelly, assuming you mean Anthony Kelly, any discounts were suggested by drivers at an open meeting. He wasn't a great fan of discounting at all to be honest. Also, he did give the discounts as the telephone clients used vouchers which he redeemed. However, clients were afforded free pick ups from the depot (not sure if that still applies) at the drivers' expense on foot of it being suggested by a driver who felt many clients were using the unofficial ranks to save the €2.00 instead of coming to the depot to hire a driver who wasn't breaking the law.
I guess it's also worth mentioning that Anthony paid all bribes to pubs, hotels, car hire return sheds, etc out of his takings. He didn't make drivers cough up extra on every job like mytaxi.
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Why ?
Sorta like Terminator....they sent a taximan into the future to terminate Bobby Molloys mother but hadn't counted on Bertie protecting her but discovered the backhander instead....the rest is history.....or maybe it hasn't been written yet!!
Saw Bertie out walking on Griffith Ave last night with Anna Bogle.
I hear he's a peace envoy to Papua New Guinea now.
Headhunted apparently!
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Rat the thing about Kellys thugs they are intimidating,and threatening other drivers who would dare to pick up at a hotel,even though they,themselves are illegally standing for hire
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Rat the thing about Kellys thugs they are intimidating,and threatening other drivers who would dare to pick up at a hotel,even though they,themselves are illegally standing for hire
Never met one.
Especially when they're on their own.
My favourite expression is I DARE YOU!
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You never met one what sb ?
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Why ?
Sorta like Terminator....they sent a taximan into the future to terminate Bobby Molloys mother but hadn't counted on Bertie protecting her but discovered the backhander instead....the rest is history.....or maybe it hasn't been written yet!!
Saw Bertie out walking on Griffith Ave last night with Anna Bogle.
I hear he's a peace envoy to Papua New Guinea now.
Headhunted apparently!
I've picked them up on a few occasions....Anna is a lovely woman.
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Rat the thing about Kellys thugs they are intimidating,and threatening other drivers who would dare to pick up at a hotel,even though they,themselves are illegally standing for hire
I doubt Anthony would endorse such behaviour, if you have a specific complaint you could give him a ring I guess. However, the firm does have specific parking arrangements with some clients e.g. Clayton Hotel, Clonshaugh Rd... in those cases I guess it's up to the hotel who they allow park/queue/ply on their property. Needless to say, the parking spaces aren't supplied free of charge.
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This is old ground that was extensively exhausted in the past.your buddy John argues that Kelly is entitled to have drivers camped in hotel carparks,the rules governing the industry, in addition to Dublin city councils rules would suggest otherwise.it clearly states that taxis may only stand/ ply for hire at an officially appointed taxi rank.this was clarified a number of years ago by Eddie Fullerton when Kellys thugs tried to take over the car park of the then Vurlington hotel,in spite of the fact that an offical rank existed outside for many years
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Why ?
Sorta like Terminator....they sent a taximan into the future to terminate Bobby Molloys mother but hadn't counted on Bertie protecting her but discovered the backhander instead....the rest is history.....or maybe it hasn't been written yet!!
Saw Bertie out walking on Griffith Ave last night with Anna Bogle.
I hear he's a peace envoy to Papua New Guinea now.
Headhunted apparently!
All thanks to the Clinton Foundation.....few hundred million donated on yours and my behalf back in 2003........did you not get the e-mail?
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Rat the thing about Kellys thugs they are intimidating,and threatening other drivers who would dare to pick up at a hotel,even though they,themselves are illegally standing for hire
Fuck them, Dalyer......had a few arseholes squaring up to me over the yrs.......piss and vinegar the lot of them.
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lol... and to add insult to injury there's no pick up charge anymore... strictly speaking!
rofl
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This is old ground that was extensively exhausted in the past.your buddy John argues that Kelly is entitled to have drivers camped in hotel carparks,the rules governing the industry, in addition to Dublin city councils rules would suggest otherwise.it clearly states that taxis may only stand/ ply for hire at an officially appointed taxi rank.this was clarified a number of years ago by Eddie Fullerton when Kellys thugs tried to take over the car park of the then Vurlington hotel,in spite of the fact that an offical rank existed outside for many years
I have no buddies but Fullerton has no jurisdiction on private property. As far as I recall the Burlington terminated it's arrangement with C2K after protests from drivers working the rank outside the premises. They're not "Kelly's thugs"... as noted earlier I doubt Anthony would condone any intimidation or threatening behaviour. As suggested, you could discuss any specific incidents with him.
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Well there is at least one other member of this forum who will attest to having being the subject of intimidating behaviour from these thugs,and also I would dispute your assertion as to wether Mr Fullerton has jurisdiction or not.there are laws governing this industry,and it is his job as guardian,and protector of those laws,to uphold ,and execute any breach of the rules regardless of wether that happens on private property or not
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The law is the law. There may be bye-laws up above in Dublin requiring planning permission for taxi ranks on private property - which could well be the real reason for the Burlington scrapping it's private rank - but that falls outside of NTA's remit and obviously doesn't apply to the Clayton Hotel, Clonshaugh Rd which is in Fingal's administrative area. If NTA had any powers they'd have dealt with that one by now, it's been in operation for several years.
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They're still hanging around the Ballsbridge hotel everyday.I've never felt intimidated by any taxi driver, in fact if I can rob a job under their noses from any of the Crown Plazas I consider it a bonus.
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As I said time and time agin I doubt Anthony would condone any drivers working for his firm intimidating anyone. Best discussed with him directly.
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Rat the reason given for no action being taken by the enforcement team against these drivers is (and I have difficulty believing or accepting it ) is that the enforcement team have to actually engage one of these drivers and firstly ask if he is for hire,and then if he is,enforcement have to actually engage the driver to take the officer a short distance at which point the officer will identity himself and issue a fine in accordance with the rules. This,apparently is the process through which enforcement must carry out should it develope into a court situation.this is what I was told by the NT when I enquired some time ago
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That's entrapment.
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Maybe so,but thats the way its done according to my source.I feel the NTA would have done their homework ,and been advised accordingly from a legal point of view.the fact that they have been successful in securing prosecutions using this process,would seem to suggest otherwise
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That's entrapment.
No it's not....if he's plying for hire illegally.
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March 2018
Judge to decide if Westport taxi case was entrapment (http://www.mayonews.ie/news/31754-judge-to-decide-if-westport-taxi-case-was-entrapment) (Mayo News)
The case of a Murrisk man accused of operating a vehicle for hire without a license has been adjourned while Judge Mary Devins deliberates on a doctrine of law.
The term, ex-turpi-causa, was introduced by defence solicitor James Ward after hearing evidence in the case of John Walshe, Crossview, Thornhill, Murrisk, Westport in the local district court this week.
Mr Ward said the legal doctrine meant the state could not pursue the case as the apprehension of Mr Walshe arose from an illegal act which could be construed as entrapment.
Defending solicitor, Mr Ward then introduced a number of legal questions, namely whether an offence had actually taken place as no money had changed hands and if the whole incident was one of entrapment.
He then asked Judge Mary Devins if this was a case of ex-turpi-causa as the officers knew the vehicle wasn’t a licensed taxi when they got into it.
Mr Jason Teehan, representing the Road Traffic Authority, refuted this and added that all the ingredients for a prosecution were in place to which Mr Ward retorted that the ingredients might be there, but no cake had been baked.
Judge was supposed to decide 19th April but there doesn't seem to be any follow-up on d'Internet...
But here's another story from the Mayo News in Nov 2018. Different judge.
Solicitor claims NTA inciting taxi operators to commit crimes (http://www.mayonews.ie/news/32942-solicitor-claims-nta-inciting-taxi-operators-to-commit-crimes)
Judge Alan Mitchell dismissed the cases against both Ms Granaghan and Mr Gallagher, saying they had not been proven beyond reasonable doubt. In relation to Ms Granaghan, he said that while a fare of €20 was mentioned at the end of the journey, the money did not actually pass hands and she did not gain a reward to be in breach of the regulations.
In Mr Gallagher’s case he said the NTA had failed to prove that he had a local-area hackney licence that restricted him to Achill. As this was a criminal case, he said the State had to prove their cases beyond reasonable doubt.
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You never met one what sb ?
Hard man from Cab2000.
Usually redundant lads from Motorola or Are Lingus.
Softies on their own.
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Staff at aligned Hotels won't use Cab0002.
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See I cant see the point of freezing plate issues.
They will have the same number of plates next month as they did last month, so how will that help things?
Or are they alluding to drivers in Coventry as being as thick as pigs s, in that they would be willing to pay ?20-30,000 for a motor only for that cab to sit around all day doing nothing.
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See I cant see the point of freezing plate issues.
They will have the same number of plates next month as they did last month, so how will that help things?
Or are they alluding to drivers in Coventry as being as thick as pigs s, in that they would be willing to pay ?20-30,000 for a motor only for that cab to sit around all day doing nothing.
You`re in Virtual Ireland infy.