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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2265 on: September 24, 2020, 06:31:03 pm »
 rofl

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/rishi-sunak-job-support-scheme-winter-economic-plan-coronavirus-b575611.html

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As all five feet six of Rishi Sunak rose to his feet at the despatch box of the House of Commons, gaining no perceptible altitude as he did so, it was as fine a moment as any to take stock of how we got here.

The empty air weighed heavy upon him. The hazard tape still stuck down to the floor of the chamber a reminder that these remain very dangerous times.

Can it really be a mere six months ago, in this room, that he was delivering his first Budget? Back then, a government minister, Nadine Dorries, had tested positive for Covid-19 a matter of hours before. Makeshift police tape had been placed over the door to her office, but everyone just crammed in regardless.

Sunak announced, to genuine cheers, that he had allocated fully £12bn to sort out this coronavirus business. This has turned out not to be enough, by somewhere in the region of £379bn.

Perhaps, in hindsight, it might have been then that it should have become clear that the government didn’t really have a clue what it was doing. But then, it’s easy to say with hindsight. Of course, many people said as much with foresight as well, but let’s not get too bogged down in all that.

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2266 on: September 24, 2020, 07:37:16 pm »
Has the bread gone up yet?
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« Reply #2267 on: September 25, 2020, 08:48:15 am »
HEY LOW LIFE IRISH TAX ROBBING SCUM ....The Covid-19 pandemic appears to have strengthened French resolve to achieve fiscal harmonisation in Europe, with possible far-reaching consequences for the Irish economy.

A policy paper issued this month by Notre Europe Jacques Delors Institute quotes the conclusion, adopted by the European Council on July 21st, 2020 , regarding solidarity.

“While utmost vigilance is still required on the sanitary situation, the emphasis is now shifting to mitigating the socio-economic damage. This requires an unprecedented effort and an innovative approach, fostering convergence, resilience and transformation in the European Union,” the council said.

Ireland, the policy paper notes, “has benefited from substantial structural funds, which have offset revenue losses resulting from its tax attractiveness policy in corporate tax”.

The author begins the paper by attempting to define a graduated scale of tax behaviour, starting with tax optimisation, which is legal, rising to tax avoidance which, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, “could be strictly legal” but “is usually in contradiction with the intent of the law,” progressing to tax evasion and the worst offence, tax fraud, which is punishable by law.

Ireland appears on most of the lists of countries which the policy paper links to harmful tax competition. The Tax Justice Network’s list of tax havens ranks Ireland sixth out of 10 in terms of importance of tax havens.

The US Bureau of Economic Analysis says nearly 60 per cent of profits made by US multinationals outside the US are declared in low-tax countries, particularly Ireland and Bermuda.

The Irish Times view on corporate tax: Dublin must confront a long-standing dilemma
The Irish Times view on multinationals in Ireland: hooked on their money
ESRI warns of €26bn hit to economy from corporation tax reversal
The institute’s 21-page policy paper interprets the European Council statement to include the fight against harmful tax competition.

The paper comes at a time when the European Commission is stepping up its campaign against sweetheart corporate tax deals in the EU as pressure builds for companies and wealthy individuals to bear more of the fiscal burden imposed by the deep recessions sweeping Europe.

     
Recovery fund
Paolo Gentiloni, the EU’s economics commissioner, said that Brussels wanted to pressure capitals to root out “structures that facilitate aggressive tax planning” as part of their national reform plans under its €750 billion recovery fund.

The commission has previously identified the Republic among member states whose tax rules are used by companies engaging in aggressive tax planning.

The policy paper was written by a senior French civil servant under the pseudonym Edgard Rivoli. It is not uncommon for French civil servants to use pseudonyms to enable them to maintain anonymity while expressing opinions on policy matters.

“The extraordinary spending involved to drive the recovery effort and the risk of economic divergence within the union require this ‘unprecedented effort’ in terms of European solidarity, which includes the fight against harmful tax competition,” the paper concludes. “In the new post-Covid-19 world there is no place for harmful tax competition.”

The European Parliament should suggest “conditionality” which would “focus on rolling back the most harmful tax regimes and practices in order to benefit from the structural funds or rebates from budget financing contributions,” the French official writes.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) estimates that €550 billion in profits, more than a third of profits generated by foreign subsidiaries of multinationals, are transferred to tax havens annually. Nearly half of that sum reportedly goes to Luxembourg, Ireland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Cyprus and Malta.

Attempts by the EU to prevent harmful tax competition among EU states have often failed because the unanimity rule grants a veto power to each member state. Nordic and East European countries and Ireland and Portugal have opposed a shift to majority voting on fiscal matters.

Macron adviser
Yet France has not given up. The European Affairs commission of the National Assembly reports that Clément Beaune, a close Macron adviser who recently became secretary of state for European Affairs, told a hearing on September 17th that “blockages linked to the unanimous vote could be overcome in the areas of taxation and foreign policy through recourse to the passerelle clauses foreseen by the treaties” .


A passerelle clause can change the voting rule in the council from unanimity to majority voting, the institute report notes. It suggests that article 116 or article 192 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union might be invoked.

Article 116 is about eliminating distortions of competition. Article 192 regards tax-related provisions with environmental


SAVE YOU READING IT ALL .FRANCE SAYS IRISH LOW LIFE TAX CHEATING SCUM YOUR TIME IS UP .WE GAVE YOU COVID COIN AND STOOD WIT YOU ON BREXIT NOW ITS PAYBACK TIME .

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2268 on: September 25, 2020, 08:49:56 am »
Should you not be on the bus to school?Ffs.

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2269 on: September 25, 2020, 08:56:30 am »
Should you not be on the bus to school?Ffs.

Small print Merc going to see the Dole looks like ill only get 157 yoyo a week for 6 months .So might be sitting down for another few months on the Pox Wonga instead .Im still looking for some sort of customs clearance course if this Brexit shit happens there will be plenty of work filling in forms and sending them to somebody to do something with before somebody else does something else .

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2270 on: September 25, 2020, 09:05:34 am »
Best of luck John.But...by th time you get your skills taxi diving might be easier again.No harm learning something new.

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2271 on: September 25, 2020, 09:08:47 am »
Boredom is getting me .Dont see the taxi industry back until there is a needle to kill the cold .Applied for about 100 jobs cant even get a Dear John letter nobody interested in old men .

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« Reply #2272 on: September 25, 2020, 09:19:01 am »
HEY LOW LIFE IRISH TAX ROBBING SCUM ....The Covid-19 pandemic appears to have strengthened French resolve to achieve fiscal harmonisation in Europe, with possible far-reaching consequences for the Irish economy.

A policy paper issued this month by Notre Europe Jacques Delors Institute quotes the conclusion, adopted by the European Council on July 21st, 2020 , regarding solidarity.

“While utmost vigilance is still required on the sanitary situation, the emphasis is now shifting to mitigating the socio-economic damage. This requires an unprecedented effort and an innovative approach, fostering convergence, resilience and transformation in the European Union,” the council said.

Ireland, the policy paper notes, “has benefited from substantial structural funds, which have offset revenue losses resulting from its tax attractiveness policy in corporate tax”.

The author begins the paper by attempting to define a graduated scale of tax behaviour, starting with tax optimisation, which is legal, rising to tax avoidance which, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, “could be strictly legal” but “is usually in contradiction with the intent of the law,” progressing to tax evasion and the worst offence, tax fraud, which is punishable by law.

Ireland appears on most of the lists of countries which the policy paper links to harmful tax competition. The Tax Justice Network’s list of tax havens ranks Ireland sixth out of 10 in terms of importance of tax havens.

The US Bureau of Economic Analysis says nearly 60 per cent of profits made by US multinationals outside the US are declared in low-tax countries, particularly Ireland and Bermuda.

The Irish Times view on corporate tax: Dublin must confront a long-standing dilemma
The Irish Times view on multinationals in Ireland: hooked on their money
ESRI warns of €26bn hit to economy from corporation tax reversal
The institute’s 21-page policy paper interprets the European Council statement to include the fight against harmful tax competition.

The paper comes at a time when the European Commission is stepping up its campaign against sweetheart corporate tax deals in the EU as pressure builds for companies and wealthy individuals to bear more of the fiscal burden imposed by the deep recessions sweeping Europe.

     
Recovery fund
Paolo Gentiloni, the EU’s economics commissioner, said that Brussels wanted to pressure capitals to root out “structures that facilitate aggressive tax planning” as part of their national reform plans under its €750 billion recovery fund.

The commission has previously identified the Republic among member states whose tax rules are used by companies engaging in aggressive tax planning.

The policy paper was written by a senior French civil servant under the pseudonym Edgard Rivoli. It is not uncommon for French civil servants to use pseudonyms to enable them to maintain anonymity while expressing opinions on policy matters.

“The extraordinary spending involved to drive the recovery effort and the risk of economic divergence within the union require this ‘unprecedented effort’ in terms of European solidarity, which includes the fight against harmful tax competition,” the paper concludes. “In the new post-Covid-19 world there is no place for harmful tax competition.”

The European Parliament should suggest “conditionality” which would “focus on rolling back the most harmful tax regimes and practices in order to benefit from the structural funds or rebates from budget financing contributions,” the French official writes.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) estimates that €550 billion in profits, more than a third of profits generated by foreign subsidiaries of multinationals, are transferred to tax havens annually. Nearly half of that sum reportedly goes to Luxembourg, Ireland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Cyprus and Malta.

Attempts by the EU to prevent harmful tax competition among EU states have often failed because the unanimity rule grants a veto power to each member state. Nordic and East European countries and Ireland and Portugal have opposed a shift to majority voting on fiscal matters.

Macron adviser
Yet France has not given up. The European Affairs commission of the National Assembly reports that Clément Beaune, a close Macron adviser who recently became secretary of state for European Affairs, told a hearing on September 17th that “blockages linked to the unanimous vote could be overcome in the areas of taxation and foreign policy through recourse to the passerelle clauses foreseen by the treaties” .


A passerelle clause can change the voting rule in the council from unanimity to majority voting, the institute report notes. It suggests that article 116 or article 192 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union might be invoked.

Article 116 is about eliminating distortions of competition. Article 192 regards tax-related provisions with environmental


SAVE YOU READING IT ALL .FRANCE SAYS IRISH LOW LIFE TAX CHEATING SCUM YOUR TIME IS UP .WE GAVE YOU COVID COIN AND STOOD WIT YOU ON BREXIT NOW ITS PAYBACK TIME .
I dont understand the bit after HEY LOW LIFE TAX ROBBING SUCM

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2273 on: September 25, 2020, 09:20:21 am »
What about B&Q they love taking on OAPs with DIY knowledge.Five minutes drive or two minute walk from your gaff.

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« Reply #2274 on: September 25, 2020, 09:31:01 am »
Dont think the erm is an OAP yet is he ?

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« Reply #2275 on: September 25, 2020, 09:39:02 am »
Not yet Daly but he could be the young stud with a full head of hair that would be the talk of the B&Q canteen..

I'd say his CV is about 17 pages long...including ten pages on Brexit.Hope he gets what he wants.

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2276 on: September 25, 2020, 09:53:48 am »
The european court has only got today left if they're going to challenge the apple ruling,he should get a bit of millage out of that id say

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2277 on: September 25, 2020, 10:11:29 am »
Im the complete other end of the scale to the erm when it comes to brexit.

I love brexit,it cant happen quickly enough for me.

My reasons are these.

I only know one kind of Ireland,and yes before im crucified by the erm,and others,im well aware of the wrongs that have taken place in the catholic chur h,the magilton laundries,the babies scandels,etc etc I well aware.

But from my point of view,I now have to accept an Ireland that I just dont know.

The foreign influence that now dictates policy in this country is something I can never subscribe to.

Young people coming from the country with accents,that could easily be mistaken for some part of the USA,trying to distence themselves from their heritage,foreigners everywhere talking in their own language,(and most probably laughing at the stupid Irish paying them huge welfare payments) a liberal left wing group of shit stirrers who have demanded gay marriage,abortion,removal of free speech,etc etc.

They want to also remove the church from Irish society altogether etc ah do ya know what ive a pain in me bollox with it all .

There is so much more I could say but whats the fukin point


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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2278 on: September 25, 2020, 10:21:08 am »
Ah Dollyer do ya remember Ireland pre EEC we had Country butter salty stuff your old man brought home when he visited the inlaws .

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2279 on: September 25, 2020, 10:32:16 am »
Boredom is getting me .Dont see the taxi industry back until there is a needle to kill the cold .Applied for about 100 jobs cant even get a Dear John letter nobody interested in old men .

You right john nobody wants  to employ us middle age pensioners, ive applied for several jobs that i could and have done for many years  and not one reply back, personally i think once they see your over 50 and a taxi driver they automatically think its another obese lazy fecker looking  for handy cash for the bookies....... Oh wait..... Scrap what i just said.
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