Masks to be made compulsory on Public Transport

[Theoneandonly]

Ok then Write to Eamo and ask him .Im sure he will telly you ....Exactly what I told you .

Not that bothered, but I'm sure he wouldn't say that small public service vehicles aren't small public service vehicles, or say that it's the drivers who are the small public service vehicles, actually I'd take offence at that , who's he calling small!??

They're not Buses and they're not Trains but Taxis are small public service vehicles, I have a piece of paper that says so

[Theoneandonly]

Taxies will not be included .We ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES .We are vehicles that are available for use by the Public .The Definition of Public service vehicles are those services deemed necessary for the functioning of the state and there is a liability on the State to Provide by means of Subsidy or intervention .If we were Public Service vehicles then we could claim a subsidy for providing our service .

eh! Clue in the name? SPSV = Small "Public Service Vehicle" operated by drivers with SPSV licences.

NO and No a hearse driver or a mourning car driver hold SPSV licences are they Public Service Vehicles .Taxies ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public can use .PUBLIC SERVICE TRANSPORT is transport subsidized by the state as the open market would not provide it as in last bus from town to Blessington with one passenger .

Are you really saying that the drivers are vehicles in order to prove a point? that's simply ridiculous, it's the vehicles that are vehicles and the drivers have licences allowing them to drive such vehicles.

Public service transport has nothing to do with a Subsidy, iThey are vehicles that are licensed to carry passengers for hire or reward, and yes Limos/Hacks and  as well as Taxis are included as small public service vehicles (the drivers are people) (not sure what a hearse is classed as TBH)

Some Public Transport is subsidised in order to provide a service where it wouldn't be feasible otherwise, but that is not what defines it, nor is it always necessary.

Just because it suits the narrative in your head doesn't make it so.

+1

Technically there is no such thing as a taxi or hackney driver. Small Public Service Vehicle drivers have a licence to operate any licenced small public service vehicle. The vehicle licence determines the conditions of operation.

"(not sure what a hearse is classed as TBH)"  See my last reply to John M

Thanks for the clarification re hearses

[Bob Shillin]

No bother wearing a mask if it becomes law, a much more suitable option for me than fitting a screen. Also might mean less clients requesting a screen car, which would also suit me.

[U Wha]

Ok then Write to Eamo and ask him .Im sure he will telly you ....Exactly what I told you .

Eamo would tell him what the Natinal Transport Authority would tell him.

That subsidies are there to offset "some" of the costs on routes that may not always be viable but have a public need.

The fact there is a susbsidy has no relevance on the meaning of public service vehicles other than it is a condition of a licence on some routes.

The Government when issuing Route Licences to operators include a condition called a Public Service Obligation.

Traditionally these routes were operated by the semi state transport companies but now more and more routes are being operated by private operators who can apply for the subsidies.

The NTA awarded a lot of these routes to Go Ahead because they can operate at a lower cost than the unionised semi-state monoliths.

Most routes are viable and attract no subsidies and have no impact on the rest of the other public service vehicles licences.

[Horse]

I'd prefer if they made screens compulsory and not masks. They should pay for it too. I would not feel comfortable picking anyone off the street unless I could see their mush. I'd rather one or two in the back with no masks and a screen than 3 or 4 with masks. Id be paro to fcuk. Not for hygiene purposes but for physical injury possibilities.

[john m]

For Sherlock and Watson who recon we are Public service but cant find any evidence to prove it .Next Clue I have a First Aid kit and a Fire extinguisher does that make me a Doctor or a Fireman .Elementary lads Elementary .

[U Wha]

For Sherlock and Watson who recon we are Public service but cant find any evidence to prove it .Next Clue I have a First Aid kit and a Fire extinguisher does that make me a Doctor or a Fireman .Elementary lads Elementary .

Please refer to my previous replies that contain links and screenshots that support my statements. Also maybe look at your paper driver licence and vehicle licences that make clear references to 'public service'.

I am not trying to be argumentative but simply correcting easy to make misinterpretations. There are subsidies for public transport but they don't define what public service vehicles are, they are simply a condition of a particular licence.

I generally get the point in most of your posts, but I am a little disappointed that you can't admit it when you have misinterpreted something. You are quick to correct others, thwre is no harm in being humble enough to see the error and to learn something new.

[john m]

Ill ask again because I know the Answer .Did you write to the minister and get him to agree with you .Taxi cabs ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public may hire .Give Eamo a tickle and see what he says .

[Belker]

Ill ask again because I know the Answer .Did you write to the minister and get him to agree with you .Taxi cabs ARE NOT PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES they are vehicles that the public may hire .Give Eamo a tickle and see what he says .

Me thinks, Your losing this argument John M.

Of course Taxies are Public service vehicles, FFS we all hold PSV licences !!

[Theoneandonly]

For Sherlock and Watson who recon we are Public service but cant find any evidence to prove it .Next Clue I have a First Aid kit and a Fire extinguisher does that make me a Doctor or a Fireman .Elementary lads Elementary .

What more fucking evidence do you need than an official document with small public service vehicle written on it you muppet!
You're the one spouting rubbish about subsidies with no proof

[Theoneandonly]

6 jobs this morning ... zero masks
Those of you not accepting customers who are not wearing masks will go hungry

[Theoneandonly]

For Sherlock and Watson who recon we are Public service but cant find any evidence to prove it .Next Clue I have a First Aid kit and a Fire extinguisher does that make me a Doctor or a Fireman .Elementary lads Elementary .

What more fucking evidence do you need than an official document with small public service vehicle written on it you muppet!
You're the one spouting rubbish about subsidies with no proof

Sligo County council website:https://www.sligococo.ie/Services/MotorTaxation/MotorTaxationGuidelines/PublicServiceVehicles/#:~:text=Public%20Service%20Vehicles-,Public%20Service%20Vehicles,are%20separated%20into%20two%20categories%3A&text=Small%20Public%20Service%20Vehicle%20%2D%20SPSV,%2D%20Taxi's%2C%20Hackney's%20and%20Limousines)

Public Service Vehicles
Public Service Vehicles are vehicles that carry passengers for a fee.  These vehicles qualify for a reduced rate in tax. PSV's are separated into two categories:

Large Public Service Vehicle - LPSV (Vehicle capable of carrying more that eight passengers - Buses)
Small Public Service Vehicle - SPSV (Vehicles capable of carrying eight passengers or less only - Taxi's, Hackney's and Limousines)
In order to use a vehicle as a PSV there are two types of licence required:

The driver must hold a PSV Drivers Licence - 'the driver's badge'
The vehicle must be registered as a PSV and hold a PSV Vehicle Licence

S.I. No. 191/1963 - Road Traffic (Public Service Vehicles) Regulations, 1963. includes Buses Taxis limos and Hacks

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1963/si/191/made/en/print

where's your proof we aren't .... crap talk about subsidies certainly isn't ?

[dalymount]

All these city council rules,and regulations means fukkall.I remember quoting to the emforcement officers a page from the Dublin street vehicles book.as far as I remember it was page 5 paragraph 2 I could be wrong on that,but it was very explicit in explaining that it was illegal to stand,or ply for hire ANYWHERE other then an officially appointed taxi rank,or stand.the purpose of my quote to them,was to point out that a certain Dublin cab company were breaching this rule by having their drivers illegally camped in the car parks of certain hotels.the fact that it is STILL happening today proves the point that both the rules,and enforcement officers are not worth a bollox when it comes to this kind of enforcement.,and this despite the fact that the chief enforcement officer actually agreed with me

[john m]

Give Eamo a bell and ask him if we a Public Service vehicles

[john m]

6 jobs this morning ... zero masks
Those of you not accepting customers who are not wearing masks will go hungry

But we are Public Transport according to you .So are you ignoring the rules ?