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Title: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Justin Time on July 01, 2020, 05:24:51 pm
I see "Pandemic Payment " is trending on twitter.

Apparently the Social Welfare are asking people to contact them and to confirm if you will be continuing to avail of it.
You have to go into the mywelfare.ie and set up an account as you will be asked a number of questions to see if you meet the criteria.
"when will you be returning to work"  is one of them !

So affectively we are being forced back to work, fuk the health consequences
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 01, 2020, 05:32:52 pm
twitter when they contact me ill answer their questions .i saw on twitter the three legged man got new shoes
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: watty on July 01, 2020, 05:44:28 pm
COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment Confirmation (https://www.gov.ie/en/service/c77da-pandemic-unemployment-payment-confirmation/)
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Confirm your eligibility with us by 13 July
If you are currently in receipt of the COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment we now need you to confirm your continued entitlement to this payment.

If you don’t confirm your payment may be affected.

To continue receiving this payment you must be:
Fully unemployed - permanently or temporarily as a result of COVID-19
Or, if self-employed , your trading income has been significantly reduced
Living in the Republic of Ireland

Rate of payment (https://www.gov.ie/en/service/be74d3-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/#rate-of-payment)
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Rate of payment
The COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment will be paid at a flat rate of €350 per week until the beginning of Phase 3 of the Roadmap (June 29) .

From Phase 3 of the Roadmap (June 29) the Pandemic Unemployment Payment will be paid at two rates, aligned to prior earnings. :

For those whose prior employment earnings were €200 per week or higher (about 75% of recipients), the rate will remain at €350 per week;
For those whose prior employment earnings were up to €199.99 per week (about 25% of recipients), the rate will be €203 per week - the primary rate of payment of the Jobseeker’s Benefit scheme.
You do not need to contact the Department about your earnings. The Department has access to this information from the Revenue Commissioners.

From what time period will my earnings be examined?
This change to the rates of payment will take effect from June 29. For those who will receive the €203 rate this will be visible in your payment on Tuesday July 7.

So I guess next Tues will determine whether it's worth staying home or going back on the road.  How much did youse declare in earnings last year?  O:-)  Is this karma coming back to bite people who told fibs oops

Will they just divide our annual earnings by 52 weeks or will they pick another number and assume we take a certain amount of holidays?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 01, 2020, 05:51:17 pm
Or, if self-employed , your trading income has been significantly reduced   As the Rat said.Your income Significantly Reduced is not the same as ceased .
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 01, 2020, 06:04:52 pm
John I went into the Mygov.ie site to see what questions are being asked and this is a screenshot from the declaration.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yknM9pgx/Screenshot-2020-07-01-18-01-03-999-com-android-chrome.png) (https://postimg.cc/yknM9pgx)
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 01, 2020, 06:54:32 pm
Maybe Watty's prediction that they'd review all the applications and decide Taxi drivers were never entitled to it in the first place will be a reality, direct debits all 'round
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Shallowhal on July 01, 2020, 06:58:30 pm
Find out next Tues....hang tough!! lol
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 01, 2020, 07:05:49 pm
I should have signed off last Friday ... fuck it anyway!

The payment period of COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment is Friday to Thursday. If you close your claim to return to work and have at least one qualifying day in that period you will receive full payment for that week.

https://www.gov.ie/en/service/a5aed9-how-to-close-a-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/ (https://www.gov.ie/en/service/a5aed9-how-to-close-a-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/)
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Shallowhal on July 01, 2020, 07:10:00 pm
I should have signed off last Friday ... fuck it anyway!

I thought you were back in action....and not in traction?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 01, 2020, 07:14:36 pm
I should have signed off last Friday ... fuck it anyway!

I thought you were back in action....and not in traction?

I signed off on Monday thinking the 29th was the last day, but because I was signed on for the payment on Friday last I'll get a full weeks payment next Tuesday, i'd have preferred to be off the payment completely.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: watty on July 01, 2020, 07:24:38 pm
I'll take the money if you don't want it  :P
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 01, 2020, 07:32:22 pm
Well I have my first hospital appointment 8 am tomorrow.they want to access me to see if im suitable to begin the rehab programme.considering the number of underlying conditions I have,it may well be the case that the decision will be made for me if I cam come back to the industry or not.if im honest,a large part of me hopes they say no
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 01, 2020, 07:33:12 pm
I'll take the money if you don't want it  :P

Stupid that they give you a weeks pay for one day, and feels a bit like "sharp practice" on my part, not the kind of attention I like.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 01, 2020, 07:34:29 pm
Well I have my first hospital appointment 8 am tomorrow.they want to access me to see if im suitable to begin the rehab programme.considering the number of underlying conditions I have,it may well be the case that the decision will be made for me if I cam come back to the industry or not.if im honest,a large part of me hopes they say no

Best of luck Paul .
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 01, 2020, 07:35:47 pm
Well I have my first hospital appointment 8 am tomorrow.they want to access me to see if im suitable to begin the rehab programme.considering the number of underlying conditions I have,it may well be the case that the decision will be made for me if I cam come back to the industry or not.if im honest,a large part of me hopes they say no

so you're hoping they tell you you're fucked
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 01, 2020, 07:47:07 pm
No I already know that,im hoping they make the decision dor me if I should come back or not
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Lizzzy on July 01, 2020, 08:30:43 pm
I hope it comes to an end next week, there are lads out there making a fortune.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Shallowhal on July 01, 2020, 08:33:05 pm
Sounds like there's lads in here making a fortune!!
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Lizzzy on July 01, 2020, 08:48:38 pm
Sounds like there's lads in here making a fortune!!

Yeah Van the man and Ken the pen.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Shallowhal on July 01, 2020, 08:53:32 pm
The Starsky and Hutch of the taxi game.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Pugwat on July 01, 2020, 10:04:10 pm
Well I have my first hospital appointment 8 am tomorrow.they want to access me to see if im suitable to begin the rehab programme.considering the number of underlying conditions I have,it may well be the case that the decision will be made for me if I cam come back to the industry or not.if im honest,a large part of me hopes they say no
Take the invalidity pension and free bus pass available to you and enjoy life.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Cool Boola on July 01, 2020, 10:24:46 pm
I have allways worked to live....never lived for work!
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Justin Time on July 01, 2020, 10:32:37 pm
Well I have my first hospital appointment 8 am tomorrow.they want to access me to see if im suitable to begin the rehab programme.considering the number of underlying conditions I have,it may well be the case that the decision will be made for me if I cam come back to the industry or not.if im honest,a large part of me hopes they say no

Best of luck
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: stonethecrows on July 01, 2020, 10:50:15 pm
Well I have my first hospital appointment 8 am tomorrow.they want to access me to see if im suitable to begin the rehab programme.considering the number of underlying conditions I have,it may well be the case that the decision will be made for me if I cam come back to the industry or not.if im honest,a large part of me hopes they say no
Chin up DM, what ever is in he stars, you reach for them.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 01, 2020, 11:51:55 pm
Sounds like there's lads in here making a fortune!!

Yeah Van the man and Ken the pen.

Ye have to wonder how they do it .....unaffected by the plaugue...I have to say I am a little bit of a lazy cn..t but the tautts of drivin round an round in circles an gettin nuttin is a real terrifying prospect.....its ok if yur a licky lacky an get priority but the rest of us wen we all go back next month are in for a huge shock after sitting on our arse for 4 months drinkin cans an livin like a career dole recipient or a school teacher on summer holidays
 But I suppose the holidays are nearly over ...
But I dont want to sit in a tin car anymore an sum cnut cud kill me wit a virus .......I dont want to talk to cnuts anymore
Yu know wen they say ...." why is it 4.20 on the meter an we havnt gone anywhere "?    Or  " yur going the long way to make more money out of me "   or " are you busy" ?
Any of that shit......not only are human beins  carrying deadly diseases now  ....but ther stark raving fuking bonkers
the lot of them  ......seriously I'm not messing or being a smart arse this virus has exposed the absolute insanity of the human species .....ther all gone mad off ther trolly and now after this kung flu ther going be worser
 If I can worm me way back into the looney bin for a couple yers an hibernate until it  all blows over I mite get tru it .....but ide say the looney bin be packed to the rafters these days  so I'm probably fuked .......
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 02, 2020, 10:26:17 am
Sounds like there's lads in here making a fortune!!

Yeah Van the man and Ken the pen.

Ye have to wonder how they do it .....unaffected by the plaugue...I have to say I am a little bit of a lazy cn..t but the tautts of drivin round an round in circles an gettin nuttin is a real terrifying prospect.....its ok if yur a licky lacky an get priority but the rest of us wen we all go back next month are in for a huge shock after sitting on our arse for 4 months drinkin cans an livin like a career dole recipient or a school teacher on summer holidays
 But I suppose the holidays are nearly over ...
But I dont want to sit in a tin car anymore an sum cnut cud kill me wit a virus .......I dont want to talk to cnuts anymore
Yu know wen they say ...." why is it 4.20 on the meter an we havnt gone anywhere "?    Or  " yur going the long way to make more money out of me "   or " are you busy" ?
Any of that shit......not only are human beins  carrying deadly diseases now  ....but ther stark raving fuking bonkers
the lot of them  ......seriously I'm not messing or being a smart arse this virus has exposed the absolute insanity of the human species .....ther all gone mad off ther trolly and now after this kung flu ther going be worser
 If I can worm me way back into the looney bin for a couple yers an hibernate until it  all blows over I mite get tru it .....but ide say the looney bin be packed to the rafters these days  so I'm probably fuked .......



You forgot about the fact every person getting into the taxi with a mask on could be a planning to pull a knife on ya. make sure you can protect yourself if that happens.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Shallowhal on July 02, 2020, 10:31:09 am
You forgot about the fact every person getting into the taxi with a mask on could be a planning to pull a knife on ya. make sure you can protect yourself if that happens.

Isn't that what the screens are for!!

But you're right,i bet there will be a bit of that gonna happen!!
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Shallowhal on July 02, 2020, 10:41:02 am
Anyhoo....logged into MyGov/My Welfare....as i received a message to do so,there is an e-form to be filled in regarding the continuance of  future payments.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 02, 2020, 10:53:29 am
I'm dreading going back on the road.Not because of the virus.But I don't know how quiet/busy it will be once we're all back.

I could spend the next six months saving every spare euro working hard for a newer motor and this time next year it will be still shite.I'll have a newer reg underneath me but earning fuk all for a heap of hours.

I think the bad years of 2009/10/11/12 have scarred me brain.Dont wanna do it all over again at the mercy of an app who definitely will be raising commission again.

I'm gonna see how long I can stay on the scratcher for before I'm means tested.Maybe next year will be better..
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 02, 2020, 11:02:05 am
Anyhoo....logged into MyGov/My Welfare....as i received a message to do so,there is an e-form to be filled in regarding the continuance of  future payments.

what did they ask you?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Shallowhal on July 02, 2020, 11:11:57 am
These


(https://i.postimg.cc/T5TxqWcx/Screenshot-20200702-104429-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/T5TxqWcx)




(https://i.postimg.cc/GTb8fKCS/Screenshot-20200702-104345-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GTb8fKCS)
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 02, 2020, 11:13:29 am
I'm dreading going back on the road.Not because of the virus.But I don't know how quiet/busy it will be once we're all back.

I could spend the next six months saving every spare euro working hard for a newer motor and this time next year it will be still shite.I'll have a newer reg underneath me but earning fuk all for a heap of hours.

I think the bad years of 2009/10/11/12 have scarred me brain.Dont wanna do it all over again at the mercy of an app who definitely will be raising commission again.

I'm gonna see how long I can stay on the scratcher for before I'm means tested.Maybe next year will be better..

You can go back and give it a try without losing a payment
Sign off the payment on Monday (you'll have worked one day (Friday) and will therefore be entitled to one weeks payment, then on the following Thursday sign back on if it's crap, this will give you proof positive when filling in the welfare form that you are entitled to the payment
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 02, 2020, 11:14:19 am
These


(https://i.postimg.cc/T5TxqWcx/Screenshot-20200702-104429-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/T5TxqWcx)




(https://i.postimg.cc/GTb8fKCS/Screenshot-20200702-104345-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GTb8fKCS)

It's a shame you didn't screenshot the questions
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Justin Time on July 02, 2020, 11:22:11 am
I'm dreading going back on the road.Not because of the virus.But I don't know how quiet/busy it will be once we're all back.

I could spend the next six months saving every spare euro working hard for a newer motor and this time next year it will be still shite.I'll have a newer reg underneath me but earning fuk all for a heap of hours.

I think the bad years of 2009/10/11/12 have scarred me brain.Dont wanna do it all over again at the mercy of an app who definitely will be raising commission again.

I'm gonna see how long I can stay on the scratcher for before I'm means tested.Maybe next year will be better..

I agree completely.
The 2008 2009 2010 plus were horrible times.

I can honestly say, it had a profound affect on my mental health. I really dont know what to expect when I go back,the thoughts of it are worrying.

To add, I spoke with a colleague I met by chance the other day and he was telling me of a fella who was back working (dont know why ??!!) He  went out at 745am and by 5pm he had 21 Euro.

Thats 21 Euro.


Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 02, 2020, 11:28:27 am
I'm dreading going back on the road.Not because of the virus.But I don't know how quiet/busy it will be once we're all back.

I could spend the next six months saving every spare euro working hard for a newer motor and this time next year it will be still shite.I'll have a newer reg underneath me but earning fuk all for a heap of hours.

I think the bad years of 2009/10/11/12 have scarred me brain.Dont wanna do it all over again at the mercy of an app who definitely will be raising commission again.

I'm gonna see how long I can stay on the scratcher for before I'm means tested.Maybe next year will be better..

I agree completely.
The 2008 2009 2010 plus were horrible times.

I can honestly say, it had a profound affect on my mental health. I really dont know what to expect when I go back,the thoughts of it are worrying.

To add, I spoke with a colleague I met by chance the other day and he was telling me of a fella who was back working (dont know why ??!!) He  went out at 745am and by 5pm he had 21 Euro.

Thats 21 Euro.

I'd say the Kesh is moving along now, if you're driving around the streets waiting for a hail and are not with a dispatcher or don't have your own bookings ,,, forget it.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: vandriver on July 02, 2020, 11:29:27 am
I've been back a month,and while it's slow,it's not that slow.
However,if the taxi driver in question is a man of a certain age who sits on his favourite rank because that's what he's always done,then he could certainly make fuck all,because the game has changed.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Justin Time on July 02, 2020, 11:32:15 am
I'm dreading going back on the road.Not because of the virus.But I don't know how quiet/busy it will be once we're all back.

I could spend the next six months saving every spare euro working hard for a newer motor and this time next year it will be still shite.I'll have a newer reg underneath me but earning fuk all for a heap of hours.

I think the bad years of 2009/10/11/12 have scarred me brain.Dont wanna do it all over again at the mercy of an app who definitely will be raising commission again.

I'm gonna see how long I can stay on the scratcher for before I'm means tested.Maybe next year will be better..

I agree completely.
The 2008 2009 2010 plus were horrible times.

I can honestly say, it had a profound affect on my mental health. I really dont know what to expect when I go back,the thoughts of it are worrying.

To add, I spoke with a colleague I met by chance the other day and he was telling me of a fella who was back working (dont know why ??!!) He  went out at 745am and by 5pm he had 21 Euro.

Thats 21 Euro.

I'd say the Kesh is moving along now, if you're driving around the streets waiting for a hail and are not with a dispatcher or don't have your own bookings ,,, forget it.

Not quite sure how the kesh is doing presently.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Shallowhal on July 02, 2020, 11:40:40 am
Ryanair might well be doin a 1000 flights a day.....how many passengers will be on them is another thing,Aer Lingus the same,flights from the infested US of A have continued unabated but we're told not to make journeys.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Punter on July 02, 2020, 11:50:30 am
The planes are going because the tickets were sold months ago and if they dont go they have to give the cash back --try booking a flight for this w/e and see the price-punters dont bother cancelling as rebooking is as much again-the US flights are mostly repatriation but as with European Flight --ticket sold so empty seats--with  business class full of the aircrew to fly the plane back as there are no lay overs for crew--they dont leave the plane !
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 02, 2020, 11:57:32 am
Ryanair might well be doin a 1000 flights a day.....how many passengers will be on them is another thing,Aer Lingus the same,flights from the infested US of A have continued unabated but we're told not to make journeys.

I've been out to the airport 3/4 times a day since Tuesday (twice on Monday). the ramp has been busy today and yesterday, Kesh half full

People going home to their families, a little bit of business travel, one holiday maker off to Amsterdam, tomorrows OK as well
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Justin Time on July 02, 2020, 12:19:07 pm
Ryanair might well be doin a 1000 flights a day.....how many passengers will be on them is another thing,Aer Lingus the same,flights from the infested US of A have continued unabated but we're told not to make journeys.

I've been out to the airport 3/4 times a day since Tuesday (twice on Monday). the ramp has been busy today and yesterday, Kesh half full

People going home to their families, a little bit of business travel, one holiday maker off to Amsterdam, tomorrows OK as well

Kesh "half full" or "half empty" ?
 ;)
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 02, 2020, 12:56:56 pm
You forgot about the fact every person getting into the taxi with a mask on could be a planning to pull a knife on ya. make sure you can protect yourself if that happens.

Isn't that what the screens are for!!

But you're right,i bet there will be a bit of that gonna happen!!


Sure one good kick and them screens will fall to pieces or they could just use a gun.

I filled out the covid form yesterday, there was only about 3 questions, the main one was when are you going to go back working, i said this month. pointless.

I would be too worried about it being quiet yet, sure the pubs haven't even opened yet, lets see what happens when they do.


Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 02, 2020, 01:10:52 pm
I told them I'm staying out for another 3 months. I've a funny feeling we'll be in lockdown again before Christmas. I think they're just letting the kids out of their cots for a few weeks before they put us back in again before Christmas.  They had to. The place would be smashed up if they didn't.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 02, 2020, 01:18:07 pm
I'm dreading going back on the road.Not because of the virus.But I don't know how quiet/busy it will be once we're all back.

I could spend the next six months saving every spare euro working hard for a newer motor and this time next year it will be still shite.I'll have a newer reg underneath me but earning fuk all for a heap of hours.

I think the bad years of 2009/10/11/12 have scarred me brain.Dont wanna do it all over again at the mercy of an app who definitely will be raising commission again.

I'm gonna see how long I can stay on the scratcher for before I'm means tested.Maybe next year will be better..

"Dont want to do it all over again "


That says it all for me ........
It's like I had to do 10 rounds with Muhammad ali but  I got him wit a sucker punch in the first round an floored the bollix .......
But now he wants a rematch an I'm shitin meself  rofl
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: whoslast on July 02, 2020, 03:11:31 pm
Got a notification from the welfare that they’re cutting my Covid payment to the €200 based on my income returns for 2018, bastards
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: vandriver on July 02, 2020, 03:17:15 pm
Did you earn less than 3 ton a week?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Shallowhal on July 02, 2020, 03:22:29 pm
Got a notification from the welfare that they’re cutting my Covid payment to the €200 based on my income returns for 2018, bastards

How much did you earn in 2018?....asking for a friend!! lol
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: whoslast on July 02, 2020, 03:35:26 pm
Put it this way, if your earnings were €199 or below you’re cut to €203, if you earned €200 or over you’ll keep the €350
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Justin Time on July 02, 2020, 04:07:16 pm
Got a notification from the welfare that they’re cutting my Covid payment to the €200 based on my income returns for 2018, bastards

Just got a mail from them now to say "your form has been successfully submitted, you do not need to do anything further at this time"

Am I to expect a "notification" in the coming days telling me what Im entitled to or no?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 02, 2020, 04:19:00 pm
Whoslast how did they inform you?Your regular email address or via the mygov.ie site.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: whoslast on July 02, 2020, 04:20:58 pm
Whoslast how did they inform you?Your regular email address or via the mygov.ie site.

Got an email telling me I had a new notification on the mygov.ie site, logged on to that and there it was
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 02, 2020, 04:22:23 pm
Ok thanks I'm expecting the bad news myself soon.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 02, 2020, 04:22:31 pm
I got an email off them mfh, to the original email that I started the claim from. There's a link in the email, log in, confirm some stuff, name, dob, rsi, mothers maiden name, address, eircode, how long you think you'll go back to work, 1 month, 3 months or 6 months, submit and done.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: whoslast on July 02, 2020, 04:27:26 pm
Actually the notification is on https://www.mywelfare.ie (https://www.mywelfare.ie) if you haven’t set up an account you mightn’t get the notification
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 02, 2020, 05:42:06 pm
Just got the text asking me to fill out the form even though I signed off the payment on Monday last, I assume I don't need to fill it in?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 02, 2020, 06:28:54 pm
I've got that form to fill in ....I keep filling it in and it keeps coming back again .....4 times now
I think wer it says wen you going back ? I say I dont know wen .....is that the problem or wat ....
There going say now I didnt fill it in if this keeps up
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Belker on July 02, 2020, 06:43:47 pm
I should have signed off last Friday ... fuck it anyway!

I thought you were back in action....and not in traction?

I signed off on Monday thinking the 29th was the last day, but because I was signed on for the payment on Friday last I'll get a full weeks payment next Tuesday, i'd have preferred to be off the payment completely.
I'm not good at all this tax and welfare stuff, but I signed off the Covid payment after getting my Third 350 on a Tuesday, I signed off online just after midnight on Wed morning and did not get paid anymore.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Belker on July 02, 2020, 07:45:37 pm
I've been back a month,and while it's slow,it's not that slow.
However,if the taxi driver in question is a man of a certain age who sits on his favourite rank because that's what he's always done,then he could certainly make fuck all,because the game has changed.
The Game has changed and changed Big Time. I'm 10 weeks back at work with 10 FN Gold stars in a row behind me fer the simple reason that it is the only work out there fer me. You can sit on the best rank in your city/town all day and night and make Fook all, or you can adapt to the situation and make a decent living with FN, or join a dispatcher with a HSE contract or do a 'Roy' job.
Fer those with the temperate of; 'Fook the Dispatchers', 'Fook the Apps', 'Fook the Nazi multinational', I can work the streets and ranks all by myself !
You are in fer some Rude awaking when you return to work !
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 02, 2020, 08:47:47 pm
Just got the text asking me to fill out the form even though I signed off the payment on Monday last, I assume I don't need to fill it in?


when I finished college a few years ago I was unemployed for a while. The social welfare were asking me in to different meetings about getting a job, I canceled one meeting with them because I was going to rag week (obviously I didn't tell them that) and the meeting was rescheduled for 2 weeks later.

 In the meantime I got a job, so rang the social welfare on the morning of the meeting and told them I was supposed to go in for a meeting about getting a job but I got a job so wouldn't be going to the meeting. The woman from social welfare says ok so why cant you come in? ah because I got a job lol maybe they are bigger ejits than the NTA.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 02, 2020, 08:53:35 pm
or you can allow yourself to be rode to hell and back with 15 % commission,and 35% discounts,which will soon become 20% commission,see how your gold stars in your copy book mean then
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: vandriver on July 02, 2020, 09:51:07 pm
You've been banging this drum for a long time now.What realistic alternative do you have?(And don't say 'the streets' because people have moved on,and you've been left behind)
The customer wants a fully trackable and traceable taxi.The customer wants to pay by card,or have an account.
We have to go along with it or get left behind,sitting on a rank bitching about how the old days were better.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 02, 2020, 10:24:00 pm
He’s old school.
Can’t move with the times.
Wants everyone to go out on the street to hail a cab.
Did I see in some post he’s retirement age soon.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 02, 2020, 10:41:02 pm
You've been banging this drum for a long time now.What realistic alternative do you have?(And don't say 'the streets' because people have moved on,and you've been left behind)
The customer wants a fully trackable and traceable taxi.The customer wants to pay by card,or have an account.
We have to go along with it or get left behind,sitting on a rank bitching about how the old days were better.




You could concentrate on getting regular customers or just work when its busy enough to just work from hails and ranks.

Get in with a hospital or nursing home. move to a town where apps aren't used.

those pricks free now will be taking 50% off drivers in a few years.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 02, 2020, 10:46:46 pm
You've been banging this drum for a long time now.What realistic alternative do you have?(And don't say 'the streets' because people have moved on,and you've been left behind)
The customer wants a fully trackable and traceable taxi.The customer wants to pay by card,or have an account.
We have to go along with it or get left behind,sitting on a rank bitching about how the old days were better.




You could concentrate on getting regular customers or just work when its busy enough to just work from hails and ranks.

Get in with a hospital or nursing home. move to a town where apps aren't used.

those pricks free now will be taking 50% off drivers in a few years.

FFS
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: silverbullet on July 02, 2020, 10:47:15 pm
He’s old school.
Can’t move with the times.
Wants everyone to go out on the street to hail a cab.
Did I see in some post he’s retirement age soon.
Dalymount is post de-reg.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 02, 2020, 10:48:55 pm
Hes old school ? Only 13 years in the game hardly old school
He wont move with the times? working for to achieve paying a commission of 15 % soon to be 20% whenever FN decide to bounce you around in addition to 35 % discounts to medical staff,is this what you call not moving with the times ?
I read he is near retirement age ?I have actually passes retirement age,and unlike you I can stop any time I like without having to sell my sole to FN does that address all your comments ?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 02, 2020, 10:49:33 pm
You've been banging this drum for a long time now.What realistic alternative do you have?(And don't say 'the streets' because people have moved on,and you've been left behind)
The customer wants a fully trackable and traceable taxi.The customer wants to pay by card,or have an account.
We have to go along with it or get left behind,sitting on a rank bitching about how the old days were better.







You could concentrate on getting regular customers or just work when its busy enough to just work from hails and ranks.

Get in with a hospital or nursing home. move to a town where apps aren't used.

those pricks free now will be taking 50% off drivers in a few years.

FFS



They will. and ye will be out protesting about it lol.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: vandriver on July 02, 2020, 10:57:52 pm
Hes old school ? Only 13 years in the game hardly old school
He wont move with the times? working for to achieve paying a commission of 15 % soon to be 20% whenever FN decide to bounce you around in addition to 35 % discounts to medical staff,is this what you call not moving with the times ?
I read he is near retirement age ?I have actually passes retirement age,and unlike you I can stop any time I like without having to sell my sole to FN does that address all your comments ?
Horses for courses,then.You Potter around town picking up the odd cash fare,and I and many like me will continue to use the apps,to hit well into 4 figures every week, because that's what income I and others need.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 02, 2020, 11:06:37 pm
You will dig your own grave working for the apps. The reason I got into setting up a taxi business was to be my own boss, I never accept an offer of a run unless I can price it myself, you either let me name my price or get lost, im not working for anyone ever again.

id rather do no runs than do a trip as an employee for another taxi firm.


your 4 figures wont last with free now, they aren't in business to make you rich. Uber in the U.S. barely pay their drivers minimum wage.



Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 02, 2020, 11:08:54 pm
He’s only good for taking people home from the rank.
“You show I go”
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 02, 2020, 11:12:30 pm
You will dig your own grave working for the apps. The reason I got into setting up a taxi business was to be my own boss, I never accept an offer of a run unless I can price it myself, you either let me name my price or get lost, im not working for anyone ever again.

id rather do no runs than do a trip as an employee for another taxi firm.


your 4 figures wont last with free now, they aren't in business to make you rich. Uber in the U.S. barely pay their drivers minimum wage.

I became self employed first to make money.
To be my own boss never came into the equation.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 02, 2020, 11:22:13 pm
Unlike you,I actually AM self emploted.how can you possibly call yourself self employed if your prepared to allow a dispatchet direct tour business by dictating what discounts you will offer to the public.is it because your yet another one on here who doesn't have the capability or initiative' to run your own business,and constantly needs to be told what to do ?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 02, 2020, 11:24:54 pm
go out and find your own work ffs,and stop trying to be like kennywho gets his buzz on gold stars from the teacher..
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 02, 2020, 11:39:13 pm
A bit of jealousy I’d say.
Drivers making good money and you making Fook all.
Go sit on the rank.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 02, 2020, 11:42:45 pm
You will dig your own grave working for the apps. The reason I got into setting up a taxi business was to be my own boss, I never accept an offer of a run unless I can price it myself, you either let me name my price or get lost, im not working for anyone ever again.

id rather do no runs than do a trip as an employee for another taxi firm.


your 4 figures wont last with free now, they aren't in business to make you rich. Uber in the U.S. barely pay their drivers minimum wage.

I became self employed first to make money.
To be my own boss never came into the equation.



I have always said id rather make 30,000 a year self employed than 100,000 a year as an employee.

You will always make money if you are self employed and have a good work ethic and a bit of cop on.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 02, 2020, 11:45:08 pm
A bit of jealousy I’d say.
Drivers making good money and you making Fook all.
Go sit on the rank.


I don't think it is jealousy, its not like he cant just download the app and make as much as you guys are making.

Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 02, 2020, 11:46:02 pm
Enough said
Your some prick
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: silverbullet on July 03, 2020, 12:00:06 am
You will dig your own grave working for the apps. The reason I got into setting up a taxi business was to be my own boss, I never accept an offer of a run unless I can price it myself, you either let me name my price or get lost, im not working for anyone ever again.

id rather do no runs than do a trip as an employee for another taxi firm.


your 4 figures wont last with free now, they aren't in business to make you rich. Uber in the U.S. barely pay their drivers minimum wage.

I became self employed first to make money.
To be my own boss never came into the equation.



I have always said id rather make 30,000 a year self employed than 100,000 a year as an employee.

You will always make money if you are self employed and have a good work ethic and a bit of cop on.
Does the cop on mean not working during a pandemic?

asking for a friend.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 03, 2020, 12:04:02 am
You will dig your own grave working for the apps. The reason I got into setting up a taxi business was to be my own boss, I never accept an offer of a run unless I can price it myself, you either let me name my price or get lost, im not working for anyone ever again.

id rather do no runs than do a trip as an employee for another taxi firm.


your 4 figures wont last with free now, they aren't in business to make you rich. Uber in the U.S. barely pay their drivers minimum wage.

I became self employed first to make money.
To be my own boss never came into the equation.



I have always said id rather make 30,000 a year self employed than 100,000 a year as an employee.

You will always make money if you are self employed and have a good work ethic and a bit of cop on.
Does the cop on mean not working during a pandemic?

asking for a friend.


Yes if it is better financially for you. I couldn't give a $hit about getting the virus.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: U Wha on July 03, 2020, 01:46:45 am
Sounds like there's lads in here making a fortune!!

Yeah Van the man and Ken the pen.

Ye have to wonder how they do it .....unaffected by the plaugue...I have to say I am a little bit of a lazy cn..t but the tautts of drivin round an round in circles an gettin nuttin is a real terrifying prospect.....its ok if yur a licky lacky an get priority but the rest of us wen we all go back next month are in for a huge shock after sitting on our arse for 4 months drinkin cans an livin like a career dole recipient or a school teacher on summer holidays
 But I suppose the holidays are nearly over ...
But I dont want to sit in a tin car anymore an sum cnut cud kill me wit a virus .......I dont want to talk to cnuts anymore
Yu know wen they say ...." why is it 4.20 on the meter an we havnt gone anywhere "?    Or  " yur going the long way to make more money out of me "   or " are you busy" ?
Any of that shit......not only are human beins  carrying deadly diseases now  ....but ther stark raving fuking bonkers
the lot of them  ......seriously I'm not messing or being a smart arse this virus has exposed the absolute insanity of the human species .....ther all gone mad off ther trolly and now after this kung flu ther going be worser
 If I can worm me way back into the looney bin for a couple yers an hibernate until it  all blows over I mite get tru it .....but ide say the looney bin be packed to the rafters these days  so I'm probably fuked .......
+1
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: U Wha on July 03, 2020, 02:32:17 am
He’s old school.
Can’t move with the times.
Wants everyone to go out on the street to hail a cab.
Did I see in some post he’s retirement age soon.

Old school union head alright. Ex P&T, Telecom eireann, Eircom or Eir but relatively new to the taxi game but still carrying that entitled union sentiment. 

Not that I have a problem with that. In an ideal world it would be great. But the taxi game isnt an ideal world.

Most of us are anti establishment for what ever reason and dont like being told what to do. So we are content to work as spsv taxi drivers with the idea that we are in charge of our own lives, But as the comedian Jimmy Carr said "I was in a taxi today and the driver said "I love my job, I'm my own boss. Nobody tells me what to do", Then I said "Turn left".

But at end of day we aren't all little marxists who believe in solidarity. We are technically 'Self employed' competitors. Competing for the same work in a market environment, supply and demand (Erm will explain it to you).

Passengers dont want to stand at the side of the road in the pissing rain hoping a maxi will pass and if it does it probably wont stop especially in the early hours. They are much happier to sit inside and track their taxi, pay by card and rate the driver well for no lectures during the journey.

So, Dalyer unfortunately your vision will never come to pass.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 03, 2020, 08:45:46 am
Well surprisingly enough,I WANT as  many dispatchers as possible to enter the market.including uber ,bolt,and ALL the big players.I sincerely hope that every big company comes.if that happens,you will soon come to the realization,that YOU wont survive either because their will be so much competition,that you would want to have a four leaf clover to get any work.they will all be undercutting each other AT YOUR EXPENSE,even if your lucky to get a hob in the first place,and maybe THEN it will dawn on all you dispatch lovers,that YOU actually handed the game to them on a plate,and now your their bitch.I wont give a fukk,cause ill be gone
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 03, 2020, 09:24:52 am
Still has his ESOP money.
Go join a base and come back to his when you know something about them.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 03, 2020, 10:39:19 am
Dont need to know anything about them,other that youll be working for little or nothing when the market becomes flooded with dispatchers,and youll be glad to work with a 50 % discount dispatch firm just to try and survive,while I have my eircom pension ,my state pension,my household benefits pakage ,my esop money ( as you rightly pointed out) no PSV insurance to pay,no income tax,suitability,NCT,etc ill have all of these things while you,and your likes compete with kenny for gold stars in you copy books,and aa pat on the head from your dispatcher masters.so who do you think is moving on me or tou ?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 03, 2020, 11:16:14 am
Freenow are only interested in capturing the whole taxi market customer base .....they are close to a monopoly
Wen that is achieved.....theyll be lobbying the new green Government to make the taxi industry complete electric....eamon moron ryan will jump at the chance an freenow will supply a fleet of bmw an daimler  vw or watever cars they own to the market ......ryan will wit the stroke of a pen ban diesel an petrol cars in the taxi business an at the stroke of a pen allow freenow (daimler, bmw) to replace privately owned independent taxis .....
That's the future...taxi drivers will then be given a minimum wage ....they will all be immigrants who work for minimum wage and no benifits and one false move or scratch on the vehicle or a customer complaint they be  replaced .....
Some of u dont care about the future of the business because you operate from a fully selfish viewpoint of the world and have calculated that by the time change comes ....yull be retired .....but yu have no regard for the legacy you are leaving to future generations or your part in changing society in such a negative way .....your rationale is we are all competitors and must fuk each other over to survive and any other way of thinking is communism.......
Theres a lot more to life than your bank account...wat about the sovereignty of your own country and the future of your kids in ireland ...
This country is bean sold bit by bit little by little ...the day will arrive wen yur children will be renting ther  home off some foreign bank for the rest of ther lives and paying 3/4 of ther wages for the privilege . Theyll be slaves to foreign banks and multinationals ....
Why is that so ?
Why is it that Germany is actively encouraging immigration ( dirt cheap slaves ) to Europe?
Why are  my nephews and nieces ( all of them without exception with master degrees in teaching, engineering,  architecture)  renting apartments at highly exorbitant prices and with zero prospect of ever owning ther own home ..
Who has allowed that to happen?  freenow has control now of your customers.....who allowed that to happen?
The Irish government allowed it to happen ....a highly regulated essential public service  run by a multinational.....an absolute fucking disgrace
Who allows fakebook and google to come here and purchase a whole new unfinished apartment block
The Irish government
There is no doubt that the smart phone  taxi hailing application is an essential part of the taxi business and will
Continue to be so but why has the control of it bein given away to a foreign multinational wen it is giving away control of our livelihoods?  You go into your licence renewal with an out of date fire extinguisher and see wat happens but bmw is allowed to take control of your customers and livelihoods and dictate who is going to get that customer and at wat price they are going to charge you for the privilege with zero government intervention....I know I'm a mad cnut but I just cant get my head around any of that
The app  shud be run by the people of ireland for the people of ireland
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 03, 2020, 11:19:22 am
Dont need to know anything about them,other that youll be working for little or nothing when the market becomes flooded with dispatchers,and youll be glad to work with a 50 % discount dispatch firm just to try and survive,while I have my eircom pension ,my state pension,my household benefits pakage ,my esop money ( as you rightly pointed out) no PSV insurance to pay,no income tax,suitability,NCT,etc ill have all of these things while you,and your likes compete with kenny for gold stars in you copy books,and aa pat on the head from your dispatcher masters.so who do you think is moving on me or tou ?
Do you really want to give all of the pre book work to Hacks and Limos or do you expect them to go out of business too?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 03, 2020, 11:33:37 am
Toao I really dont care,as my last line says,ill be gone.the dispatch lovers handed,or will hand the game to dispatchers on a plate,and in so doing,took away the right of taxi drivers to operate independently,and will destroy themselves into the bargain.they have ,or will have eventually  give absolute ,and complete control of the industry,I have no doubt this will become apparent to drivers in the event of time.i have no desire to be part of an industry which is actully NOT sekf employed
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 03, 2020, 11:38:45 am
Toao I really dont care,as my last line says,ill be gone.the dispatch lovers handed,or will hand the game to dispatchers on a plate,and in so doing,took away the right of taxi drivers to operate independently,and will destroy themselves into the bargain.they have ,or will have eventually  give absolute ,and complete control of the industry,I have no doubt this will become apparent to drivers in the event of time.i have no desire to be part of an industry which is actully NOT sekf employed

Dispatchers have always been an essential part of the business, otherwise pre-booked fares would go elsewhere, campaigning to give a huge portion of our work to hackneys is simply stupid.
That has alway been apparent to most taxi drivers
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 03, 2020, 11:44:49 am
I don’t know where you are getting your information from about 50% discounts.
You know Fook all about dispatchers and FreeNow.
Few drivers deffo taking the piss out of you.
The fool on the taxi rank.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Justin Time on July 03, 2020, 11:54:44 am
Dont need to know anything about them,other that youll be working for little or nothing when the market becomes flooded with dispatchers,and youll be glad to work with a 50 % discount dispatch firm just to try and survive,while I have my eircom pension ,my state pension,my household benefits pakage ,my esop money ( as you rightly pointed out) no PSV insurance to pay,no income tax,suitability,NCT,etc ill have all of these things while you,and your likes compete with kenny for gold stars in you copy books,and aa pat on the head from your dispatcher masters.so who do you think is moving on me or tou ?

Hang on, you have an "eircom pension" a "state pension" ,your household benefits package" your "esop money " and you're STILL working as a taxi driver??

and you an anti capitalist, right winger who doesnt believe in liberalism????!!!!!

 rofl rofl rofl 

Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 03, 2020, 11:56:34 am
I'm going back to work next month, mainly because I'm losing my sanity sitting around.  The honeymoon period is well and truly over.  I plan on trying to work like I used to with most of my fares from the streets or rank and minimal use of the app. If however I find i can't make my wages well then I will have to roll with the times and probably sticker up and become a lickey lackey or one of Ken's mates. I'll work like that as long as I'm getting a good hourly return.  If or when it gets to a stage that I'm not getting a good hourly return (between 20 or 30 quid) then I'll throw in the towel on the taxi game. Looking at it short term is all I can do for now.  I'll try not to have to turn into a ken but needs must and all that. So roll on next month.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Hugh Jenob on July 03, 2020, 12:01:25 pm
Pascal muttering about extending the puppy payment today.
Wonder if it will lead them paying out beyond August 10th? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200703/06a416c4592351dfe5a463be9a0354a4.jpg)

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Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 03, 2020, 12:02:06 pm
You reckon I know nothing about dispatchers ? Is it not the case that they take 15 % commisiin from drivers ?  Is it not the case that FN offered 50 % discount to madical staff ? Is it not the case that traditional dispatchers  told you what to wear ie ( uniforms) what to charge ( discounts) and actually DISCIPLINED drivers by knocking them off the system if the gave back heavily discounted work ?is it not accepted by most drivers that work went out the back door  to cronies,is it not the case that one such dispatch operater blackmailed drivers by blocking them getting insurance if they didnt subscribe to his union,the list goes on
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 03, 2020, 12:06:43 pm
Dont need to know anything about them,other that youll be working for little or nothing when the market becomes flooded with dispatchers,and youll be glad to work with a 50 % discount dispatch firm just to try and survive,while I have my eircom pension ,my state pension,my household benefits pakage ,my esop money ( as you rightly pointed out) no PSV insurance to pay,no income tax,suitability,NCT,etc ill have all of these things while you,and your likes compete with kenny for gold stars in you copy books,and aa pat on the head from your dispatcher masters.so who do you think is moving on me or tou ?

Hang on, you have an "eircom pension" a "state pension" ,your household benefits package" your "esop money " and you're STILL working as a taxi driver??

and you an anti capitalist, right winger who doesnt believe in liberalism????!!!!!

 rofl rofl rofl
you got in one sunshine
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 03, 2020, 12:12:47 pm
You reckon I know nothing about dispatchers ? Is it not the case that they take 15 % commisiin from drivers ?  Is it not the case that FN offered 50 % discount to madical staff ? Is it not the case that traditional dispatchers  told you what to wear ie ( uniforms) what to charge ( discounts) and actually DISCIPLINED drivers by knocking them off the system if the gave back heavily discounted work ?is it not accepted by most drivers that work went out the back door  to cronies,is it not the case that one such dispatch operater blackmailed drivers by blocking them getting insurance if they didnt subscribe to his union,the list goes on

None of that removes the fact that if Taxis did not have dispatchers then all the pre-booked work would go to Hacks.
Drivers know the terms by which various dispatchers acquire the work and must abide by those terms if they wish to accept it.
Drivers can choose which dispatcher to work with based on the terms they offer
Dispatchers are an essential part of the service, some may manage without them but if they weren't there, they wouldn't manage
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Shallowhal on July 03, 2020, 12:30:48 pm
And no one is dragging you into Antos or Vinnos places
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 03, 2020, 12:46:25 pm
 Ah well go on then ,fight for your gold badges like Ken.next week ,if yis are really good,yis can even bring donuts in tp anto ,and vinny.FN already got theirs from Kenny
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 03, 2020, 01:10:08 pm
it may be a case of having to go with one or the other though dm. Word on the street is that there's no street or rank work so it looks like we don't have a choice. Stickers maybe. Doughnuts never.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 03, 2020, 01:12:41 pm
You reckon I know nothing about dispatchers ? Is it not the case that they take 15 % commisiin from drivers ?  Is it not the case that FN offered 50 % discount to madical staff ? Is it not the case that traditional dispatchers  told you what to wear ie ( uniforms) what to charge ( discounts) and actually DISCIPLINED drivers by knocking them off the system if the gave back heavily discounted work ?is it not accepted by most drivers that work went out the back door  to cronies,is it not the case that one such dispatch operater blackmailed drivers by blocking them getting insurance if they didnt subscribe to his union,the list goes on

Yer only hearing all this gossip from the ranks.
You know nothing about it.
Your just the fool on the rank only good for taking people home.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: silverbullet on July 03, 2020, 01:34:51 pm
You reckon I know nothing about dispatchers ? Is it not the case that they take 15 % commisiin from drivers ?  Is it not the case that FN offered 50 % discount to madical staff ? Is it not the case that traditional dispatchers  told you what to wear ie ( uniforms) what to charge ( discounts) and actually DISCIPLINED drivers by knocking them off the system if the gave back heavily discounted work ?is it not accepted by most drivers that work went out the back door  to cronies,is it not the case that one such dispatch operater blackmailed drivers by blocking them getting insurance if they didnt subscribe to his union,the list goes on

None of that removes the fact that if Taxis did not have dispatchers then all the pre-booked work would go to Hacks.
Drivers know the terms by which various dispatchers acquire the work and must abide by those terms if they wish to accept it.
Drivers can choose which dispatcher to work with based on the terms they offer
Dispatchers are an essential part of the service, some may manage without them but if they weren't there, they wouldn't manage
I  watch wild birds at my feeders. The parents bring their fledglings to the feeders and feed them little peanuts and sunflower seeds .
It's lovely watching the young flapping their wings in the hope of a tasty morsel.

Soon after the fledgling birds are left to fend for themselves.

They feel independent yet only feed at my station.

It's the same with indentured taxi drivers. 8)
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 03, 2020, 01:42:18 pm
You reckon I know nothing about dispatchers ? Is it not the case that they take 15 % commisiin from drivers ?  Is it not the case that FN offered 50 % discount to madical staff ? Is it not the case that traditional dispatchers  told you what to wear ie ( uniforms) what to charge ( discounts) and actually DISCIPLINED drivers by knocking them off the system if the gave back heavily discounted work ?is it not accepted by most drivers that work went out the back door  to cronies,is it not the case that one such dispatch operater blackmailed drivers by blocking them getting insurance if they didnt subscribe to his union,the list goes on

Yer only hearing all this gossip from the ranks.
You know nothing about it.
Your just the fool on the rank only good for taking people home.



That is the whole idea of working as a taxi. :P

what do you do? bring them for dinner, or go clubbing with them or something?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 03, 2020, 01:55:04 pm
it may be a case of having to go with one or the other though dm. Word on the street is that there's no street or rank work so it looks like we don't have a choice. Stickers maybe. Doughnuts never.
there is always a choice horse.the choice is to pretend your self employed when your actually not. Your being run by a company who YOU actually employ to find you work.if that company starts acting the bollox like FN,and traditional dispatchers,then you tell them to go fukk themselves.but unfortunately some on here would rather bow the knee and work for 50%  off the metered fare at their own expense,then stand up like a man and go and find their own work.they have handed the game to dispatchers,not out of a sense of goodwill towards the customer,but out of a sense of not being able to function on their own Initieve they NEED to be told what to do
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 03, 2020, 02:03:30 pm
I know where you're coming from dm, believe me, just ask ken how much abuse I gave him for being one of their bum boys. Unfortunately we have to look at the reality of whats happening.  This disease has changed everything.  Word is there is no street or rank work, certainly not enough to make a living from. The old days are gone. So I'm looking at possibly becoming a bum boy too, like ken, just so I can survive in this industry.  Sad, yes. Reality,  yes. Am I happy about it, no.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 03, 2020, 02:09:42 pm
You reckon I know nothing about dispatchers ? Is it not the case that they take 15 % commisiin from drivers ?  Is it not the case that FN offered 50 % discount to madical staff ? Is it not the case that traditional dispatchers  told you what to wear ie ( uniforms) what to charge ( discounts) and actually DISCIPLINED drivers by knocking them off the system if the gave back heavily discounted work ?is it not accepted by most drivers that work went out the back door  to cronies,is it not the case that one such dispatch operater blackmailed drivers by blocking them getting insurance if they didnt subscribe to his union,the list goes on

Yer only hearing all this gossip from the ranks.
You know nothing about it.
Your just the fool on the rank only good for taking people home.



That is the whole idea of working as a taxi. :P

what do you do? bring them for dinner, or go clubbing with them or something?

That’s the difference when you work with a dispatch company.
So much other work than just taking people home like you.
Who brings the punters into the City, Airport, train station.
Who do you think services the hotels, multi national companies, corporate accounts, HSE accounts
As I said yer only good for taking people home.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 03, 2020, 02:18:27 pm
I wish you luck if thats what you chose to do horse,but alll the bolloxoligy about dispatchers being essential is rubbish.if there were no dispatchers,people would be only to glad to walk out to the street ti hail a cab.God knows there is enough of us,so they wont be waiting long.as far as I can see ,and ive said it many times,we can operate without them,but they cannot operate without us..all this crap that is put up here about the person who lives in the back of beyond ,and has a ten mile walk out to the main road to get a taxi.those people account for about a half% of our business,and in most cases FN drivers wony collect them anyway cause its off the beaten track.its game set and match to dispatchers ,and they won the game with the assistance of the drivers who played into their hands .my hope is now,that the game will become so flooded with dispatchers,from all over the kip,that anyone who gets a fare at all will be eternally grateful,and will be prepered to,work for a fraction of what the meter says because of pressure from all the rest.they have handed the game to dispatchers,and very soon to the customers who will demand 75 % off the fare or they will go to one of the 50 other dispatchers that I hope will be operating.I dont give a fukk,because ill be gone from the game
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 03, 2020, 02:28:26 pm
I'll try and hang in for a while dm, but you're right, the bum boys and doughnut men handed it over ages ago. Unfortunately it seems I'll have to be a bum boy too to survive.  One thing i won't be though is a doughnut man, I'd rather starve. Best of luck with whatever you decide too dm.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 03, 2020, 02:53:31 pm
You reckon I know nothing about dispatchers ? Is it not the case that they take 15 % commisiin from drivers ?  Is it not the case that FN offered 50 % discount to madical staff ? Is it not the case that traditional dispatchers  told you what to wear ie ( uniforms) what to charge ( discounts) and actually DISCIPLINED drivers by knocking them off the system if the gave back heavily discounted work ?is it not accepted by most drivers that work went out the back door  to cronies,is it not the case that one such dispatch operater blackmailed drivers by blocking them getting insurance if they didnt subscribe to his union,the list goes on

Yer only hearing all this gossip from the ranks.
You know nothing about it.
Your just the fool on the rank only good for taking people home.



That is the whole idea of working as a taxi. :P

what do you do? bring them for dinner, or go clubbing with them or something?

That’s the difference when you work with a dispatch company.
So much other work than just taking people home like you.
Who brings the punters into the City, Airport, train station.
Who do you think services the hotels, multi national companies, corporate accounts, HSE accounts
As I said yer only good for taking people home.


I work 7 days a week, day and night. I only ever sit at a rank early on weekend nights.
I do hospital runs, runs from nursing homes, have regulars, have plenty of work from my website. do runs all over the country, airport runs etc and guess what all the money I take in goes to me, i don't hand any of it over to freenow.

Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Lizzzy on July 03, 2020, 03:19:02 pm
Website......what's it called ?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 03, 2020, 03:32:35 pm
You reckon I know nothing about dispatchers ? Is it not the case that they take 15 % commisiin from drivers ?  Is it not the case that FN offered 50 % discount to madical staff ? Is it not the case that traditional dispatchers  told you what to wear ie ( uniforms) what to charge ( discounts) and actually DISCIPLINED drivers by knocking them off the system if the gave back heavily discounted work ?is it not accepted by most drivers that work went out the back door  to cronies,is it not the case that one such dispatch operater blackmailed drivers by blocking them getting insurance if they didnt subscribe to his union,the list goes on

Yer only hearing all this gossip from the ranks.
You know nothing about it.
Your just the fool on the rank only good for taking people home.



That is the whole idea of working as a taxi. :P

what do you do? bring them for dinner, or go clubbing with them or something?

That’s the difference when you work with a dispatch company.
So much other work than just taking people home like you.
Who brings the punters into the City, Airport, train station.
Who do you think services the hotels, multi national companies, corporate accounts, HSE accounts
As I said yer only good for taking people home.
He says who does the hotels ?  Kellys illegally parked drivers
Who does the HSE  ? The cab company who offers massive discounts on behalf of the drivers.ya haven't a fukin clue how to work on tour own initiative
I work 7 days a week, day and night. I only ever sit at a rank early on weekend nights.
I do hospital runs, runs from nursing homes, have regulars, have plenty of work from my website. do runs all over the country, airport runs etc and guess what all the money I take in goes to me, i don't hand any of it over to freenow.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 03, 2020, 03:39:03 pm
You reckon I know nothing about dispatchers ? Is it not the case that they take 15 % commisiin from drivers ?  Is it not the case that FN offered 50 % discount to madical staff ? Is it not the case that traditional dispatchers  told you what to wear ie ( uniforms) what to charge ( discounts) and actually DISCIPLINED drivers by knocking them off the system if the gave back heavily discounted work ?is it not accepted by most drivers that work went out the back door  to cronies,is it not the case that one such dispatch operater blackmailed drivers by blocking them getting insurance if they didnt subscribe to his union,the list goes on

Yer only hearing all this gossip from the ranks.
You know nothing about it.
Your just the fool on the rank only good for taking people home.



That is the whole idea of working as a taxi. :P

what do you do? bring them for dinner, or go clubbing with them or something?

That’s the difference when you work with a dispatch company.
So much other work than just taking people home like you.
Who brings the punters into the City, Airport, train station.
Who do you think services the hotels, multi national companies, corporate accounts, HSE accounts
As I said yer only good for taking people home.


I work 7 days a week, day and night. I only ever sit at a rank early on weekend nights.
I do hospital runs, runs from nursing homes, have regulars, have plenty of work from my website. do runs all over the country, airport runs etc and guess what all the money I take in goes to me, i don't hand any of it over to freenow.

Hence that’s why you have to work 7 days a week.
Making jack on the rank
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 03, 2020, 03:47:56 pm
You reckon I know nothing about dispatchers ? Is it not the case that they take 15 % commisiin from drivers ?  Is it not the case that FN offered 50 % discount to madical staff ? Is it not the case that traditional dispatchers  told you what to wear ie ( uniforms) what to charge ( discounts) and actually DISCIPLINED drivers by knocking them off the system if the gave back heavily discounted work ?is it not accepted by most drivers that work went out the back door  to cronies,is it not the case that one such dispatch operater blackmailed drivers by blocking them getting insurance if they didnt subscribe to his union,the list goes on

Yer only hearing all this gossip from the ranks.
You know nothing about it.
Your just the fool on the rank only good for taking people home.



That is the whole idea of working as a taxi. :P

what do you do? bring them for dinner, or go clubbing with them or something?

That’s the difference when you work with a dispatch company.
So much other work than just taking people home like you.
Who brings the punters into the City, Airport, train station.
Who do you think services the hotels, multi national companies, corporate accounts, HSE accounts
As I said yer only good for taking people home.


I work 7 days a week, day and night. I only ever sit at a rank early on weekend nights.
I do hospital runs, runs from nursing homes, have regulars, have plenty of work from my website. do runs all over the country, airport runs etc and guess what all the money I take in goes to me, i don't hand any of it over to freenow.

Hence that’s why you have to work 7 days a week.
Making jack on the rank



who said I have to work as much as I do? I just do because I probably wont be in this game in a few years so im making as much as I can now. I will be running other businesses while you and the rest of the freenow workers are walking around with placards protesting about freenow taking 50% from ye.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 03, 2020, 04:25:49 pm
Id say it will be 75 % by then 1990
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 03, 2020, 04:29:17 pm
Id say it will be 75 % by then 1990


probably. They will be begging freenow to put it back to 50%.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 03, 2020, 05:23:50 pm
COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment Confirmation (https://www.gov.ie/en/service/c77da-pandemic-unemployment-payment-confirmation/)
Quote
Confirm your eligibility with us by 13 July
If you are currently in receipt of the COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment we now need you to confirm your continued entitlement to this payment.

If you don’t confirm your payment may be affected.

To continue receiving this payment you must be:
Fully unemployed - permanently or temporarily as a result of COVID-19
Or, if self-employed , your trading income has been significantly reduced
Living in the Republic of Ireland


So we're still allowed to work and claim.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Hugh Jenob on July 03, 2020, 05:27:35 pm
I wouldn't like to put it to the test. Claim away,  but don't let on to anyone

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Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 03, 2020, 06:14:25 pm
I have given that line a coat of looking over and I read it as .Hello citizen we are handing out covid coin here are the qualifications .If you are self employed and would like to claim the coin then if your   trading income has been significantly reduced you may apply for the coin .This does not mean you can continue to toil .It just means if you wanted to apply this was the peramiter .You can confirm this by looking at the last page you need to fill in and confirm you have no wages .

https://postlmg.cc/yknM9pgx
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 03, 2020, 06:21:56 pm
Its all about context

Eats,shoots and leaves .You think I mean Big Dommos dinner date with Billy the Bastards Cunt of a kid

Eats,shoots and  Leaves is a Panda Bears dinner menu .


Context is everything .
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 03, 2020, 06:28:39 pm
If you satisfy the criteria i.e. your trading income is significantly reduced and they refuse your claim or suggest you have to cease trading you should appeal and contact your local Solidarity People Before Profit T.D. If you're just trying to convince yourself that you shouldn't work for nothing, carry on.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 03, 2020, 06:34:47 pm
It waasx the Qualifying Criteria for self employed people to make a claim .Are Profit from the People the same people who complained and got the Building sites closed the same people who complained workers in a surgical devises factory were being forded to go to work were they the same people who wanted bus drivers to consider strike .John Wayne and a Posse with an Indian Scout couldnt find Gino Kenny in a month of Sundays if they went looking for him .
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: stonethecrows on July 03, 2020, 11:39:34 pm
COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment Confirmation (https://www.gov.ie/en/service/c77da-pandemic-unemployment-payment-confirmation/)
Quote
Confirm your eligibility with us by 13 July
If you are currently in receipt of the COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment we now need you to confirm your continued entitlement to this payment.

If you don’t confirm your payment may be affected.

To continue receiving this payment you must be:
Fully unemployed - permanently or temporarily as a result of COVID-19
Or, if self-employed , your trading income has been significantly reduced
Living in the Republic of Ireland


So we're still allowed to work and claim.
Rat, got me daisies fitted back on last Tuesday by 2 sound NTA inspectors, one in particular was great , had a chat and he advised me that they can/will/have gone into FN and got the list of drivers working and can  check this against drivers who have de-linked themselves.

He also said they (NTA) can/do share this info with revenue.

So I gather that to mean that you cannot work and claim.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: TheDevilHimself on July 04, 2020, 12:17:44 pm
Freenow are only interested in capturing the whole taxi market customer base .....they are close to a monopoly
Wen that is achieved.....theyll be lobbying the new green Government to make the taxi industry complete electric....eamon moron ryan will jump at the chance an freenow will supply a fleet of bmw an daimler  vw or watever cars they own to the market ......ryan will wit the stroke of a pen ban diesel an petrol cars in the taxi business an at the stroke of a pen allow freenow (daimler, bmw) to replace privately owned independent taxis .....
That's the future...taxi drivers will then be given a minimum wage ....they will all be immigrants who work for minimum wage and no benifits and one false move or scratch on the vehicle or a customer complaint they be  replaced .....
Some of u dont care about the future of the business because you operate from a fully selfish viewpoint of the world and have calculated that by the time change comes ....yull be retired .....but yu have no regard for the legacy you are leaving to future generations or your part in changing society in such a negative way .....your rationale is we are all competitors and must fuk each other over to survive and any other way of thinking is communism.......
Theres a lot more to life than your bank account...wat about the sovereignty of your own country and the future of your kids in ireland ...
This country is bean sold bit by bit little by little ...the day will arrive wen yur children will be renting ther  home off some foreign bank for the rest of ther lives and paying 3/4 of ther wages for the privilege . Theyll be slaves to foreign banks and multinationals ....
Why is that so ?
Why is it that Germany is actively encouraging immigration ( dirt cheap slaves ) to Europe?
Why are  my nephews and nieces ( all of them without exception with master degrees in teaching, engineering,  architecture)  renting apartments at highly exorbitant prices and with zero prospect of ever owning ther own home ..
Who has allowed that to happen?  freenow has control now of your customers.....who allowed that to happen?
The Irish government allowed it to happen ....a highly regulated essential public service  run by a multinational.....an absolute fucking disgrace
Who allows fakebook and google to come here and purchase a whole new unfinished apartment block
The Irish government
There is no doubt that the smart phone  taxi hailing application is an essential part of the taxi business and will
Continue to be so but why has the control of it bein given away to a foreign multinational wen it is giving away control of our livelihoods?  You go into your licence renewal with an out of date fire extinguisher and see wat happens but bmw is allowed to take control of your customers and livelihoods and dictate who is going to get that customer and at wat price they are going to charge you for the privilege with zero government intervention....I know I'm a mad cnut but I just cant get my head around any of that
The app  shud be run by the people of ireland for the people of ireland
+10
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Hugh Jenob on July 04, 2020, 12:23:53 pm
Thats a fairly long research paper. I skipped to the end. Your English and grammar isn't great. But anyway....

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Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 12:30:57 pm
Ocky if I didnt know better,id say you were only winding me up by saying all the things I have said on here a million times.particularly the part about loss of our sovereignty.I have refered posters many times to the poem recited by Luke Kelly,for what died the sons of Roisin.one thing I would disagree with you on though,you asked who is to blame for dominence of the game and you reckon the government are to blame.I disagree with you on that point alone , I blame the drivers who are flocking to them in their droves to strengthen their grip on the market.our strongest ,and best weapon is our withdrawal of our labour.because we can operate without them but they cannot operate without us,and that is where our strength lies
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 04, 2020, 12:39:27 pm
There's too many greedy cnuts in the game dm. If some drivers withdraw their service they're be others to eagerly sign up to replace them. I once suggested that we should withdraw our service during peak hours, when they need us most and we need them least and i was nearly hung from the rafters for suggesting such drivel. There's no point mentioning protests against de deutsch masters, most will simply not comply. Greed takes over. This is especially true in the case of the ambassadors.  They'd be coming in their jox at the thought of thousands of drivers downing tools during peak hours.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 12:47:07 pm
Could ya imagine Kenny,if he thought he beloved were going to get a kick in the bollox ,it would probably kill him,or he might try to get even MORE gold badges for trying harder
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 04, 2020, 12:49:04 pm
There is no "he might" there dm. The man would be in his absolute element, flying around the kip getting them medals and stickers for his copybook.  Sad but true.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 12:52:36 pm
Do ya think did he REALLY bring donuts in to the teachers,or is that hust a load of bollocks as the doc says ?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 04, 2020, 12:55:30 pm
no, that is 100% true. There's even a photo of the incident.  Kens standing there in the fn office and some bloke from fn is there holding up a full box of doughnuts with a big grin on his face as if to say, this pleb (ken) thinks hes gonna be the teachers pet now. Ken just looks well, like the teachers pet.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 01:02:20 pm
Give the man with the donuts an EXTRA gold star
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 04, 2020, 01:06:54 pm
Thats what ken was hoping for. Till he found out that they couldn't give 2 shits about him which was painfully prooved that time when they ripped him off with his voucher. Doughnuts or no Doughnuts,  there is no teachers pet it seems. As ken found out. Doesn't stop him trying to get the most stars though.  Its like he's in competition with himself.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 04, 2020, 01:27:14 pm
Thats a fairly long research paper. I skipped to the end. Your English and grammar isn't great. But anyway....

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I'm a taxi driver for a reason just like you .....
 Im not a fucking school teacher
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Lizzzy on July 04, 2020, 01:46:36 pm
Thats a fairly long research paper. I skipped to the end. Your English and grammar isn't great. But anyway....

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I'm a taxi driver for a reason just like you .....
 Im not a fucking school teacher

Laughing
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 04, 2020, 01:53:39 pm
Ocky if I didnt know better,id say you were only winding me up by saying all the things I have said on here a million times.particularly the part about loss of our sovereignty.I have refered posters many times to the poem recited by Luke Kelly,for what died the sons of Roisin.one thing I would disagree with you on though,you asked who is to blame for dominence of the game and you reckon the government are to blame.I disagree with you on that point alone , I blame the drivers who are flocking to them in their droves to strengthen their grip on the market.our strongest ,and best weapon is our withdrawal of our labour.because we can operate without them but they cannot operate without us,and that is where our strength lies

Daily I'm very fond of ya but  ...God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
courage to change the things I can,
and wisdom to know the difference.

You have said that you are in a position wer you can retire ....you have yur pensions and mortgage paid etc .....that's a position of privilege that allows you to give out about freenow and despatchers .....I agree with you wholeheartedly
In most of what you say but ...ther are drivers on here .....ken being a prime  example and I hope he doesn't mind me saying ...who has to give half his wages to an ex wife and a load kids  and a home and has to feed and clothe himself aswell and pay rent on a flat  .....if he doesn't meet the Bill's he could find himself back in court .....
Now theres new fellows out ther paying 10s of thousands on wheelie bins and 5- 10 grand a year on insurance.....and mortgages.....you are talking from a completely privileged position and fail to understand the pressures others are under .....the similarities between the global financial crisis and our present day crisis will be made evident when the Bill's go unpaid .......I believe more  blokes cud  be topping
Themselves than was killed by this chinese plaugue.....and theres no safety net when the 350 ceases next month ....
We have all heard you time and time again talking about dispatchers on a daily basis from your privileged point of view for a very long time now ....but where is it getting any of us ?
I just read over it now to be honest ......I'm not trying to be a cnut wit ya ....but it's a broken record .....
I believe this situation of freenow controlling our livelihoods
Is caused by the the department of transport because alot of guys have no choice but to dance to freenows tune ...and I believe that the government should controll the app market because apps are an intrinsic essential part of the taxi business because the customer demands the convenience
And the youth of today cannot operate without ther smart phone ......you saying let them go out on the road and hail
Is just living in the past and failing to move with the times ....
The app is here to stay and I stand by what I and others on here have said ......it should be in the control of our own regulators not some car manufacturer that is in the process of replacing us and our jobs ....

Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 02:08:28 pm
Ocki believe it or not,there is actually common ground there.I have ALSO said I would be in favour of a transparent GOVERNMENT run app,where no discounts,were offered,and a nominal ,or no commission paid.no work going out the back door,and total equity in the distribution of work.I could defo go along with that
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 04, 2020, 02:19:00 pm
So really you just want dispatchers nationalised?
Incentives need to be offered in order to get drivers to work during peak periods or traffic congested periods, otherwise the customers wouldn't get looked after.
Hence gold stars. priority, and ambassadors.
A government led system would have the same type of thing only probably worse, maybe a monetary fine for not working one of the rush hours every day rather than an incentive, Government tends to be more stick than carrot.
Be honest you hate the NTA nearly as much as you do the dispatchers, you'd really hate a government dispatcher ,,, greener grass and all that!
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 02:19:52 pm
Occi any slagging of Kenny,is purely that.a bit of slagging nothing sinister in it.Ken is actually a nice bloke,although I never actually met him,he send me a very good torch some time ago.I like Ken ,( even though im in the doghouse and I dont know why ) but however t h e slagging over the gold stars,and the donuts is only a bit of skit,and I hope he would take it in the spirit it is meant.I cant speak for horse,but I suspect its the same with him
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: silverbullet on July 04, 2020, 02:20:25 pm
So really you just want dispatchers nationalised?
Incentives need to be offered in order to get drivers to work during peak periods or traffic congested periods, otherwise the customers wouldn't get looked after.
Hence gold stars. priority, and ambassadors.
A government led system would have the same type of thing only probably worse, maybe a monetary fine for not working one of the rush hours every day rather than an incentive, Government tends to be more stick than carrot.
Be honest you hate the NTA nearly as much as you do the dispatchers, you'd really hate a government dispatcher ,,, greener grass and all that!
It's the old carrot and thick approach.  8)
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 02:30:16 pm
So really you just want dispatchers nationalised?
Incentives need to be offered in order to get drivers to work during peak periods or traffic congested periods, otherwise the customers wouldn't get looked after.
Hence gold stars. priority, and ambassadors.
A government led system would have the same type of thing only probably worse, maybe a monetary fine for not working one of the rush hours every day rather than an incentive, Government tends to be more stick than carrot.
Be honest you hate the NTA nearly as much as you do the dispatchers, you'd really hate a government dispatcher ,,, greener grass and all that!
no I dont want them nationalised,I just want them gone.I have no problem with the NTA,so I dont know why tou think I hate them
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 04, 2020, 02:38:14 pm
So really you just want dispatchers nationalised?
Incentives need to be offered in order to get drivers to work during peak periods or traffic congested periods, otherwise the customers wouldn't get looked after.
Hence gold stars. priority, and ambassadors.
A government led system would have the same type of thing only probably worse, maybe a monetary fine for not working one of the rush hours every day rather than an incentive, Government tends to be more stick than carrot.
Be honest you hate the NTA nearly as much as you do the dispatchers, you'd really hate a government dispatcher ,,, greener grass and all that!

Toao ....is that for me?  ....why do you say I hate the nta ?
I've never said anything negative about the nta here or on Roy's site ever as far as I know .....I dont believe the government run app would fine you for not working at rush hour ....I dont know wer yu got that from . It's not legal firstly .
I'm saying the app should be run fairly and all work distributed equally .....ambassador status is not an incentive ....its a  competitive divide and conquer system
Introduced to cause division to facilitate freenow exert more control and power  over drivers and weaken any solidarity so that drivers are powerless to change ....
The reason why some are siding with freenow and would be against a government app is because they are under the delusion that the multinational will hide ther earnings ....
I can assure you that the revenue has access to freenows books and drivers earnings

Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 04, 2020, 02:51:19 pm
One more point toao ..the ammount of taxis out ther the  market is saturated....ther is no need to incentivise...especially now as ther was no preparation for another global financial crash ....no lessons learnt ..boom and bust and too many taxis  spured on by freenow and despatchers recruitment departments and unrestricted by the regulatory bodies ....
Madness
 
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 04, 2020, 02:59:21 pm
Occi any slagging of Kenny,is purely that.a bit of slagging nothing sinister in it.Ken is actually a nice bloke,although I never actually met him,he send me a very good torch some time ago.I like Ken ,( even though im in the doghouse and I dont know why ) but however t h e slagging over the gold stars,and the donuts is only a bit of skit,and I hope he would take it in the spirit it is meant.I cant speak for horse,but I suspect its the same with him
Ye I know daily ya owl fuk ya  :P ;D ::cheers  ;) :D
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 03:04:03 pm
So really you just want dispatchers nationalised?
Incentives need to be offered in order to get drivers to work during peak periods or traffic congested periods, otherwise the customers wouldn't get looked after.
Hence gold stars. priority, and ambassadors.
A government led system would have the same type of thing only probably worse, maybe a monetary fine for not working one of the rush hours every day rather than an incentive, Government tends to be more stick than carrot.
Be honest you hate the NTA nearly as much as you do the dispatchers, you'd really hate a government dispatcher ,,, greener grass and all that!

Toao ....is that for me?  ....why do you say I hate the nta ?
I've never said anything negative about the nta here or on Roy's site ever as far as I know .....I dont believe the government run app would fine you for not working at rush hour ....I dont know wer yu got that from . It's not legal firstly .
I'm saying the app should be run fairly and all work distributed equally .....ambassador status is not an incentive ....its a  competitive divide and conquer system
Introduced to cause division to facilitate freenow exert more control and power  over drivers and weaken any solidarity so that drivers are powerless to change ....
The reason why some are siding with freenow and would be against a government app is because they are under the delusion that the multinational will hide ther earnings ....
I can assure you that the revenue has access to freenows books and drivers earnings
I thought it was for me,but maybe it is for you
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 04, 2020, 03:08:22 pm
It's welfare that are responsible for administration of PUP, STC. If you satisfy the criteria you've nothing to worry about. If you don't (e.g. if you're earning as much as you declared in 2018) don't claim, simples.

You can put a goldfish in water but you can't make it swim.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 03:22:10 pm
I signed off yesterday,I doubt if ill get anything on tuesday though
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 04, 2020, 04:22:19 pm
Occi any slagging of Kenny,is purely that.a bit of slagging nothing sinister in it.Ken is actually a nice bloke,although I never actually met him,he send me a very good torch some time ago.I like Ken ,( even though im in the doghouse and I dont know why ) but however t h e slagging over the gold stars,and the donuts is only a bit of skit,and I hope he would take it in the spirit it is meant.I cant speak for horse,but I suspect its the same with him

It certainly is dm, just a wind up, cause there's loads of material there. Kens wide though, most of the time.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 04, 2020, 04:53:23 pm
So really you just want dispatchers nationalised?
Incentives need to be offered in order to get drivers to work during peak periods or traffic congested periods, otherwise the customers wouldn't get looked after.
Hence gold stars. priority, and ambassadors.
A government led system would have the same type of thing only probably worse, maybe a monetary fine for not working one of the rush hours every day rather than an incentive, Government tends to be more stick than carrot.
Be honest you hate the NTA nearly as much as you do the dispatchers, you'd really hate a government dispatcher ,,, greener grass and all that!
no I dont want them nationalised,I just want them gone.I have no problem with the NTA,so I dont know why tou think I hate them

It's in response to this (government run equals nationalised) sorry I was mistaken about your love for the NTA
Quote
Ocki believe it or not,there is actually common ground there.I have ALSO said I would be in favour of a transparent GOVERNMENT run app,where no discounts,were offered,and a nominal ,or no commission paid.no work going out the back door,and total equity in the distribution of work.I could defo go along with that
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: mgb1979 on July 04, 2020, 06:31:19 pm
I signed off yesterday,I doubt if ill get anything on tuesday though

If you signed off yesterday daly, you should get a payment next Tuesday (for Friday 26/06 to Thursday 02/07). You should also get a payment the following Tuesday, as you are entitled to a full week for the week you sign off the PUP.
 The week is Friday to Thursday, and you signed off on a Friday......
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 06:46:26 pm
Yeah but the difference with me is ,I became 66 on 29th june,so my daye effectively for NOT being entitled to any further payment would be the 29 th june when my state pension kicked in
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 04, 2020, 08:50:47 pm
I signed off yesterday,I doubt if ill get anything on tuesday though

Ah Jaysus your flaying it.
Eircom pension
State pension
Covid payment
You must be a very unhappy old man that you hate drivers trying to make a few bob either from FreeNow or dispatchers.
Very sad bitter old man.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 09:51:45 pm
Your right
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 09:53:35 pm
I signed off yesterday,I doubt if ill get anything on tuesday though

Ah Jaysus your flaying it.
Eircom pension
State pension
Covid payment
You must be a very unhappy old man that you hate drivers trying to make a few bob either from FreeNow or dispatchers.
Very sad bitter old man.
btw dont forget my household benefits package either,and if I get anything else ill be sure to let you know
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 04, 2020, 10:00:45 pm
No idea what household benefits are.
Don’t be such a bitter old man.
Be a bit happy.
You prob don’t have much time left on the planet.
Enjoy the rest of your life without worry about dispatchers and FreeNow.
One of these days you will want a taxi to call to your door to take you to the hozzie.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 10:17:04 pm
No idea what household benefits are.
Don’t be such a bitter old man.
Be a bit happy.
You prob don’t have much time left on the planet.
Enjoy the rest of your life without worry about dispatchers and FreeNow.
One of these days you will want a taxi to call to your door to take you to the hozzie.
ok ill try not to worry
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 04, 2020, 10:37:05 pm
No idea what household benefits are.
Don’t be such a bitter old man.
Be a bit happy.
You prob don’t have much time left on the planet.
Enjoy the rest of your life without worry about dispatchers and FreeNow.
One of these days you will want a taxi to call to your door to take you to the hozzie.
ok ill try not to worry

Look at all the people that lost thousands in the eircom shares.
The only people that made a killing was those in the ESOP which was you.
Would I be correct in saying 80k plus and tax free courtesy of Charlie Mc Creevy.
Prob plenty of taxi drivers bought those shares and if I recall it was a minimum investment of 5k.
Mate of mine lost 20k.
As a previous poster said you are in a privileged position with 2 pensions and a covid payment.
Leave people alone that want to work and get on with their lives.
They are all out there trying to make a few bob as best they can.
And be happy.
Don’t be a sad ol codger.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 04, 2020, 11:07:35 pm
No idea what household benefits are.
Don’t be such a bitter old man.
Be a bit happy.
You prob don’t have much time left on the planet.
Enjoy the rest of your life without worry about dispatchers and FreeNow.
One of these days you will want a taxi to call to your door to take you to the hozzie.
ok ill try not to worry

Look at all the people that lost thousands in the eircom shares.
The only people that made a killing was those in the ESOP which was you.
Would I be correct in saying 80k plus and tax free courtesy of Charlie Mc Creevy.
Prob plenty of taxi drivers bought those shares and if I recall it was a minimum investment of 5k.
Mate of mine lost 20k.
As a previous poster said you are in a privileged position with 2 pensions and a covid payment.
Leave people alone that want to work and get on with their lives.
They are all out there trying to make a few bob as best they can.
And be happy.
Don’t be a sad ol codger.
now now jackie,jealously will get you nowhere
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 04, 2020, 11:22:22 pm
Im not jealous but fair play to you.
You had no problem taking the money that thousands of investors lost to the collapse of the shares.
But yet you hate the normal joe soap trying to scrape out a living with paying a commission fee to FN or a sub to a dispatch company.
Get off your high pedestal.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Lizzzy on July 05, 2020, 12:27:08 am
Im not jealous but fair play to you.
You had no problem taking the money that thousands of investors lost to the collapse of the shares.
But yet you hate the normal joe soap trying to scrape out a living with paying a commission fee to FN or a sub to a dispatch company.
Get off your high pedestal.

+1
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Phsychidelic on July 05, 2020, 01:06:29 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3_0GqPvr4U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3_0GqPvr4U)
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: U Wha on July 05, 2020, 02:24:19 am
Freenow are only interested in capturing the whole taxi market customer base .....they are close to a monopoly
Wen that is achieved.....theyll be lobbying the new green Government to make the taxi industry complete electric....eamon moron ryan will jump at the chance an freenow will supply a fleet of bmw an daimler  vw or watever cars they own to the market ......ryan will wit the stroke of a pen ban diesel an petrol cars in the taxi business an at the stroke of a pen allow freenow (daimler, bmw) to replace privately owned independent taxis .....
That's the future...taxi drivers will then be given a minimum wage ....they will all be immigrants who work for minimum wage and no benifits and one false move or scratch on the vehicle or a customer complaint they be  replaced .....
Some of u dont care about the future of the business because you operate from a fully selfish viewpoint of the world and have calculated that by the time change comes ....yull be retired .....but yu have no regard for the legacy you are leaving to future generations or your part in changing society in such a negative way .....your rationale is we are all competitors and must fuk each other over to survive and any other way of thinking is communism.......
Theres a lot more to life than your bank account...wat about the sovereignty of your own country and the future of your kids in ireland ...
This country is bean sold bit by bit little by little ...the day will arrive wen yur children will be renting ther  home off some foreign bank for the rest of ther lives and paying 3/4 of ther wages for the privilege . Theyll be slaves to foreign banks and multinationals ....
Why is that so ?
Why is it that Germany is actively encouraging immigration ( dirt cheap slaves ) to Europe?
Why are  my nephews and nieces ( all of them without exception with master degrees in teaching, engineering,  architecture)  renting apartments at highly exorbitant prices and with zero prospect of ever owning ther own home ..
Who has allowed that to happen?  freenow has control now of your customers.....who allowed that to happen?
The Irish government allowed it to happen ....a highly regulated essential public service  run by a multinational.....an absolute fucking disgrace
Who allows fakebook and google to come here and purchase a whole new unfinished apartment block
The Irish government
There is no doubt that the smart phone  taxi hailing application is an essential part of the taxi business and will
Continue to be so but why has the control of it bein given away to a foreign multinational wen it is giving away control of our livelihoods?  You go into your licence renewal with an out of date fire extinguisher and see wat happens but bmw is allowed to take control of your customers and livelihoods and dictate who is going to get that customer and at wat price they are going to charge you for the privilege with zero government intervention....I know I'm a mad cnut but I just cant get my head around any of that
The app  shud be run by the people of ireland for the people of ireland

Well said and for the most part I agree.

I used to be passionate about drivers owning their own future. I was a member of one of the more recent co-ops and more recently proposed a driver owned app to counteract  many of your valid points.

Unfortunately our business makes us selfish, as 'taxi' drivers every day is different, no continuity with the different customers most od the time. We are competitors and most of us are too busy with surviving each day to worry too much about tomorrow.

None of us sold our souls to the dispatcher devils, we take the work to make ends meet and adapt to what consumers want, which is ease of use, convenience and comfort. We could deliver that with our own platform (App) but most drivers are just too busy with today, a bit paranoid and cynical. Eventually, the jobs makes most of us like that to some degree.

So as much as I admire your and Dalymounts sentiments, It is just not going to happen.

As for the day arriving for our kids being slaves to banks, its already here.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: U Wha on July 05, 2020, 02:25:53 am
No idea what household benefits are.
Don’t be such a bitter old man.
Be a bit happy.
You prob don’t have much time left on the planet.
Enjoy the rest of your life without worry about dispatchers and FreeNow.
One of these days you will want a taxi to call to your door to take you to the hozzie.

Bit harsh! You dont have to agree with people but respect is still expected.

No one is guaranteed tomorrow. You could be knocked down by a taxi.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 05, 2020, 08:23:48 am
So you have to confirm your income has collapsed?

I got a text from a mate last night to say there was a massive Q on the Green and no Taxis about .... checked the FN App .....


(https://i.postimg.cc/Wdtv16RH/IMG-0159.png) (https://postimg.cc/Wdtv16RH)

(https://i.postimg.cc/D8xhhpNG/IMG-0160-1.png) (https://postimg.cc/D8xhhpNG)

They'll be be on the Radio Monday complaining about the lack of taxis and drivers sponging off the dole, well done lads .... our reputation goes further down the drain
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 05, 2020, 09:41:45 am
Betting in Running explained .the race or match is started your team are leading 1-0 or your horse has a nice lead .You think this looks great Ill bet my money on this .Then the other team equalize or the horse hits a fence hard and what looked like a good bet becomes just another bet .Your team might score again and win or your horse might recover and win but you will of gotten no value for your bet as you played at the wrong time .

Now yesterday was the first good Saturday since March but everything might change if the Cough spreads .Everywhere they lifted Lockdown it has been curtailed or reintroduced .Now is not the time to be betting in running on the taxi industry one Swallow does not make a summer .All those people waiting on the Green last night wont be there Monday Night or Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday .
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 05, 2020, 09:43:02 am
Freenow are only interested in capturing the whole taxi market customer base .....they are close to a monopoly
Wen that is achieved.....theyll be lobbying the new green Government to make the taxi industry complete electric....eamon moron ryan will jump at the chance an freenow will supply a fleet of bmw an daimler  vw or watever cars they own to the market ......ryan will wit the stroke of a pen ban diesel an petrol cars in the taxi business an at the stroke of a pen allow freenow (daimler, bmw) to replace privately owned independent taxis .....
That's the future...taxi drivers will then be given a minimum wage ....they will all be immigrants who work for minimum wage and no benifits and one false move or scratch on the vehicle or a customer complaint they be  replaced .....
Some of u dont care about the future of the business because you operate from a fully selfish viewpoint of the world and have calculated that by the time change comes ....yull be retired .....but yu have no regard for the legacy you are leaving to future generations or your part in changing society in such a negative way .....your rationale is we are all competitors and must fuk each other over to survive and any other way of thinking is communism.......
Theres a lot more to life than your bank account...wat about the sovereignty of your own country and the future of your kids in ireland ...
This country is bean sold bit by bit little by little ...the day will arrive wen yur children will be renting ther  home off some foreign bank for the rest of ther lives and paying 3/4 of ther wages for the privilege . Theyll be slaves to foreign banks and multinationals ....
Why is that so ?
Why is it that Germany is actively encouraging immigration ( dirt cheap slaves ) to Europe?
Why are  my nephews and nieces ( all of them without exception with master degrees in teaching, engineering,  architecture)  renting apartments at highly exorbitant prices and with zero prospect of ever owning ther own home ..
Who has allowed that to happen?  freenow has control now of your customers.....who allowed that to happen?
The Irish government allowed it to happen ....a highly regulated essential public service  run by a multinational.....an absolute fucking disgrace
Who allows fakebook and google to come here and purchase a whole new unfinished apartment block
The Irish government
There is no doubt that the smart phone  taxi hailing application is an essential part of the taxi business and will
Continue to be so but why has the control of it bein given away to a foreign multinational wen it is giving away control of our livelihoods?  You go into your licence renewal with an out of date fire extinguisher and see wat happens but bmw is allowed to take control of your customers and livelihoods and dictate who is going to get that customer and at wat price they are going to charge you for the privilege with zero government intervention....I know I'm a mad cnut but I just cant get my head around any of that
The app  shud be run by the people of ireland for the people of ireland

Well said and for the most part I agree.

I used to be passionate about drivers owning their own future. I was a member of one of the more recent co-ops and more recently proposed a driver owned app to counteract  many of your valid points.

Unfortunately our business makes us selfish, as 'taxi' drivers every day is different, no continuity with the different customers most od the time. We are competitors and most of us are too busy with surviving each day to worry too much about tomorrow.

None of us sold our souls to the dispatcher devils, we take the work to make ends meet and adapt to what consumers want, which is ease of use, convenience and comfort. We could deliver that with our own platform (App) but most drivers are just too busy with today, a bit paranoid and cynical. Eventually, the jobs makes most of us like that to some degree.

So as much as I admire your and Dalymounts sentiments, It is just not going to happen.

As for the day arriving for our kids being slaves to banks, its already here.



Do you think another driver owned app could take off and if so what percentage would make most drivers leave freenow? like if they take 25% from drivers would that be the end of them?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 05, 2020, 10:00:52 am
1990 Let me explain to you like I tried to explain to others who talk about apps .TAXI DRIVERS DO NOT WANT AN APP .you read of vaccination for covid .They say that for it to work 70% would need to be vaxinated .Now an app to be really successfull would need the same sort of support there is an Economic Theory to explain why but Im not going to bother me bollox explaining that .Here is the reality people drive taxies because it is a cash business they delude themselves thinking they are making great money because they have a pocket full of Gelt at the end of every shift they go cost blind dont see the costs of running the business and they think they are fooling the tax man and there in lies the stupidity .We were offered an opportunity by Alan Kelly but never took it up .He said he wanted all drivers aligned and the industry to be cashless .We shoild of called for the NTA to set up an app paid for out of our licence fees but the usual Fucktards saw this as THE FUCKING TAXMAN WILL KNOW WHAT WE EARN.and thought they would get caught for income tax on profits after costs .Instead they opted for going with Dispatchers and Apps that charge a % of your earnings before costs . The advantages of a state run app was no commission .Yes the app would know what you earned but the taxman can get that information from the app providers or justask you .It would of discouraged double jobbers as they would of exhausted theit Tax Allowancea in their primary employment ,it would on increased safety as most jobs would of been done in app .The opportunity to get the government to set up an App was lost your arse is now owned by Free Now because thats what you asked for .Drivers gave about 80 MILLION in subsidies to Hailo by not charging the PUC and giving free waiting time .No other app will ever get that sort of suicidal support .
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 05, 2020, 10:09:50 am
No idea what household benefits are.
Don’t be such a bitter old man.
Be a bit happy.
You prob don’t have much time left on the planet.
Enjoy the rest of your life without worry about dispatchers and FreeNow.
One of these days you will want a taxi to call to your door to take you to the hozzie.

Bit harsh! You dont have to agree with people but respect is still expected.

No one is guaranteed tomorrow. You could be knocked down by a taxi.

You have to earn respect.
This is the man that wants everyone to walk out onto the street to hail a taxi.
He don’t give a Fook if your old not able to walk need a taxi in an emergency.
He listening to gutter talk on the rank about jobs going  out the back door and discounts.
Just remember at the start of your working week your starting at zero income.
He has 3 incomes coming in with his eircom pension, state pension and covid payment prob 800 bucks.
When your looking for a taxi in an emergency remember it won’t be him picking you up.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 05, 2020, 10:11:30 am
Betting in Running explained .the race or match is started your team are leading 1-0 or your horse has a nice lead .You think this looks great Ill bet my money on this .Then the other team equalize or the horse hits a fence hard and what looked like a good bet becomes just another bet .Your team might score again and win or your horse might recover and win but you will of gotten no value for your bet as you played at the wrong time .

Now yesterday was the first good Saturday since March but everything might change if the Cough spreads .Everywhere they lifted Lockdown it has been curtailed or reintroduced .Now is not the time to be betting in running on the taxi industry one Swallow does not make a summer .All those people waiting on the Green last night wont be there Monday Night or Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday .
So you have to confirm your income has collapsed?

I got a text from a mate last night to say there was a massive Q on the Green and no Taxis about .... checked the FN App .....


(https://i.postimg.cc/Wdtv16RH/IMG-0159.png) (https://postimg.cc/Wdtv16RH)

(https://i.postimg.cc/D8xhhpNG/IMG-0160-1.png) (https://postimg.cc/D8xhhpNG)

They'll be be on the Radio Monday complaining about the lack of taxis and drivers sponging off the dole, well done lads .... our reputation goes further down the drain

That's the same when there isn't a pandemic, you want there to be Qs on the Green every night before you go back?
Try booking a restaurant any day next week, you'll do well to get a decent slot
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 05, 2020, 10:11:53 am
Absolutely 100% agree with everything you said erm,its basically what I have been trying to say all along,but you captured what I was saying all along.one thing I would add though,I believe it would be transparent,and drivers would see where the work was going
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 05, 2020, 10:13:20 am
1990 Let me explain to you like I tried to explain to others who talk about apps .TAXI DRIVERS DO NOT WANT AN APP .you read of vaccination for covid .They say that for it to work 70% would need to be vaxinated .Now an app to be really successfull would need the same sort of support there is an Economic Theory to explain why but Im not going to bother me bollox explaining that .Here is the reality people drive taxies because it is a cash business they delude themselves thinking they are making great money because they have a pocket full of Gelt at the end of every shift they go cost blind dont see the costs of running the business and they think they are fooling the tax man and there in lies the stupidity .We were offered an opportunity by Alan Kelly but never took it up .He said he wanted all drivers aligned and the industry to be cashless .We shoild of called for the NTA to set up an app paid for out of our licence fees but the usual Fucktards saw this as THE FUCKING TAXMAN WILL KNOW WHAT WE EARN.and thought they would get caught for income tax on profits after costs .Instead they opted for going with Dispatchers and Apps that charge a % of your earnings before costs . The advantages of a state run app was no commission .Yes the app would know what you earned but the taxman can get that information from the app providers or justask you .It would of discouraged double jobbers as they would of exhausted theit Tax Allowancea in their primary employment ,it would on increased safety as most jobs would of been done in app .The opportunity to get the government to set up an App was lost your arse is now owned by Free Now because thats what you asked for .Drivers gave about 80 MILLION in subsidies to Hailo by not charging the PUC and giving free waiting time .No other app will ever get that sort of suicidal support .


My arse isn't owned by freenow as I don't use the app. you lost me at Alan Kelly to be honest, the man is not to be trusted.

A cashless society isn't a good thing in my opinion. greedy drivers is what will always let us down, some drivers would drive over their granny for a fare.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 05, 2020, 10:19:40 am
1990 my arse is CERTAINLY not owned by FN ,or any dispatcher.I also railed against a cashless industry,and still do.I have found there was no support for my ideas,and although I dont want dispatchers,OR a cashless industry,I suppose the idea of a FAIR  ,and EQUAL distribution of work run by a TRANSPARENT  GOVERNMENT APP slightly more appealing then the gangsters who currently have industry in their greedy mits
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 05, 2020, 10:32:30 am
Would you ever change the record.
You grumpy bitter old man.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 05, 2020, 10:35:26 am
Ah hack.youve recovered from your drinking bout then. ? Only the way you were talking last night,you were either jealous or pissed,but probably both
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 05, 2020, 10:36:07 am
Quote 1990 {A cashless society isn't a good thing in my opinion.}How did you recieve your Covid Coin ?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 05, 2020, 10:39:10 am
Oh Jack ,you said you didnt know what the household benefits package was last nite,well its where I get a good chunck paid off my gas,or electric bill,in addition to no more having to pay for my TV licence,and dont forget my free travel as well.is that a green eyed monster I see on my screen ?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 05, 2020, 10:40:13 am
1990 Let me explain to you like I tried to explain to others who talk about apps .TAXI DRIVERS DO NOT WANT AN APP .you read of vaccination for covid .They say that for it to work 70% would need to be vaxinated .Now an app to be really successfull would need the same sort of support there is an Economic Theory to explain why but Im not going to bother me bollox explaining that .Here is the reality people drive taxies because it is a cash business they delude themselves thinking they are making great money because they have a pocket full of Gelt at the end of every shift they go cost blind dont see the costs of running the business and they think they are fooling the tax man and there in lies the stupidity .We were offered an opportunity by Alan Kelly but never took it up .He said he wanted all drivers aligned and the industry to be cashless .We shoild of called for the NTA to set up an app paid for out of our licence fees but the usual Fucktards saw this as THE FUCKING TAXMAN WILL KNOW WHAT WE EARN.and thought they would get caught for income tax on profits after costs .Instead they opted for going with Dispatchers and Apps that charge a % of your earnings before costs . The advantages of a state run app was no commission .Yes the app would know what you earned but the taxman can get that information from the app providers or justask you .It would of discouraged double jobbers as they would of exhausted theit Tax Allowancea in their primary employment ,it would on increased safety as most jobs would of been done in app .The opportunity to get the government to set up an App was lost your arse is now owned by Free Now because thats what you asked for .Drivers gave about 80 MILLION in subsidies to Hailo by not charging the PUC and giving free waiting time .No other app will ever get that sort of suicidal support .

An APP run by the NTA would be a disaster, all stick and no carrot, there'd be fines for starting late or finishing early, doctors notes required for when you're sick, limited holidays and driver recruitment promos every time a few jobs aren't covered
There is nothing wrong with the way FN operate, it's very transparent and they use incentives to try cover the work, everyone has the opportunity to be a Ken if they so desire, it's not favouritism it's business, muppet Taxi drivers moaning because it's all they know how to do.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 05, 2020, 10:48:38 am
Oh Jack ,you said you didnt know what the household benefits package was last nite,well its where I get a good chunck paid off my gas,or electric bill,in addition to no more having to pay for my TV licence,and dont forget my free travel as well.is that a green eyed monster I see on my screen ?

So it’s something for OAPs.
I still have a long way to go yet.
I do hope when I reach your age I won’t be as bitter as you.
Live your own life and don’t be worried about dispatchers or FN.
Your time is limited on the planet.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 05, 2020, 10:49:03 am
Quote 1990 {A cashless society isn't a good thing in my opinion.}How did you recieve your Covid Coin ?



it was sent to my bank account. why? imagine a cashless society, that is when government would really have us under their total control, they could do anything they wanted. they are already threatening to stop payments to anyone considering a foreign holiday.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 05, 2020, 10:52:51 am
Oh Jack ,you said you didnt know what the household benefits package was last nite,well its where I get a good chunck paid off my gas,or electric bill,in addition to no more having to pay for my TV licence,and dont forget my free travel as well.is that a green eyed monster I see on my screen ?

So it’s something for OAPs.
I still have a long way to go yet.
I do hope when I reach your age I won’t be as bitter as you.
Live your own life and don’t be worried about dispatchers or FN.
Your time is limited on the planet.
your quite right jocko,dont work to hard now
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: taxi1990 on July 05, 2020, 10:54:12 am
1990 my arse is CERTAINLY not owned by FN ,or any dispatcher.I also railed against a cashless industry,and still do.I have found there was no support for my ideas,and although I dont want dispatchers,OR a cashless industry,I suppose the idea of a FAIR  ,and EQUAL distribution of work run by a TRANSPARENT  GOVERNMENT APP slightly more appealing then the gangsters who currently have industry in their greedy mits



How long would it stay like that though, some chancer in the government would take an envelope and then it would be the same as freenow.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 05, 2020, 10:55:15 am
Jacko I know a good physiologist who deals with jealousy,if you want I can give you his number ?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Pugwat on July 05, 2020, 11:25:13 am
So you have to confirm your income has collapsed?

I got a text from a mate last night to say there was a massive Q on the Green and no Taxis about .... checked the FN App .....


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They'll be be on the Radio Monday complaining about the lack of taxis and drivers sponging off the dole, well done lads .... our reputation goes further down the drain
Just listening to the radio and delighted I didn't go out to work last night.
Absolute chaos with people drinking on the streets. No face masks and no social distancing. Don't be surprised if pubs are closed again.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 05, 2020, 11:26:56 am
https://lovindublin.com/dublin/57-the-headline-very-disappointed-with-the-behaviour-in-the-city/?fbclid=IwAR0eaTVuldhqHIQHh95rETwCmsnWoHDFPftDdKOEQhtZs4bwwvwauZBSP9M
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 05, 2020, 12:29:13 pm
Moan because there's too many people, moan because there's not enough people, the only reason you're allowed stay on the payment is if there's a collapse in income, that excuse has expired.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 05, 2020, 01:26:11 pm
Moan because there's too many people, moan because there's not enough people, the only reason you're allowed stay on the payment is if there's a collapse in income, that excuse has expired.

Its not an excuse and it has not expired.  If you want to go out and risk your health and that of your loved ones fire away but stop trying to make others feel like they're sponging because they're being cautious.  I'll go back to work next month, when everything is open again and I'm good and ready, not before hand.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 05, 2020, 01:50:58 pm
Apart from the fact that I'm lazy and and disinterested in getting back on the road with the current restrictions.
I'd probably need to get an NCT date first,try pass it then suitability ,maybe buy a sneeze screen, pay my insurance premium or at least a decent deposit.

Could cost a bit TBH.Or maybe wait it out because we're probably looking at a second lock down.It's nice to be in a position not to have a car loan payments.I owe this industry SFA so will return when I need the cash.

If I'm not cut the off dole by insurance renewal date (early August)I'll put a cover over the car and not renew even the private cover.It's about €800.I'll use me bike..
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 05, 2020, 02:42:58 pm
Moan because there's too many people, moan because there's not enough people, the only reason you're allowed stay on the payment is if there's a collapse in income, that excuse has expired.

Its not an excuse and it has not expired.  If you want to go out and risk your health and that of your loved ones fire away but stop trying to make others feel like they're sponging because they're being cautious.  I'll go back to work next month, when everything is open again and I'm good and ready, not before hand.

You can stay out of work because you are afraid of getting sick but you cannot claim the payment for that reason, your income must have collapsed to get PUP, that excuse has expired.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 05, 2020, 02:45:03 pm
Apart from the fact that I'm lazy and and disinterested in getting back on the road with the current restrictions.
I'd probably need to get an NCT date first,try pass it then suitability ,maybe buy a sneeze screen, pay my insurance premium or at least a decent deposit.

Could cost a bit TBH.Or maybe wait it out because we're probably looking at a second lock down.It's nice to be in a position not to have a car loan payments.I owe this industry SFA so will return when I need the cash.

If I'm not cut the off dole by insurance renewal date (early August)I'll put a cover over the car and not renew even the private cover.It's about €800.I'll use me bike..

Probably what the back to work grant is for?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 05, 2020, 02:51:04 pm
Yes Roy some of that will be covered by the grant.Still haven't gotten word from welfare to see if I'm getting cut down.I'll know tomorrow at midnight what hits my account.

Many drivers will just wait it to out for as long as possible.Those with bigger financial commitments can't afford to wait and see.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 05, 2020, 03:04:44 pm
Moan because there's too many people, moan because there's not enough people, the only reason you're allowed stay on the payment is if there's a collapse in income, that excuse has expired.

Its not an excuse and it has not expired.  If you want to go out and risk your health and that of your loved ones fire away but stop trying to make others feel like they're sponging because they're being cautious.  I'll go back to work next month, when everything is open again and I'm good and ready, not before hand.

You can stay out of work because you are afraid of getting sick but you cannot claim the payment for that reason, your income must have collapsed to get PUP, that excuse has expired.

So things are back to pre covid levels then are they? I beg to differ.  Id go as far as to say its nowhere near that yet and my income is still significantly impacted. I'll wait until everything is open before I go back. Until then I will claim my legal entitlement of the pup to feed my family.  If you feel its ok for you to return now, work away but don't try make out im a sponger for not going back. The government think its ok to claim the pup until August but i suppose you know better.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 05, 2020, 03:44:05 pm
Your chances of dying from that cunty ting are bout 20 /1
An yur kids or mot wont be near yu ...if ya survive yu very well cud be wheezing rest yur life an pissin yur pants nappy on cause yur kidneys fuked an yur heart muscle is bollivxed an yu cud have a heart attack gasping for breath goin up the stairs runnin after yur mot wit yur family jewels in yur hand but yu wont be able to perform because yull be askin her wer
She left yur oxygen bottle an mask an yull be  cursing the chinese that eat rats an bats an shit for the rest of yur life .....
Fuk that ....
I'm claiming the 350 ....its my money ...comes from my taxes
The banks got 60 billion of me pension fund an for sum inexpickables reason I'm supposed to feel guilty staying away from the chinese flu ......
I told yis yu all mad ......I wonder is saint itas still open or will I head over to Brendans this time .....before the second out break in 2 weeks time
Poor cnuts
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 05, 2020, 03:45:59 pm
Bleedin nutters the human race  ::)
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 05, 2020, 03:50:32 pm
https://news.sky.com/story/former-head-of-mi6-says-theory-coronavirus-was-made-in-wuhan-lab-must-not-be-dismissed-as-conspiracy-12021693

The chinese have stated they will own the world by 2050 ...
Get yurself a gun as johnny says
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 05, 2020, 03:51:10 pm
You're absolutely correct there octy. Id imagine wave two will have us in lockdown for Christmas.  They're only letting us out to play for a while then back in again. I'll wait.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 05, 2020, 04:09:24 pm
You're absolutely correct there octy. Id imagine wave two will have us in lockdown for Christmas.  They're only letting us out to play for a while then back in again. I'll wait.

Yep horse ....give it a cople weeks ide say .....anyway I'm going try get out this game ...probably dreaming tho me bean an owl cantaloupe cantakerus obnoxiously boring silly
Short fuse smelly owl fart that's past his sell by date and gone loop the loop in the cabaza an smells of elderberries an oxo
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 05, 2020, 04:10:08 pm
 ::)
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 05, 2020, 04:17:29 pm
I'd like to get out too but with age and back issues the choices are limited.  Plus I don't think I could take orders off someone half me age, unless its turn left, turn right. I'll keep going for now unless something magically pops up.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 05, 2020, 04:23:21 pm
You're absolutely correct there octy. Id imagine wave two will have us in lockdown for Christmas.  They're only letting us out to play for a while then back in again. I'll wait.

Yep horse ....give it a cople weeks ide say .....anyway I'm going try get out this game ...probably dreaming tho me bean an owl cantaloupe cantakerus obnoxiously boring silly
Short fuse smelly owl fart that's past his sell by date and gone loop the loop in the cabaza an smells of elderberries an oxo
ccty welcome to the club.jack fukkoff describes me in similer fashion,only worse
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: dalymount on July 05, 2020, 04:31:11 pm
Ive a pain in me hole with people calling it free money.its NOT free money,its the money you and I as irish tax payers  paid into the exchequer to be given back when needed
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 05, 2020, 06:24:31 pm
Profoundly upsetting’
Meanwhile, a doctor has said he believes the country is “weeks away” from a second wave of coronavirus after witnessing large crowds gathered outside pubs in Dublin city centre on Saturday night.

Dr Maitiú Ó Tuathail, the former president of the National Association of General Practitioners (NAGP), said the city centre felt like “All Ireland football final night” and found it “profoundly upsetting” to see the streets packed with people.

Dr Ó Tuathail finished working with the ambulance service at 10pm on Saturday and decided to drive through the city after hearing from colleagues that “town was mobbed”.

     
“The best way I could describe it was it felt like All Ireland football final night and it felt like Dublin had won, that was the vibe in Dublin city last night, it was just completely rammed,” he told the Brendan O’Connor show on RTÉ Radio One on Sunday.

“There were guards everywhere and they were doing their best but it was just completely rammed.”

Dr Ó Tuathail said there was “a festival atmosphere” in the city centre and it felt like “a slap in the face to those that have broken their backs trying to keep the country working over the last three months”.

“I really felt that way and it was really anxiety inducing. Those on the front line have been psychologically traumatised by what they have experienced over the last three months and they’re just not ready to face into it again,” he added.

“After last night I really think we’re weeks away from a second wave and my colleagues on the front line are just not ready for it psychologically.”

Dr Ó Tuathail said he was not trying to be “a killjoy” and that his own father was a publican in Co Galway who had been planning for the last two months how to reopen his own bar.

“I’m as keen as the rest of us to go and have a pint in my local but the vast majority of pubs will do this safely but it’s the few that won’t that will ruin it for the rest of us and the rest of the industry,” he said.

Dr Ó Tuathail also said the risks associated with foreign travel were “huge” and urged holidaymakers to stay in Ireland this summer rather than go abroad.

“It’s very simple in my mind, what we’re asking people to do is sacrifice one summer holiday abroad this year and to put their country and their loved ones before themselves for once. That’s all we’re asking people to do,” he said.


“This is a once-in-a-lifetime event. I think you would be completely bananas, to put it mildly, to go on holidays abroad this year.”
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: silverbullet on July 05, 2020, 07:06:56 pm
Profoundly upsetting’
Meanwhile, a doctor has said he believes the country is “weeks away” from a second wave of coronavirus after witnessing large crowds gathered outside pubs in Dublin city centre on Saturday night.

Dr Maitiú Ó Tuathail, the former president of the National Association of General Practitioners (NAGP), said the city centre felt like “All Ireland football final night” and found it “profoundly upsetting” to see the streets packed with people.

Dr Ó Tuathail finished working with the ambulance service at 10pm on Saturday and decided to drive through the city after hearing from colleagues that “town was mobbed”.

     
“The best way I could describe it was it felt like All Ireland football final night and it felt like Dublin had won, that was the vibe in Dublin city last night, it was just completely rammed,” he told the Brendan O’Connor show on RTÉ Radio One on Sunday.

“There were guards everywhere and they were doing their best but it was just completely rammed.”

Dr Ó Tuathail said there was “a festival atmosphere” in the city centre and it felt like “a slap in the face to those that have broken their backs trying to keep the country working over the last three months”.

“I really felt that way and it was really anxiety inducing. Those on the front line have been psychologically traumatised by what they have experienced over the last three months and they’re just not ready to face into it again,” he added.

“After last night I really think we’re weeks away from a second wave and my colleagues on the front line are just not ready for it psychologically.”

Dr Ó Tuathail said he was not trying to be “a killjoy” and that his own father was a publican in Co Galway who had been planning for the last two months how to reopen his own bar.

“I’m as keen as the rest of us to go and have a pint in my local but the vast majority of pubs will do this safely but it’s the few that won’t that will ruin it for the rest of us and the rest of the industry,” he said.

Dr Ó Tuathail also said the risks associated with foreign travel were “huge” and urged holidaymakers to stay in Ireland this summer rather than go abroad.

“It’s very simple in my mind, what we’re asking people to do is sacrifice one summer holiday abroad this year and to put their country and their loved ones before themselves for once. That’s all we’re asking people to do,” he said.


“This is a once-in-a-lifetime event. I think you would be completely bananas, to put it mildly, to go on holidays abroad this year.”
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/large-crowds-gathering-in-dublin-city-centre-jeopardising-public-health-say-vintners-39341752.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/large-crowds-gathering-in-dublin-city-centre-jeopardising-public-health-say-vintners-39341752.html)

Would you really want this trash in your cab?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: watty on July 05, 2020, 07:07:50 pm
Profoundly upsetting’
Meanwhile, a doctor has said he believes the country is “weeks away” from a second wave of coronavirus after witnessing large crowds gathered outside pubs in Dublin city centre on Saturday night.

<snip>
But that's the future.  And the world might end next year.  The €350 is about now.  SW might argue you can't stay home because of something that might happen in the future.  Go back working now and *if* something bad happens in the future, the Govt will look at the €350 again.  I'm not saying that's right or wrong - just thinking out loud.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Belker on July 06, 2020, 11:27:41 am
I know where you're coming from dm, believe me, just ask ken how much abuse I gave him for being one of their bum boys. Unfortunately we have to look at the reality of whats happening.  This disease has changed everything.  Word is there is no street or rank work, certainly not enough to make a living from. The old days are gone. So I'm looking at possibly becoming a bum boy too, like ken, just so I can survive in this industry.  Sad, yes. Reality,  yes. Am I happy about it, no.


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Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 06, 2020, 11:42:16 am
You seem to be doing alright ken. I wonder will it still be that busy next month when everyone is back working.  Unlikely I'd say.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 06, 2020, 12:30:21 pm
You seem to be doing alright ken. I wonder will it still be that busy next month when everyone is back working.  Unlikely I'd say.

Most would be happy being half that busy, quarter if you're happy on the PUP .. sure Saturdays taking were worth more than the PUP on it's own FFS.
I wonder is Ken sticking to the 11 hour rule and does FN police it?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Tony on July 06, 2020, 12:39:39 pm
Just incase any of ye think this pox is a joke and it only kills old people



Broadway star Nick Cordero dies due to coronavirus complications https://jrnl.ie/5142328



Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Horse on July 06, 2020, 12:52:25 pm
You seem to be doing alright ken. I wonder will it still be that busy next month when everyone is back working.  Unlikely I'd say.

Most would be happy being half that busy, quarter if you're happy on the PUP .. sure Saturdays taking were worth more than the PUP on it's own FFS.
I wonder is Ken sticking to the 11 hour rule and does FN police it?

I'll still wait till next month before I make any decisions about going back. I dont care how much other drivers are getting out there at the moment,  it'll all change next month when 50 gazillion drivers head back to work. If ken ain't breaking the 11 hour rule he will be next month if he expects days like the ones he just posted. Dont forget either that that was the first weekend the pubs were open in months so was bound to be busy. Let's see how the next 3 or 4 weekends pan out. I doubt they'll be anything spectacular.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Justin Time on July 06, 2020, 12:58:57 pm
Just because "some" businesses have opened up it doesnt mean everything is back to normal.
It's not.

Covid19 hasn't gone away you know.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 06, 2020, 01:07:21 pm
Don't be minding these lads they obviously have huge overheads or cunty wives(or husbands for the benders) or both and can't afford to stay off work.

Some have made shitty financial decisions and are paying the price now by risking their own health. Let them at it.They never seem to post their tax bills for some reason only their gross earnings.Madness.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 06, 2020, 01:24:42 pm
Don't be minding these lads they obviously have huge overheads or cunty wives(or husbands for the benders) or both and can't afford to stay off work.

Some have made shitty financial decisions and are paying the price now by risking their own health. Let them at it.They never seem to post their tax bills for some reason only their gross earnings.Madness.
Here merco .... that reminds me .....all them rickshaw drivers from brazil an them immigrants workin that cant get the dole
They be all workin in town and will have to pay ther rent an the drug dealer wont be delayed in getting paid  so they be all coming back in an spreading it an all them taxi drivers jihadists that share a taxi in ireland with ther cousins who fly on ryan air from england at the weekends they all be spreading it all over temple bar an the airport ......its going be fuking worser cause everybody got a pain ther bollix wit hand sanitizer an washing ther hands an shopping and stuff .....
I was readin about the epidemic in Melbourne......apparently it was caused by immigrants.....anyone flying into the country had to isolate in a hotel and it was policed by private security firms who employed cheap immigrants security blokes an apparently.......now get this .......they wer shagging all the owlones in the hotels that wer stuck in the rooms and they wer gettin the virus off them ......dirty cnuts
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 06, 2020, 01:45:00 pm
I think it's mad that the international flights are what brought it here but Mickey I leary thinks we should all be hopping back on a plane for the weekend away with the lads again.Everything is fixed they think.They've extended the travel restrictions again today for two weeks too.

Air travel is probably far too cheap.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 06, 2020, 02:15:33 pm
Rate reductions in Covid coin from tomorrow .

However as new "two-tier" rules take effect, over 110,400 PUP claimants who were earning less than €200 a week gross before the €350 a week PUP was introduced on March 16 will tomorrow see their weekly welfare payment fall to €203.

This is equivalent to Jobseekers Benefit. 

The Department stressed that while these recipients will lose €147 a week, they will still be receiving more than their pre-Covid earnings - and that all claimants who earned more than €200 remain eligible for the full €350 PUP support.
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Billy boy on July 06, 2020, 02:21:47 pm
I'd say alot of drivers on here say they make less that 200 a week. They deserve fuck all...
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: john m on July 06, 2020, 02:25:21 pm
I'd say alot of drivers on here say they make less that 200 a week. They deserve fuck all...

Have you any evidence for that statement ?
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 06, 2020, 02:46:23 pm

Covid19 hasn't gone away you know.

You might be saying that for a few years yet!
Do you think you'll still be on the scratcher that long?
We're all going to have to learn to live with Covid, the question you have to answer honestly is: has your income collapsed?
I've been out a week ... it hasn't.
Looks like it's Christmas down in Cork!
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Octavia1 on July 06, 2020, 03:15:29 pm

Covid19 hasn't gone away you know.

You might be saying that for a few years yet!
Do you think you'll still be on the scratcher that long?
We're all going to have to learn to live with Covid, the question you have to answer honestly is: has your income collapsed?
I've been out a week ... it hasn't.
Looks like it's Christmas down in Cork!
Are yu an ambassadors toao? Ide say some have regulars and some have licky lacky statuses.....no point in pleb like me going back ide say
Title: Re: Covid Payment - confirmation
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 06, 2020, 03:50:51 pm

Covid19 hasn't gone away you know.

You might be saying that for a few years yet!
Do you think you'll still be on the scratcher that long?
We're all going to have to learn to live with Covid, the question you have to answer honestly is: has your income collapsed?
I've been out a week ... it hasn't.
Looks like it's Christmas down in Cork!
Are yu an ambassadors toao? Ide say some have regulars and some have licky lacky statuses.....no point in pleb like me going back ide say
No, (just because I don't want the advertising stickers on my Taxi)
I do have some personal bookings (currently at least 2  every day)