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Title: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Firewall on March 04, 2019, 01:40:35 pm
Suitability Failed to today for not having a puncture repair device. Can anyone clarify, can I use one of the puncture repair slime kits instead of a spare wheel?
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: john m on March 04, 2019, 01:44:45 pm
if the car came from the manufacturer without a spare then you can carry  a kit on board .
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Post by: Rat Catcher on March 04, 2019, 01:58:21 pm
If you had come to Cork last month you woulda had one!
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Firewall on March 04, 2019, 02:23:24 pm
Yeah my car comes from factory with run-flats, so I would assume a repair kit would be sufficient in this case.

RC - Had one or needed one ☺
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 04, 2019, 02:27:06 pm
Had one - we all got one as a present... the one that comes in a spray can, I assume that would suffice?
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Post by: dalymount on March 04, 2019, 02:28:39 pm
I never even knew they check for such things,I thoughr it was only you first aid safety kit they checked
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Post by: john m on March 04, 2019, 02:28:51 pm
Had one - we all got one as a present... the one that comes in a spray can, I assume that would suffice?

Not worth a fuck cloggs up the valve .
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: john m on March 04, 2019, 02:29:58 pm
I never even knew they check for such things,I thoughr it was only you first aid safety kit they checked

And you call yourself a taxi driver ..........................................
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 04, 2019, 02:31:16 pm
They didn't check my spare, DM but it had already passed the NCT... maybe Firewall is an immigrant?
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Post by: dalymount on March 04, 2019, 02:35:22 pm
I know the NCT check your spare,but I didnt know the suitability crowd check it also
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 04, 2019, 02:36:29 pm
Very hard to fail suitability if you're Irish by accident of birth.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: john m on March 04, 2019, 02:39:53 pm
I know the NCT check your spare,but I didnt know the suitability crowd check it also

Inflator might be considered part of the kit by some jobsworth who thought about it down the pub when explaining to some youngone fron Liscannor how important his job was visa vie passenger security in the small public service aren..I think some of them make it up as they go ,but as you said I would ring the Department of taxi stuff for clarification and appeal if it is not a requirement .
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Shallowhal on March 04, 2019, 02:55:22 pm
@Firewall,
Did they fail you because you had a spare wheel instead of a puncture repair device that came as part of the manufacture?
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: john m on March 04, 2019, 03:12:33 pm
Does the inflator kit need a kitemark or some standard mark like the fireputterouterthingey .
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Firewall on March 04, 2019, 03:29:20 pm
I had neither a spare nor a inflation device, puncture repair kit. Don't know how it would fail for something like that. NCT was two weeks ago and didn't fail.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Shallowhal on March 04, 2019, 03:46:40 pm
I had neither a spare nor a inflation device, puncture repair kit. Don't know how it would fail for something like that. NCT was two weeks ago and didn't fail.

Surprised you didn't fail the NCT tbh...although the missuss car passed it's NCT in Jan,she had been hearing a noise before the test,i said put it through and let them find out what it is....but they didn't...so i brought it to a friends workshop on Fri morning to have a look....he asked me when is it due it's NCT....oh how we laughed.....two rear trailing arm bushes are well gone,one of the rear shocks leaking like a sieve,rear exhaust bracket that's welded to the exhaust itself broken,front exhaust mount(supposed to be welded to the CAT section..broken....parts are cheap but the rear bushes are a bitch to replace.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 04, 2019, 03:51:01 pm
I bet you're sorry you put a clutch in her now... woulda been better advised to put a match to it.
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Post by: dalymount on March 04, 2019, 03:54:04 pm
I brought my daughters car up,and the prick failed it because he didnt like the display on the dash board.I pressed a button on the side of the steering column ,and changed the display .had to go back in ,get the cunt and bring him out to check,and only then would he pass it. Fukking foreigner
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 04, 2019, 03:55:24 pm
Damn immigrants. What did she have displayed on the dash?
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Shallowhal on March 04, 2019, 03:55:58 pm
I bet you're sorry you put a clutch in her now... woulda been better advised to put a match to it.

Probably!!
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: john m on March 04, 2019, 04:01:25 pm
I had neither a spare nor a inflation device, puncture repair kit. Don't know how it would fail for something like that. NCT was two weeks ago and didn't fail.

Surprised you didn't fail the NCT tbh...although the missuss car passed it's NCT in Jan,she had been hearing a noise before the test,i said put it through and let them find out what it is....but they didn't...so i brought it to a friends workshop on Fri morning to have a look....he asked me when is it due it's NCT....oh how we laughed.....two rear trailing arm bushes are well gone,one of the rear shocks leaking like a sieve,rear exhaust bracket that's welded to the exhaust itself broken,front exhaust mount(supposed to be welded to the CAT section..broken....parts are cheap but the rear bushes are a bitch to replace.

Give her your password and she can go on line and learn how to change them .Her motor had a prang Insurance came out had a look and came up with a list of repairs but havent sorted it yet as they are contesting the evidence of our kid and the witnesses and the Garda but anyhoo they told her to get it fixed and they might pay out I got 6 euro worth of epoxy two pack resin a few sets of vice grips and 14 euro worth of paint .passed with flying colours .Only paid 400 for 06 Polo last year passed every test .
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: dalymount on March 04, 2019, 04:02:11 pm
Cant remember rat,but seriously it only involved pushing a bytton to change it
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Shallowhal on March 04, 2019, 04:07:36 pm
Cant remember rat,but seriously it only involved pushing a bytton to change it

I always make sure the ODO display is showing properly....some of them fukers are stupid cunts....if they don't know then they should come out and ask the customer.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: silverbullet on March 04, 2019, 07:23:37 pm
I had neither a spare nor a inflation device, puncture repair kit. Don't know how it would fail for something like that. NCT was two weeks ago and didn't fail.
What kind of car has no spare tyre?
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: watty on March 04, 2019, 07:32:50 pm
Most modern ones.  It's one way to 'cheat'/lower the fuel efficiency figures by having a lighter car.  Every gram counts!
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: silverbullet on March 04, 2019, 07:36:55 pm
Most modern ones.  It's one way to 'cheat'/lower the fuel efficiency figures by having a lighter car.  Every gram counts!
So no FAT punters?
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Octavia1 on March 04, 2019, 08:07:11 pm
Had one - we all got one as a present... the one that comes in a spray can, I assume that would suffice?

Ye ken and korky gave us great presents.... Kens torch is a gift and the puncture repair kit.... Thanks lads.....

Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: dalymount on March 04, 2019, 10:23:53 pm
Since when did it fall under the remit of the suitability crowd to check your puncture repair kit.I dont even have a kit any puncture I get I bring it straight to Phil in Cliffords on the clontarf road,another great Bohemians season ticket holder
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Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on March 04, 2019, 11:27:26 pm
those poor NCT fellas must listen to ten times the bollocks we do.
I did the NCT around a month ago and the fella I was talking to looked bunched in the head.
when I was driving out I was expecting him to throw himself under the car.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Belker on March 05, 2019, 07:22:03 am
I had neither a spare nor a inflation device, puncture repair kit. Don't know how it would fail for something like that. NCT was two weeks ago and didn't fail.
How can you drive without a spare ?
I used to have the Space saver yoke but Fooked it out and bought a second-hand full size spare wheel and tyre fer about Fifty notes.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 05, 2019, 03:26:25 pm
Taximen -vs- taxi drivers... I wouldn't take a child's pram out without a spare.

My car is modern, Watty. It's an oh16 FFS... and it has a full size spare wheel.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 05, 2019, 03:30:16 pm
Yis should buy a plug kit.I had two punctures in the last week.It's faster to fix it than take off the wheel and drop it in to get fixed.Ive considered leaving my spare at home as I never need it.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 05, 2019, 03:32:26 pm
Tyre was fucked last time I got a puncture... and the time before that... can't remember the last repairable one I got. Who sells these kits anyway, could be next year's post-Xmas gifts sorted. I'd imagine it's just a few plugs and a bradawl?
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Post by: stonethecrows on March 05, 2019, 03:45:38 pm
Yis should buy a plug kit.I had two punctures in the last week.It's faster to fix it than take off the wheel and drop it in to get fixed.Ive considered leaving my spare at home as I never need it.

How you find the hole ?
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 05, 2019, 03:45:56 pm
The one I bought was from Ebay years ago.I'm sure you can buy them here for five times the price.Some stuff I've read says that they're only temporary solutions but I've never had one fail.I've used it over ten times so far.
 
https://m.ebay.ie/itm/11pcs-Tire-Repair-Kit-Box-DIY-Plug-Heavy-Duty-Patch-Car-Truck-Tubeless-Wheel/123259304254?hash=item1cb2d3b93e:g:-x4AAOSwrFxbUEyD
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 05, 2019, 03:49:26 pm
^^^^^^STC it's almost always a wood screw.You pull it out with a pliers and bore the hole out with the tool then insert the rubber yoke, that needs a bit of muscle, then cut the surplus off with the Stanley that's included.Just did one this morning.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: dalymount on March 05, 2019, 03:53:57 pm
As far as I know there are no plugs,or bradalls involved .you simply put the nozzle of the tin over the valve where tou put in the air,and the white foam inside the tin just plugs the puncture till you get to a reppair shop
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 05, 2019, 03:56:30 pm
That's the can, DM. I got one of them for post-Xmas this year... It's the plug kit that MfH is on about that I was referring to.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 05, 2019, 03:57:43 pm
Bit pricey for post-Xmas gifts... might buy one for myself though!
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 05, 2019, 04:02:42 pm
I just got fed up with the tyre shops saying they're too busy or drop back later.At least now I won't have to put the yellow space saver on.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Shallowhal on March 05, 2019, 04:03:12 pm
As MFH,i have a plug kit and a decent 12v air compressor....i wouldn't put one of those sealant cans near my car....not even next to it!!
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 05, 2019, 04:11:46 pm
Oh yeah forgot to mention the compressor!I got one out of a Maxol for less than a tenner a few years ago.I have had limited success with the sealant foam in the past.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: stonethecrows on March 05, 2019, 04:14:47 pm
^^^^^^STC it's almost always a wood screw.You pull it out with a pliers and bore the hole out with the tool then insert the rubber yoke, that needs a bit of muscle, then cut the surplus off with the Stanley that's included.Just did one this morning.
Ok MFH I understand had this done many a times, BUT what about when it don't fall in to the "Almost Always" category, how you find the hole if the screw don't exist ?
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 05, 2019, 04:17:55 pm
Bring it to Glen or Collin.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 05, 2019, 04:20:49 pm
^^^^^I had a hole once with nothing stuck in it.To find it I poured water(volvic)over the tyre whilst pumping it up with the compressor to find the bubbles.Just like putting a bicycle tube in a basin.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Shallowhal on March 05, 2019, 04:23:14 pm
^^^^^^STC it's almost always a wood screw.You pull it out with a pliers and bore the hole out with the tool then insert the rubber yoke, that needs a bit of muscle, then cut the surplus off with the Stanley that's included.Just did one this morning.
Ok MFH I understand had this done many a times, BUT what about when it don't fall in to the "Almost Always" category, how you find the hole if the screw don't exist ?

Connect the 12v air compressor and listen...i generally remove rear wheels if they have a puncture....fronts..you can lock the front wheels in a turn position and roll it....the offending screw or nail is generally visible.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: watty on March 05, 2019, 06:19:11 pm
<snip> My car is modern, Watty. It's an oh16 FFS... and it has a full size spare wheel.

Did it come with the car originally or did the original owners buy it?

(2012) https://conversation.which.co.uk/motoring/spare-wheels-cars-tyre-puncture-repair-kit-car-makers/

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Of the mainstream car brands available in the UK, just Hyundai, Mercedes, Ssangyong, Toyota and VW offer spare wheels in 90% or more of their entire current model range. At the opposite end of the spectrum, BMW, Chevrolet, Chrysler, Mini, Skoda and Subaru all don’t offer a spare at all, instead opting for a puncture repair kit.

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Skoda: ‘We use this puncture repair kit in our overall strive for environmentally friendly car operation to decrease weight and improve efficiency.’
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Belker on March 06, 2019, 06:33:24 am
As MFH,i have a plug kit and a decent 12v air compressor....i wouldn't put one of those sealant cans near my car....not even next to it!!
Why not Hal ?
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Belker on March 06, 2019, 06:43:36 am
Bollocks on all that ! I have often seen mechanics in tyre garages rolling tyres around and spraying the tyre fer up to Ten minutes with a washing-up liquid solution to find the Bubble, imagine doing that at 3 in the morning out in the bogs in the pissing rain !
Full size spare wheel in the boot is the only way to go fer me.
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Post by: stonethecrows on March 06, 2019, 08:59:57 am
Bollocks on all that ! I have often seen mechanics in tyre garages rolling tyres around and spraying the tyre fer up to Ten minutes with a washing-up liquid solution to find the Bubble, imagine doing that at 3 in the morning out in the bogs in the pissing rain !
Full size spare wheel in the boot is the only way to go fer me.
Sensible man Ken , 100% agree with you
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 06, 2019, 09:02:14 am
What would yis do if ya got two punctures in a row before ya got a chance to get the first reparied?Not impossible.Tow truck?
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Post by: john m on March 06, 2019, 09:10:48 am
What would yis do if ya got two punctures in a row before ya got a chance to get the first reparied?Not impossible.Tow truck?

Ring her .
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 06, 2019, 09:17:13 am
That's an an option but her spare doesn't fit on my car and yer taxi pals won't be answering the mobile if it's busy out.It might seem unlikely but I got two in a week on the same wheel.When I was a courier I got 3 in two weeks during the tiger years.Building sites and skips everywhere in town and my eyesight isn't good enough to dodge the screws on the road.Erm your eyes are fecked.You'd bollixed out there.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: stonethecrows on March 06, 2019, 10:41:19 am
What would yis do if ya got two punctures in a row before ya got a chance to get the first reparied?Not impossible.Tow truck?

Ring her .

Go straight Home or to the Pub and don't collect any more coin
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 06, 2019, 10:55:19 am
What would yis do if ya got two punctures in a row before ya got a chance to get the first reparied?Not impossible.Tow truck?

Ring her .

To do what?
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Shallowhal on March 06, 2019, 11:01:28 am
What would yis do if ya got two punctures in a row before ya got a chance to get the first reparied?Not impossible.Tow truck?

Ring her .

To do what?

For an oul cuddle!!
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 06, 2019, 11:03:28 am
Haven't eaten Coddle in yonks..........do they still put rashers in them, the Dublin wimmin'?
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Shallowhal on March 06, 2019, 11:10:26 am
Haven't a clue LL.....the last coddle that i saw was made by me ol man....and he's dead over 20 years.....
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Post by: The Liffey Lip on March 06, 2019, 11:15:39 am
Ah....cuddle you said...........how remiss of me and my sarcasm. Last coddle I had was in the Leop Inn many moons ago. I was waiting on a fellow from Galway who had won several thousand at the races..........Dec 27th 2007...........nice little earner from Brewery Rd to Loughrea. He had a return ticket from Store St to Galway in case he lost. Spent the night on the piss with him...........the good old days before my back went .
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Shallowhal on March 06, 2019, 11:17:45 am
As you said...you still have your sarcasm!!
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Rat Catcher on March 06, 2019, 11:46:36 am
Did it come with the car originally or did the original owners buy it?


Given that there's a wheel well to accommodate it under the boot floor I'd say it came with the car. Looking at skoda.ie a full size steel wheel is listed as standard equipment for the basic model of the current range of Octavias. I'm not sure that not being listed under other variants necessarily means it doesn't come with those. Mine differs from the current basic model insofar as it has alloys, a center armrest with storage box, various buttons on the steering wheel, automatic transmission, cruise control and such like yet it was clearly manufactured to accommodate a full size (steel) spare wheel.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: Belker on March 07, 2019, 01:17:28 am
What would yis do if ya got two punctures in a row before ya got a chance to get the first reparied?Not impossible.Tow truck?
After the First puncture I would take my spare, spare space saver wheel from the shed and put it in the boot.
Title: Re: Suitability Failed -Puncture device
Post by: mercenary for hire on March 07, 2019, 05:11:16 am
That's a bit of extra hassle tbh.I'd sooner fix it and forget about it.