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Title: Advice Please
Post by: Justin Time on July 27, 2020, 11:35:12 am
Been off the road these past few mths,reduced my insurance to "domestic" and returned the daisies.

However, I have my NCT coming up and the suitability test. Now to go for the suitability test you must revert back to your Insurance as being "taxi insurance", you cant apply on the domestic.

I got onto the Insurance and they told me as soon as its back as a taxi insurance I am  "officially back working".

My dilemma is this, when the car is passed out after suitability, what do I do??

According to the Insurance people once you have your daisies back up, you are now classed as being working and you wont be able to claim the Covid payment.

I'm a keshie and as everyone knows the airport is dead, numbers are way down and theres absolutely no way I could make any kind of a living with whatever numbers of passengers are coming in.

Can anyone please advise me as to what I can do? I dont know who to turn to or what the hell to do.
Anxious, is not the word!
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 11:50:43 am
Regarding the "you're officially back working" bit is bollox.....i've restored my insurance and have a daisy refitting appointment end of week.....i told both NTA and AXA that i won't be returning to work...the NTA are refusing me an extension to my licence suspension and therefore i have to restore it or they said it'll expire....a bit ridiculous considering it's licenced until Feb 21,they did say that i didn't have to create a driver link until i was ready to return to work so as far as i'm concerned that's good enough for me to continue receiving PUP.....only downside is that i'm now back to paying €203 per month for insurance(Nov being the last payment).
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 27, 2020, 11:51:05 am
Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Punter on July 27, 2020, 11:54:25 am
In my mind you dont need taxi cover to do NCT as the requirement is that the car has passed NCT within 90 days, to do SGS taxi insurance is required--SGS available in days (as I got one in 48 hours)so you could stall full cover until SGS appointment !
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 11:56:43 am
Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Obviously cos his licence will expire and will incur restoration fee of €500 plus NCT,i can understand completely why licence holders would do that...only downside is insurance cost.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 27, 2020, 12:00:50 pm
 Hal Licence reactivation fees have been suspended during the pandemic.I dunno the exact start and finish dates.

Have yis received any new communication to say they'd start charging for restoring a licence?

This is an extract from one of the emails they sent out...

"""""Will I incur late renewal fees if I cannot renew my SPSV vehicle licence?

Any SPSV vehicle licence holder who is unable to complete a licence renewal due to the COVID-19 pandemic, will not be subject to any ‘late renewal fee’"""

It's in here somewhere.

http://media.nationaltransport.ie/lp/e/51843/e2c75b1f9b2d1dde43e3d99fee13e4d8/201005429 (http://media.nationaltransport.ie/lp/e/51843/e2c75b1f9b2d1dde43e3d99fee13e4d8/201005429)
 
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 12:09:56 pm
I was told last week that i didn't have to reactivate my licence but then followed quickly with the "a €500 fee will be charged to restore it within one year".....take from that what you will,i'm sure if someone with fund would like to rake a legal challenge as to why they would expire a licence that is good for another year regardless of it being suspended during the pandemic....i don't see why it can't be suspended any further than three months.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 12:12:43 pm
@MFH......both the NCT and NTA are back open for business.....that means fukall now.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 27, 2020, 12:16:36 pm
Hmmm Hal I'm gonna wait and see.They did send out that communicating on April 17 so I'm not gonna sweat about it yet.

Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 27, 2020, 12:23:08 pm
Been off the road these past few mths,reduced my insurance to "domestic" and returned the daisies.

However, I have my NCT coming up and the suitability test. Now to go for the suitability test you must revert back to your Insurance as being "taxi insurance", you cant apply on the domestic.

I got onto the Insurance and they told me as soon as its back as a taxi insurance I am  "officially back working".

My dilemma is this, when the car is passed out after suitability, what do I do??

According to the Insurance people once you have your daisies back up, you are now classed as being working and you wont be able to claim the Covid payment.

I'm a keshie and as everyone knows the airport is dead, numbers are way down and theres absolutely no way I could make any kind of a living with whatever numbers of passengers are coming in.

Can anyone please advise me as to what I can do? I dont know who to turn to or what the hell to do.
Anxious, is not the word!
Thanks in advance

You're a Dublin Taxi driver with an Airport permit, there is work available to you outside the Kesh. my own normal business model requires the Airport to be functional: https://irelandbytaxi.com/ . however currently the Airport isn't functioning normally therefore I have to deploy my services elsewhere.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 27, 2020, 12:36:12 pm
The airport isn't closed. In fact I was talking with a Dept Of Agriculture official based there over the weekend and he said it never closed and, in fact, efficiency has been geatly enhanced during the pandemic.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Octavia1 on July 27, 2020, 12:40:32 pm
I was told last week that i didn't have to reactivate my licence but then followed quickly with the "a €500 fee will be charged to restore it within one year".....take from that what you will,i'm sure if someone with fund would like to rake a legal challenge as to why they would expire a licence that is good for another year regardless of it being suspended during the pandemic....i don't see why it can't be suspended any further than three months.
Stop ringing them if they dont agree with you ....or keep ringing them till they do .....
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 27, 2020, 12:49:38 pm
I was told the week before last that mine was restored and that was reflected within the online register. Then I got an email saying I had to have stickers that weren't taken off put back on and produce some sort of undefined document indicating that insurance has been reinstated. I rang the halfwitted morons - call answered in 3 mins 42 seconds thanks to Watty keeping the riff raff at bay - today and they said the email applies so I have to follow that procedure and someone will ring back "in the next few days" to go through the incorrect advice I was given after listening back to the relevant call.

I rang Axa and they're totally confused - in fact their taxi personnel are engaged in a meeting to ascertain what, if anything, they can do about the current mess - i.e. men looking for taxi insurance with no intention of operating taxi services - as I type.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 12:57:23 pm
Indeed Octy......the less interaction i have with the NTA the better,useless shower of fuks,the only decisions they've made have made it difficult for licence holders,from not accepting the 4 month NCT extension,screens,face mask wearing to not facilitating more than a three month suspension to licences,if we all went back to work tomorrow Roy would be bolloxed altogether!!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Justin Time on July 27, 2020, 01:01:10 pm
Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Because my licence it up in mid August. If I don't get passed out I will lose my licence.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 01:06:44 pm
Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Because my licence it up in mid August. If I don't get passed out I will lose my licence.

You won't lose your licence J....but you will be faced with a €500 restoration fee plus NCT costs...and this has to be done within a year.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 27, 2020, 01:07:18 pm
JT you have up to a year to restore it.Whether you pay fees or not is a different matter.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Justin Time on July 27, 2020, 01:07:40 pm
Indeed Octy......the less interaction i have with the NTA the better,useless shower of fuks,the only decisions they've made have made it difficult for licence holders,from not accepting the 4 month NCT extension,screens,face mask wearing to not facilitating more than a three month suspension to licences,if we all went back to work tomorrow Roy would be bolloxed altogether!!

I agree, The NTA does seem to be in a mess and therein lies the problem.

My situation (as in workwise) will be exactly the same after I'm passed out in Aug as it is today.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Justin Time on July 27, 2020, 01:08:31 pm
Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Because my licence it up in mid August. If I don't get passed out I will lose my licence.

You won't lose your licence J....but you will be faced with a €500 restoration fee plus NCT costs...and this has to be done within a year.

So it will cost me 500 euro to restore it? Are you serious ?????
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Justin Time on July 27, 2020, 01:09:22 pm
JT you have up to a year to restore it.Whether you pay fees or not is a different matter.

so if I dont do the suitability until later in the year , it will cost me 500 euro?

Thats unreal
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 01:12:00 pm
Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Because my licence it up in mid August. If I don't get passed out I will lose my licence.

You won't lose your licence J....but you will be faced with a €500 restoration fee plus NCT costs...and this has to be done within a year.

So it will cost me 500 euro to restore it? Are you serious ?????

Yeah...that's a definite!!
So i understand why licence holders would opt to restore insurance for LRA purposes.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 27, 2020, 01:15:34 pm
You won't. You can restore an expired licence any time within a year of expiration. Logically, the only reason to renew it is to work it so one can't blame Welfare for cutting your dole. However, when they do that it only takes a phone call to get it back provided your income is significantly impacted by COVID '19. If you have any problems contact Richard Boyd Barrett or your local SPBP representative. From NTA email:

If you cannot renew the licence by this date, you may book a renewal assessment after this date, when you are ready to return to operating your vehicle. Any SPSV vehicle licence holder who is unable to complete a licence renewal due to the COVID-19 pandemic, will not be subject to any ‘late renewal fee’.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 27, 2020, 01:18:20 pm
Just off the phone to the NTA and as of now there are no late restoration fees.They nice lady says they'll send out communication or update the website if that changes.

Ring them if yis want but that's all there is to it.

Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Justin Time on July 27, 2020, 01:23:02 pm
Thanks for all your responses.

To be clear, Are you saying that after I get my NCT I dont have to book in for the suitability even though my licence is up early August?

That I should hold out until later in the year and I wont be charged the 500 licence fee, just the suitabilty???

Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 27, 2020, 01:25:03 pm
You're welcome.

Useless shower of morons don't know what they're doing. They tell one man one thing and another man something completely different... or one of them tells a man one thing and another of them tells the same man something completely different. You might be better off asking your local SPBP representative to deal with them on your behalf...
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 27, 2020, 01:27:35 pm
JT my licence is in the same boat...until they announce it on their site you won't have to pay any additional fees.Keep an eye on it.



Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 01:31:28 pm
So it's one rule for licence renewals and one for licence suspensions?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Justin Time on July 27, 2020, 01:33:24 pm
It seems to be a bit of a clusterfuck by the looks of things!

Thanks all, for the advice  ;)
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 27, 2020, 01:37:54 pm
I understood it perfectly months ago but yous lads made me second guess my own situation.

I wonder how many drivers unnecessarily reactivated their plates over this confusion.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 27, 2020, 01:42:44 pm
You're welcome, JIT.

What if your plate doesn't expire. Apparently you can choose between paying insurance that you don't need or losing your licence?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Justin Time on July 27, 2020, 02:01:01 pm
You're welcome, JIT.

What if your plate doesn't expire. Apparently you can choose between paying insurance that you don't need or losing your licence?

Well as of Aug 1st my insurance is back as "taxi" insurance as I dont know when I will get a date for suitability, I was just playing safe!

When I'm passed out,I'm officially back as a full time taxi, yet as i said previous, my work situation hasnt changed!!!!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 02:03:03 pm
You're welcome, JIT.

What if your plate doesn't expire. Apparently you can choose between paying insurance that you don't need or losing your licence?

Indeed...just off the blower myself to Oran....and  as per my phonecall from last week with Wendy who didn't explain that if my licence did expire that as of now it would only cost me €150 plus NCT costs to reactivate it but it's gonna cost me €203 per month insurance cost(Aug-Nov) to reactivate it now(appointment Fri for daisy refitting).
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 27, 2020, 02:07:48 pm
€203/month is expensive for insurance but I think you said you're paying nearly half that for SDP cover. I guess it depends on when you intend to return to work... bearing in mind that our puppy dole is getting the chop in a couple of weeks...

Did you get a chit from Axa stating that your insurance has been reinstated?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 27, 2020, 02:16:10 pm
First drop in COVID money is September 17 from what I've read.€250 I'll be on till February 1.Then 203 till April fools day.Better get some hobbies for myself.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 02:18:59 pm
€203/month is expensive for insurance but I think you said you're paying nearly half that for SDP cover. I guess it depends on when you intend to return to work... bearing in mind that our puppy dole is getting the chop in a couple of weeks...

Did you get a chit from Axa stating that your insurance has been reinstated?
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I received the email as promised from Daniel in AXA which according to Wendy from the NTA will be accepted by the daisy refitter....the same Wendy who told me i'd be charged a €500 licence restoration + NCT fees if i didn't pay AXA €203 per month(Aug-Nov),i also requested the contents of the email in letter form which he said could take 5 working days to arrive.
I was paying a tad over €80 per month for SD&P
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 27, 2020, 02:29:22 pm
So one month is costing you pretty much the same as letting the morons lapse your licence for no good reason. The man I was talking with in Axa just called me back and is going to email the undefined chit so I'll probably reluctantly go back to work when my puppy dole is reduced. He put a note on my file to the effect that I'm only restoring cover to satisfy NTA just in case the rules are altered going forward.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 27, 2020, 02:32:57 pm
First drop in COVID money is September 17 from what I've read.€250 I'll be on till February 1.Then 203 till April fools day.Better get some hobbies for myself.

Pfff... I thought it was from Aug 10... maybe I was a bit rash in restoring my insurance.

Are you going to "unrestore" yours and let the plate lapse, Hal... or have you decided?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 03:14:57 pm
First drop in COVID money is September 17 from what I've read.€250 I'll be on till February 1.Then 203 till April fools day.Better get some hobbies for myself.

Pfff... I thought it was from Aug 10... maybe I was a bit rash in restoring my insurance.

Are you going to "unrestore" yours and let the plate lapse, Hal... or have you decided?

Haven't decided yet but if AXA are continuing to facilitate reduced insurance..albeit at a cost....it would still be cheaper to expire the licence and reactivate it at a later date.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 27, 2020, 04:26:30 pm
Don't know why you bothered to expire the licence in the first place, i reduced my insurance, kept my stickers, then simply reinstated the insurance when I went back to work, fuck all that hassle for no good reason!
reinstate your licence, get your stickers back, the insurance company don't give a toss
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: C5 on July 27, 2020, 04:39:54 pm
Why would ye go to all that hassle of going private insurance and returning your daisies, I just unlinked myself from the taxi, I can be on the road again faster when I want to. And the covid payment drops to 300 euros in mid September if you earned 300 plus before.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 27, 2020, 04:53:14 pm
I was told the week before last that mine was restored and that was reflected within the online register. Then I got an email saying I had to have stickers that weren't taken off put back on and produce some sort of undefined document indicating that insurance has been reinstated. I rang the halfwitted morons - call answered in 3 mins 42 seconds thanks to Watty keeping the riff raff at bay - today and they said the email applies so I have to follow that procedure and someone will ring back "in the next few days" to go through the incorrect advice I was given after listening back to the relevant call.

I rang Axa and they're totally confused - in fact their taxi personnel are engaged in a meeting to ascertain what, if anything, they can do about the current mess - i.e. men looking for taxi insurance with no intention of operating taxi services - as I type.
well I know a few who NEVER sent back their dasies,at all and avoided all this shite
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 27, 2020, 08:11:10 pm
Don't know what that's all about from the insurers. I never changed to private, never returned no daisies and was never told by anyone in officialdom to do any of the above in order to claim pup. It's not the business of an insurance company or broker to pontificate about your welfare entitlements.

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: silverbullet on July 27, 2020, 08:16:49 pm
Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Because my licence it up in mid August. If I don't get passed out I will lose my licence.
There's no reactivation fee.

Do yor NCT then you have a three month window in which to decide what to do.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 27, 2020, 08:18:00 pm
I was told the week before last that mine was restored and that was reflected within the online register. Then I got an email saying I had to have stickers that weren't taken off put back on and produce some sort of undefined document indicating that insurance has been reinstated. I rang the halfwitted morons - call answered in 3 mins 42 seconds thanks to Watty keeping the riff raff at bay - today and they said the email applies so I have to follow that procedure and someone will ring back "in the next few days" to go through the incorrect advice I was given after listening back to the relevant call.

I rang Axa and they're totally confused - in fact their taxi personnel are engaged in a meeting to ascertain what, if anything, they can do about the current mess - i.e. men looking for taxi insurance with no intention of operating taxi services - as I type.
well I know a few who NEVER sent back their dasies,at all and avoided all this shite
Was there some sort of dictate issued to drivers at the beginning of all this saying we had to return daisies or we were still considered as working, therefore not entitled to claim pup? Cos neither I, nor anyone I know got any communication from anyone in that regard.

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: watty on July 27, 2020, 08:24:41 pm
It was one line on the last page of one of the newsletters.  Blink and you'll miss it.  It didn't say 'you must'... it was more of a 'you should'...

I'm in the same boat as you (I think).  I had one more DD payment on my insurance so I thought why bother?  And I have elderly parents so the taxi would have got me through the Garda checkpoints if it came to it.  The roofsign is in the boot since mid-March but my taxi was 'official' all that time.  I can print off receipts from my tamper-proof meter proving that I didn't take a fare since Mid-March.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 27, 2020, 08:38:25 pm
It was one line on the last page of one of the newsletters.  Blink and you'll miss it.  It didn't say 'you must'... it was more of a 'you should'...

I'm in the same boat as you (I think).  I had one more DD payment on my insurance so I thought why bother?  And I have elderly parents so the taxi would have got me through the Garda checkpoints if it came to it.  The roofsign is in the boot since mid-March but my taxi was 'official' all that time.  I can print off receipts from my tamper-proof meter proving that I didn't take a fare since Mid-March.
It's all a bit watery, them putting something at the bottom of a newsletter that not every driver probably reads, or receives, or gives two shits about. So I would not imagine there'd be any legality behind that stuff...

So anyway you didn't renew your insurance? I did, in July. Actually it would be fairer to say I didn't tell my friendly broker not to renew it. As you know it is standard procedure that they will automatically renew unless you specify otherwise.
In short, since I ceased working in mid march, I remained fully (taxi) insured, didn't return no daisies to nobody, applied for and received the pup and as far as I can see that's the way it was meant to be done.

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Justin Time on July 27, 2020, 10:27:18 pm
Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Because my licence it up in mid August. If I don't get passed out I will lose my licence.
There's no reactivation fee.

Do yor NCT then you have a three month window in which to decide what to do.

Youre throwing a spanner in the works now rofl rofl rofl

How have I got 3 mths to decide? when my licence is up mid Aug.
Some on here said you will have to pay 500 if u let it lapse!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Justin Time on July 27, 2020, 10:35:36 pm
It was one line on the last page of one of the newsletters.  Blink and you'll miss it.  It didn't say 'you must'... it was more of a 'you should'...

I'm in the same boat as you (I think).  I had one more DD payment on my insurance so I thought why bother?  And I have elderly parents so the taxi would have got me through the Garda checkpoints if it came to it.  The roofsign is in the boot since mid-March but my taxi was 'official' all that time.  I can print off receipts from my tamper-proof meter proving that I didn't take a fare since Mid-March.
It's all a bit watery, them putting something at the bottom of a newsletter that not every driver probably reads, or receives, or gives two shits about. So I would not imagine there'd be any legality behind that stuff...

So anyway you didn't renew your insurance? I did, in July. Actually it would be fairer to say I didn't tell my friendly broker not to renew it. As you know it is standard procedure that they will automatically renew unless you specify otherwise.
In short, since I ceased working in mid march, I remained fully (taxi) insured, didn't return no daisies to nobody, applied for and received the pup and as far as I can see that's the way it was meant to be done.

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I was a directive from the Whatchamacallit.

When I initially phoned my Insurance Co. last March about reducing my payments and getting the car onto domestic Insurance, they told me to contact the NTA.

So I called them and they said, you must return the green daisies,which I did.
 
Two weeks later I get an email from them saying, you should return the daisies AND your insurance cert!!

Phoned them about this, and told them I already sent in the daisies do you now want the Insurance Certs as well,(per your email ) I was told, "hold the line please".

She comes back and says you dont have to send in the cert. I asked her again was she sure, because I dont want any hassle when I go back to work to be told,you didnt return the cert so ,,,blah ,blah......

Anyhoo, she puts me on hold again, then comes back and  says "well, you dont have to send the cert in, but if it makes you more comfortable to do so,you can".

I mean For F**ks Sake!!!

Clueless!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 27, 2020, 10:42:00 pm
It was one line on the last page of one of the newsletters.  Blink and you'll miss it.  It didn't say 'you must'... it was more of a 'you should'...

I'm in the same boat as you (I think).  I had one more DD payment on my insurance so I thought why bother?  And I have elderly parents so the taxi would have got me through the Garda checkpoints if it came to it.  The roofsign is in the boot since mid-March but my taxi was 'official' all that time.  I can print off receipts from my tamper-proof meter proving that I didn't take a fare since Mid-March.
It's all a bit watery, them putting something at the bottom of a newsletter that not every driver probably reads, or receives, or gives two shits about. So I would not imagine there'd be any legality behind that stuff...

So anyway you didn't renew your insurance? I did, in July. Actually it would be fairer to say I didn't tell my friendly broker not to renew it. As you know it is standard procedure that they will automatically renew unless you specify otherwise.
In short, since I ceased working in mid march, I remained fully (taxi) insured, didn't return no daisies to nobody, applied for and received the pup and as far as I can see that's the way it was meant to be done.

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I was a directive from the Whatchamacallit.

When I initially phoned my Insurance Co. last March about reducing my payments and getting the car onto domestic Insurance, they told me to contact the NTA.

So I called them and they said, you must return the green daisies,which I did.
 
Two weeks later I get an email from them saying, you should return the daisies AND your insurance cert!!

Phoned them about this, and told them I already sent in the daisies do you now want the Insurance Certs as well,(per your email ) I was told, "hold the line please".

She comes back and says you dont have to send in the cert. I asked her again was she sure, because I dont want any hassle when I go back to work to be told,you didnt return the cert so ,,,blah ,blah......

Anyhoo, she puts me on hold again, then comes back and  says "well, you dont have to send the cert in, but if it makes you more comfortable to do so,you can".

I mean For F**ks Sake!!!

Clueless!
Yeah that wouldn't fill you with confidence in their wider competencies.
Was it worth your while going to domestic use? I didn't bother me hole because back in march the ins. Co. said the fuckin door stickers n'all would have to come off!

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 27, 2020, 10:54:52 pm
I was told the week before last that mine was restored and that was reflected within the online register. Then I got an email saying I had to have stickers that weren't taken off put back on and produce some sort of undefined document indicating that insurance has been reinstated. I rang the halfwitted morons - call answered in 3 mins 42 seconds thanks to Watty keeping the riff raff at bay - today and they said the email applies so I have to follow that procedure and someone will ring back "in the next few days" to go through the incorrect advice I was given after listening back to the relevant call.

I rang Axa and they're totally confused - in fact their taxi personnel are engaged in a meeting to ascertain what, if anything, they can do about the current mess - i.e. men looking for taxi insurance with no intention of operating taxi services - as I type.
well I know a few who NEVER sent back their dasies,at all and avoided all this shite
Was there some sort of dictate issued to drivers at the beginning of all this saying we had to return daisies or we were still considered as working, therefore not entitled to claim pup? Cos neither I, nor anyone I know got any communication from anyone in that regard.

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no there was nothing of that nature issued to drivers.what was relayed to drivers was,if you were going to reduce your cover,then you must return your dasies,for the reason that you are no longer operating a taxi for the period od suspension,and therefore had no entitlement to keep them on the car.rat made this point numerous times
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 11:01:19 pm
Was there some sort of dictate issued to drivers at the beginning of all this saying we had to return daisies or we were still considered as working, therefore not entitled to claim pup? Cos neither I, nor anyone I know got any communication from anyone in that regard.

It all started with the insurance companies offering to reduce cover to SD&P with the caveat that you must contact the NTA to break the driver link....and that's were the NTA started playing stupid,once you reduced your insurance cover you were obliged to suspend your licence as it was no longer covered for SPSV use...once you suspended it the emails started asking licence holders to remove the tamperproofs and send them to Galway....along with the SPSV licence cert(no insurance cert was requested to be returned to anyone)at no time did AXA or the NTA request that door decals be removed...although i'm surprised that the latter didn't tbh.
There was never any mention of PUPayments being stopped if you didn't do any of the above.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 27, 2020, 11:10:40 pm
Was there some sort of dictate issued to drivers at the beginning of all this saying we had to return daisies or we were still considered as working, therefore not entitled to claim pup? Cos neither I, nor anyone I know got any communication from anyone in that regard.

It all started with the insurance companies offering to reduce cover to SD&P with the caveat that you must contact the NTA to break the driver link....and that's were the NTA started playing stupid,once you reduced your insurance cover you were obliged to suspend your licence as it was no longer covered for SPSV use...once you suspended it the emails started asking licence holders to remove the tamperproofs and send them to Galway....along with the SPSV licence cert(no insurance cert was requested to be returned to anyone)at no time did AXA or the NTA request that door decals be removed...although i'm surprised that the latter didn't tbh.
There was never any mention of PUPayments being stopped if you didn't do any of the above.

Nothing to do with the covid payment, the NTA mentioned in one of it's leaflets that if you don't have taxi insurance you can't have a Taxi, therefore if you reduced your premium you must terminate your licence ... red tape bullshit that I  for one ignored
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 27, 2020, 11:11:45 pm
Was there some sort of dictate issued to drivers at the beginning of all this saying we had to return daisies or we were still considered as working, therefore not entitled to claim pup? Cos neither I, nor anyone I know got any communication from anyone in that regard.

It all started with the insurance companies offering to reduce cover to SD&P with the caveat that you must contact the NTA to break the driver link....and that's were the NTA started playing stupid,once you reduced your insurance cover you were obliged to suspend your licence as it was no longer covered for SPSV use...once you suspended it the emails started asking licence holders to remove the tamperproofs and send them to Galway....along with the SPSV licence cert(no insurance cert was requested to be returned to anyone)at no time did AXA or the NTA request that door decals be removed...although i'm surprised that the latter didn't tbh.
There was never any mention of PUPayments being stopped if you didn't do any of the above.
I knew that alright. Somebody else alluded to that in an earlier comment. It spooked me for a second. There's too much shite around this. In typical fashion, as always, the taxi driver gets the most convoluted, shitty, tortuous treatment and hoops to jump through in order to just get what most others breeze over. [emoji849]

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 27, 2020, 11:22:28 pm
Have any of you considered .You signed on for the Covid Coin as Taxi drivers who could not Social distance in line with government best guessing . if you now lapse your licence are you in fact actually unemployed as you no longer are a licenced taxi driver .How many of you have full filled the other qualifying criteria of being available for other work ie have any of you registered with any agency or applied for any jobs .Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 11:24:42 pm
Very true Jonno.....when you're obliged to carry a first aid kit that you're not trained to use,there's drivers out who can't even affix their D stickers the correct way on their roofsigns ffs.....let's not get started on stickers.....again!!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 11:31:45 pm
Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .

There was a line added to the criteria since Leo spoke in the last couple of days.

"are genuinely seeking work"
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 27, 2020, 11:36:52 pm
Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .

There was a line added to the criteria since Leo spoke in the last couple of days.

"are genuinely seeking work"

I have applied for about 40 jobs since lockdown through Jobs .ie and indeed .No great demand for Fat old men .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 27, 2020, 11:42:05 pm
Have any of you considered .You signed on for the Covid Coin as Taxi drivers who could not Social distance in line with government best guessing . if you now lapse your licence are you in fact actually unemployed as you no longer are a licenced taxi driver .How many of you have full filled the other qualifying criteria of being available for other work ie have any of you registered with any agency or applied for any jobs .Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .
The government narrative seems to be sneaking a bit away, since yesterday, from where it started out regarding conditions for claiming puppy.
From the beginning, I was under the impression that the 350 was to mitigate the damage done to ones trade until such a time as ones trade came back to a reasonable level as to keep one afloat, or until the period of pup ended (now pushed out till 2021).
I don't recall hearing any minister saying months ago that we were expected to be job seeking (notwithstanding the fact that a few hundred thousand others just lost their jobs)- as if we had given up our careers altogether! I've shed blood sweat and tears for years to get to this point in my life.[emoji23] I ain't going back to work for the man anymore. Been there done th.....
And if Leo or Heather mentions a fukkin Fas scheme at any point, so help me god I'll do time.


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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: silverbullet on July 27, 2020, 11:47:41 pm
Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Because my licence it up in mid August. If I don't get passed out I will lose my licence.
There's no reactivation fee.

Do yor NCT then you have a three month window in which to decide what to do.

Youre throwing a spanner in the works now rofl rofl rofl

How have I got 3 mths to decide? when my licence is up mid Aug.
Some on here said you will have to pay 500 if u let it lapse!
I was told by phone that they're waiving the restoration/reactivation penalty as result of the Covid.
I have my NCT from June so have up till September to go through the LRA.
The licence is currently lapsed, but I'm not worried.

Still have the daisies on the car and the roof sign in the hall and getting the PUP.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 27, 2020, 11:49:39 pm
Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .

There was a line added to the criteria since Leo spoke in the last couple of days.

"are genuinely seeking work"

I have applied for about 40 jobs since lockdown through Jobs .ie and indeed .No great demand for Fat old men .

I applied for a couple locally but as of today i'm under the medical care of my GP for at least 6 weeks,so any heavy lifting or physically activity is out...should i be on disability? lol

But as Jonno says,i've invested in the last 20years driving a joe and through no fault of my own my biz has been fuked up but go and shovel shit from tomorrow...or else!!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: silverbullet on July 27, 2020, 11:53:17 pm
Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .

There was a line added to the criteria since Leo spoke in the last couple of days.

"are genuinely seeking work"

I have applied for about 40 jobs since lockdown through Jobs .ie and indeed .No great demand for Fat old men .
Christmas is only around the corner!

Have ya still got Santa's wheelbarrow? 8)
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 27, 2020, 11:57:37 pm
JONNO it says ...Be self-employed and your trading income has ceased due to the COVID-19 public health emergency OR your trading income has collapsed to the extent that you are available to take up other full-time employment. You do not need to de-register as self-employed to get a payment.


Now Me and the Rat dissagree .I interpret these were CONDITIONS to qualify for Coin

 1.Be self-employed and your trading income has ceased due to the COVID-19 public health emergency ....You were observing the Governments best guess of Social distancing and in return they gave you coin .

2. your trading income has collapsed to the extent that you are available to take up other full-time employment.This is an instruction to look for alternative work .I would say if you lapse your taxi licence then you are no longer actively employed so you need to look for other work to qualify .

NB.You do not need to de-register as self-employed to get a payment...Now this is where the waters get muddy .There was no need to de register as self employed to get the Coin but could lapsing your licence mean you are no longer in employment and like all other unemployed people you need to be activly seeking employment .

Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 28, 2020, 12:05:58 am
The criteria has changed,they want more people off the PUP.....they don't care if you get the scurvy.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 12:15:39 am
The criteria has changed,they want more people off the PUP.....they don't care if you get the scurvy.

Hal I posted this earlier .The man who hires casual labour recons they dont want us back until stage 4 .The problem with taxis driving all over the kip is traceability .We could pick up one person with the fever and spread it like fuck before we show any sign of infection .The NTA are happy with just a skeleton taxi service with most trips booked through apps or dispatchers that can be traced .Recon after September you will get a phone call asking when you are considering returning to work possibly asked to prove you are still a legal taxi or asked to prove you are activly seeking toil .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 28, 2020, 12:23:10 am
The criteria has changed,they want more people off the PUP.....they don't care if you get the scurvy.

Hal I posted this earlier .The man who hires casual labour recons they dont want us back until stage 4 .The problem with taxis driving all over the kip is traceability .We could pick up one person with the fever and spread it like fuck before we show any sign of infection .The NTA are happy with just a skeleton taxi service with most trips booked through apps or dispatchers that can be traced .Recon after September you will get a phone call asking when you are considering returning to work possibly asked to prove you are still a legal taxi or asked to prove you are activly seeking toil .
Is there many taxis scooting around the capital these days, relative to what would have been around pre- covid? What percentage would you reckon have ventured back out at this point?

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 28, 2020, 12:30:40 am
Well Wendy from the NTA who didn't really know what she wanted me to know who says that i don't have to create a driver link until i'm ready to go back to work even though my licence will be active from Friday...but as said before,if we all decided to return to the streets as per pre covid....even Roy would struggle to earn coin!!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 12:33:34 am
The criteria has changed,they want more people off the PUP.....they don't care if you get the scurvy.

Hal I posted this earlier .The man who hires casual labour recons they dont want us back until stage 4 .The problem with taxis driving all over the kip is traceability .We could pick up one person with the fever and spread it like fuck before we show any sign of infection .The NTA are happy with just a skeleton taxi service with most trips booked through apps or dispatchers that can be traced .Recon after September you will get a phone call asking when you are considering returning to work possibly asked to prove you are still a legal taxi or asked to prove you are activly seeking toil .
Is there many taxis scooting around the capital these days, relative to what would have been around pre- covid? What percentage would you reckon have ventured back out at this point?

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About 15% of Dublin Drivers are working plus the few who drive in from far far away .Lads with Pensions or carers allowances seem to be working away few lads giving up the 350 to go back .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 28, 2020, 12:36:05 am
The criteria has changed,they want more people off the PUP.....they don't care if you get the scurvy.

Hal I posted this earlier .The man who hires casual labour recons they dont want us back until stage 4 .The problem with taxis driving all over the kip is traceability .We could pick up one person with the fever and spread it like fuck before we show any sign of infection .The NTA are happy with just a skeleton taxi service with most trips booked through apps or dispatchers that can be traced .Recon after September you will get a phone call asking when you are considering returning to work possibly asked to prove you are still a legal taxi or asked to prove you are activly seeking toil .
Is there many taxis scooting around the capital these days, relative to what would have been around pre- covid? What percentage would you reckon have ventured back out at this point?

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About 15% of Dublin Drivers are working plus the few who drive in from far far away .Lads with Pensions or carers allowances seem to be working away few lads giving up the 350 to go back .
I daresay plenty of lads are out there and still drawing down the 350! [emoji857]

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 28, 2020, 12:40:33 am
There's some posters on here with their "if there was work in the bed they'd sleep on the floor" comments....not Dublin drivers mind...but they don't seem to understand that if a full compliment of drivers returned to the streets and signed off the PUP there would be a lot more looking to sign back on.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Golfer14 on July 28, 2020, 12:55:30 am
42 was spot on few weeks backs ,theres no work after midnite.Few bits during the day ,but hardly enought to cover costs for non owner drivers .No booking be it port jobs /folk going to work .I dont think we have see anything yet ,its gona be carnage -making 08/09/10/11/a walk the park .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 28, 2020, 01:04:43 am
42 was spot on few weeks backs ,theres no work after midnite.Few bits during the day ,but hardly enought to cover costs for non owner drivers .No booking be it port jobs /folk going to work .I dont think we have see anything yet ,its gona be carnage -making 08/09/10/11/a walk the park .
We'll have to cut our cloth to suit our measure. Don't be splurging on the marquee items that you can do without. That electric car can wait another while. Go back in time and bring a hang sangwich for your lunch instead of buying a flame grilled whopper. Probably works out at around 10% of the cost. There's many a corner there for the cutting.

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Golfer14 on July 28, 2020, 01:19:18 am
Jonny lad ,half the fleet where getting welfare surport before lockdown ,and have been for many many years .Its an uneven playing fields ,depends on your over heads .The reps at the covid committee meeting last week said as much .JM on here calls about rite most times ,less than minimum wage gig for big outlay .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 28, 2020, 01:25:43 am
Jonny lad ,half the fleet where getting welfare surport before lockdown ,and have been for many many years .Its an uneven playing fields ,depends on your over heads .The reps at the covid committee meeting last week said as much .JM on here calls about rite most times ,less than minimum wage gig for big outlay .
I know. It don't pay to be honest in this place.

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Lizzzy on July 28, 2020, 03:28:34 am
Jonny lad ,half the fleet where getting welfare surport before lockdown ,and have been for many many years .Its an uneven playing fields ,depends on your over heads .The reps at the covid committee meeting last week said as much .JM on here calls about rite most times ,less than minimum wage gig for big outleay .

Who are they?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Lizzzy on July 28, 2020, 03:29:24 am
There's some posters on here with their "if there was work in the bed they'd sleep on the floor" comments....not Dublin drivers mind...but they don't seem to understand that if a full compliment of drivers returned to the streets and signed off the PUP there would be a lot more looking to sign back on.

Who are they?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Belker on July 28, 2020, 03:40:12 am
Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Because my licence it up in mid August. If I don't get passed out I will lose my licence.
There's no reactivation fee.

Do yor NCT then you have a three month window in which to decide what to do.

Youre throwing a spanner in the works now rofl rofl rofl

How have I got 3 mths to decide? when my licence is up mid Aug.
Some on here said you will have to pay 500 if u let it lapse!
I was told by phone that they're waiving the restoration/reactivation penalty as result of the Covid.
I have my NCT from June so have up till September to go through the LRA.
The licence is currently lapsed, but I'm not worried.

Still have the daisies on the car and the roof sign in the hall and getting the PUP.
@ Justin, I reckon Silverbullet has it about nailed correctly.
You can let your Taxi license lapse by up to a year and reactivate it without incurring any late renewal fee.

Quote from NTA website;
In addition to the extension of licences, any SPSV vehicle licence holder who is unable to complete a licence renewal due to the COVID-19 pandemic, will not be subject to any ‘late renewal fee’.

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi/publications-and-regulations/latest-news-and-industry-updates/page/8/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi/publications-and-regulations/latest-news-and-industry-updates/page/8/)
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Lizzzy on July 28, 2020, 03:54:30 am
The criteria has changed,they want more people off the PUP.....they don't care if you get the scurvy.

Hal I posted this earlier .The man who hires casual labour recons they dont want us back until stage 4 .The problem with taxis driving all over the kip is traceability .We could pick up one person with the fever and spread it like fuck before we show any sign of infection .The NTA are happy with just a skeleton taxi service with most trips booked through apps or dispatchers that can be traced .Recon after September you will get a phone call asking when you are considering returning to work possibly asked to prove you are still a legal taxi or asked to prove you are activly seeking toil .
Is there many taxis scooting around the capital these days, relative to what would have been around pre- covid? What percentage would you reckon have ventured back out at this point?

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About 15% of Dublin Drivers are working plus the few who drive in from far far away .Lads with Pensions or carers allowances seem to be working away few lads giving up the 350 to go back .
There are more than that working .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Belker on July 28, 2020, 03:59:19 am
A lot more too down here, I would say the fleet is 60% to 70% back out working.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Lizzzy on July 28, 2020, 04:09:49 am
A lot more too down here, I would say the fleet is 60% to 70% back out working.
Yeah same here,  but you know what they say about them Dubs ?
If there's work in the bed they'd sleep on the floor!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 28, 2020, 08:15:32 am
Have any of you considered .You signed on for the Covid Coin as Taxi drivers who could not Social distance in line with government best guessing . if you now lapse your licence are you in fact actually unemployed as you no longer are a licenced taxi driver .How many of you have full filled the other qualifying criteria of being available for other work ie have any of you registered with any agency or applied for any jobs .Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .
The government narrative seems to be sneaking a bit away, since yesterday, from where it started out regarding conditions for claiming puppy.
From the beginning, I was under the impression that the 350 was to mitigate the damage done to ones trade until such a time as ones trade came back to a reasonable level as to keep one afloat, or until the period of pup ended (now pushed out till 2021).
I don't recall hearing any minister saying months ago that we were expected to be job seeking (notwithstanding the fact that a few hundred thousand others just lost their jobs)- as if we had given up our careers altogether! I've shed blood sweat and tears for years to get to this point in my life.[emoji23] I ain't going back to work for the man anymore. Been there done th.....
And if Leo or Heather mentions a fukkin Fas scheme at any point, so help me god I'll do time.


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So you're another one who believes the €350 is to top up your Taxi work rather than replace it?
Welfare really needs to sort this shit out.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 08:25:41 am
In fairness Roy they the NTA have placed many drivers in a position where they need at LEAST 200/250 a week to keep the wheels turning.

Then the government closed down the country.It wouldn't be unreasonable to expect some assistance.

Like I posted already working drivers are being subsidised indirectly by those of us that are still off.

Google US have said their employees can work at home until April 21.If Europe follows their lead other tech companies will too.Looks a bit gloomy for the remainder of 2020.But I'm optimistic for 2022..
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 28, 2020, 08:30:05 am
In fairness Roy they the NTA have placed many drivers in a position where they need at LEAST 200/250 a week to keep the wheels turning.

Then the government closed down the country.It wouldn't be unreasonable to expect some assistance.

Like I posted already working drivers are being subsidised indirectly by those of us that are still off.

Google US have said their employees can work at home until April 21.If Europe follows their lead other tech companies will too.Looks a bit gloomy for the remainder of 2020.But I'm optimistic for 2022..

The NTA bit isn't that big a portion TBF
Insurance/High Fuel Prices and cars with built in obsolescence  are the high cost factors
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 08:39:26 am
I accept that it's different for every driver Roy.It's about 3k a year to account for keeping the vehicle fresh.Maybe 1500 if you buy a banger or something with high mileage.

Those cost are already locked in since pre covid for many lads.Loans can only be deferred for a limited time.I fear it will get worse before it gets better.Mid September will be the decider for many whether they return to the taxi.Then we will see where we stand workwise.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 28, 2020, 09:32:32 am
Have any of you considered .You signed on for the Covid Coin as Taxi drivers who could not Social distance in line with government best guessing . if you now lapse your licence are you in fact actually unemployed as you no longer are a licenced taxi driver .How many of you have full filled the other qualifying criteria of being available for other work ie have any of you registered with any agency or applied for any jobs .Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .
The government narrative seems to be sneaking a bit away, since yesterday, from where it started out regarding conditions for claiming puppy.
From the beginning, I was under the impression that the 350 was to mitigate the damage done to ones trade until such a time as ones trade came back to a reasonable level as to keep one afloat, or until the period of pup ended (now pushed out till 2021).
I don't recall hearing any minister saying months ago that we were expected to be job seeking (notwithstanding the fact that a few hundred thousand others just lost their jobs)- as if we had given up our careers altogether! I've shed blood sweat and tears for years to get to this point in my life.[emoji23] I ain't going back to work for the man anymore. Been there done th.....
And if Leo or Heather mentions a fukkin Fas scheme at any point, so help me god I'll do time.


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So you're another one who believes the €350 is to top up your Taxi work rather than replace it?
Welfare really needs to sort this shit out.
You've misinterpreted what I was saying. I'm not sure what you've read there to make you form that impression, but no, that's not what I think.

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 10:51:04 am
Head burying or getting pissed off sitting at home syndrome .No tourists ,No Gigs ,No late night venues ,No sporting events .NO FUCKING PASSENGERS means no need for taxis .Your beginning to act like the Clit who couldnt wait to do a loop of Pennys get new Pyjamas and knickers and white socks for the kids .Unless 30% of drivers go bust or give it up the taxi business is no longer viable .No crowds now at Pennys and no crowds on ranks .And dont forget the real ball breaker not Covid 19 but Brexit 2021 ..Just in case you havent noticed it just went Nuclear .Britain imposing quarantine of people traveling back from Spain will fuck up the Spanish tourism trade so you can bet your last Peseta that Spain will veto any trade deal with Britain .Best opportunity for taxi drivers might be in School transport Social distancing cant take place on a bus so there might be work there .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Justin Time on July 28, 2020, 10:55:50 am
Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Because my licence it up in mid August. If I don't get passed out I will lose my licence.
There's no reactivation fee.

Do yor NCT then you have a three month window in which to decide what to do.

Youre throwing a spanner in the works now rofl rofl rofl

How have I got 3 mths to decide? when my licence is up mid Aug.
Some on here said you will have to pay 500 if u let it lapse!
I was told by phone that they're waiving the restoration/reactivation penalty as result of the Covid.
I have my NCT from June so have up till September to go through the LRA.
The licence is currently lapsed, but I'm not worried.

Still have the daisies on the car and the roof sign in the hall and getting the PUP.
@ Justin, I reckon Silverbullet has it about nailed correctly.
You can let your Taxi license lapse by up to a year and reactivate it without incurring any late renewal fee.

Quote from NTA website;
In addition to the extension of licences, any SPSV vehicle licence holder who is unable to complete a licence renewal due to the COVID-19 pandemic, will not be subject to any ‘late renewal fee’.

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi/publications-and-regulations/latest-news-and-industry-updates/page/8/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi/publications-and-regulations/latest-news-and-industry-updates/page/8/)

Thanks,
Couldnt that be open to interpretation ? "any SPSV vehicle licence holder who is unable to complete a licence renewal due to the COVID-19 pandemic,"? Given how its changing by the minute it seems!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Justin Time on July 28, 2020, 11:02:13 am
Just read this article from the BBC

Coronavirus: Taxi drivers 'unprotected' against Covid-19

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53171372 (https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53171372)
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 11:04:07 am
They'll only reintroduce fees when they need drivers again.Take a year off you won't be needed Justin.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 28, 2020, 11:04:42 am
Head burying or getting pissed off sitting at home syndrome .No tourists ,No Gigs ,No late night venues ,No sporting events .NO FUCKING PASSENGERS means no need for taxis .Your beginning to act like the Clit who couldnt wait to do a loop of Pennys get new Pyjamas and knickers and white socks for the kids .Unless 30% of drivers go bust or give it up the taxi business is no longer viable .No crowds now at Pennys and no crowds on ranks .And dont forget the real ball breaker not Covid 19 but Brexit 2021 ..Just in case you havent noticed it just went Nuclear .Britain imposing quarantine of people traveling back from Spain will fuck up the Spanish tourism trade so you can bet your last Peseta that Spain will veto any trade deal with Britain .Best opportunity for taxi drivers might be in School transport Social distancing cant take place on a bus so there might be work there .
Your rant is becoming more bizarre. To be clear, I've been off pup and back working for weeks now. I'm not sure what your point is. Take a chill..

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 11:07:57 am
Head burying or getting pissed off sitting at home syndrome .No tourists ,No Gigs ,No late night venues ,No sporting events .NO FUCKING PASSENGERS means no need for taxis .Your beginning to act like the Clit who couldnt wait to do a loop of Pennys get new Pyjamas and knickers and white socks for the kids .Unless 30% of drivers go bust or give it up the taxi business is no longer viable .No crowds now at Pennys and no crowds on ranks .And dont forget the real ball breaker not Covid 19 but Brexit 2021 ..Just in case you havent noticed it just went Nuclear .Britain imposing quarantine of people traveling back from Spain will fuck up the Spanish tourism trade so you can bet your last Peseta that Spain will veto any trade deal with Britain .Best opportunity for taxi drivers might be in School transport Social distancing cant take place on a bus so there might be work there .
Your rant is becoming more bizarre. To be clear, I've been off pup and back working for weeks now. I'm not sure what your point is. Take a chill..

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Where did you get the idea i give one of my two fucks about you .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Horse on July 28, 2020, 11:09:12 am
He had heard "horror " stories of drivers making screens from cling film  :o
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 28, 2020, 11:10:22 am
@Justin,
The conversation i had yesterday with Oran from the NTA in relation to the information i was given by Wendy last week in which she didn't tell me that "at present" there are no late renewal fees or lapsed licence fees but he says that could change......the only info that Wendy gave me was that if i don't reactivate my licence i would incur the €500 fee.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 11:12:43 am
I thought they brought in graduated fees for plate restoration years ago?.It's not the full 500 straight away even if they were charging.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 28, 2020, 11:15:39 am
Something else Wendy amd Oran didn't tell me!! lol
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 11:22:48 am
I reckon all them guests logged here in are the staff in the call center trying to make sense of the rules..poor fukkers..
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 11:28:43 am
I think Wendy and her mates working from home just get random calls diverted to them Wendy probably normally does bookings for retests knows notghing about taxis so looks at the regs and gives you her interpretation of the rules .Talking to anybody in any government dep is a bit like reading a Film review it depends on what they think it meant .

I reactivated my plate redone the link .I am available to work but I am also not available as Social Distancing means it is unsafe for me and strangers to share a confined space without official guidelines .


If I was you Hal or anybody else I would reactivate the plate ,remember the High Court Judge at dereg said there is no onus on a plate owner to operate that plate but if you no longer have an active licence the Dole might say you have made yourself VOLUNTARILY unemployed .One of the conditions use to be if you quit a job you got no dole for 6 weeks .The Covid Coin rules said you did not have to de register as self employed (why did they say that and are there consequences if you do ) The Goalposts keep moving .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 11:35:49 am
All the fees associated with reactivating your plate are about 200 plus another 300 deposit for insurance.No guarantee I'd pass my NCT without spending either.

Not money I'd be spending of there is not enough work.Smart thing to do is wait it out.

If/when there's another lockdown everyone won't be getting 350 again so more will be out there cutting each other up for a fiver an hour.Fuk that I can make that much from the sofa.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 11:44:08 am
Dont forget Eamo is now the minister for mechanical mayhem ,he will need revenue to pay for bike grants and nice walkways dont be surprised if after stage 4 is lifted then the free relicence fee and other shit that suited the NTA might all be done away with .As I said we need about 30% of taxis out of the fleet for it to be viable .

A new NCT and Suitability and a late fee will knock some of the part timers and double jobbers out .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 28, 2020, 11:57:32 am
Head burying or getting pissed off sitting at home syndrome .No tourists ,No Gigs ,No late night venues ,No sporting events .NO FUCKING PASSENGERS means no need for taxis .Your beginning to act like the Clit who couldnt wait to do a loop of Pennys get new Pyjamas and knickers and white socks for the kids .Unless 30% of drivers go bust or give it up the taxi business is no longer viable .No crowds now at Pennys and no crowds on ranks .And dont forget the real ball breaker not Covid 19 but Brexit 2021 ..Just in case you havent noticed it just went Nuclear .Britain imposing quarantine of people traveling back from Spain will fuck up the Spanish tourism trade so you can bet your last Peseta that Spain will veto any trade deal with Britain .Best opportunity for taxi drivers might be in School transport Social distancing cant take place on a bus so there might be work there .
Your rant is becoming more bizarre. To be clear, I've been off pup and back working for weeks now. I'm not sure what your point is. Take a chill..

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Where did you get the idea i give one of my two fucks about you .
Because you replied to a comment of mine from yesterday complete with some tasty language, thank you very much. Unless it was meant for someone else, which it didn't seem to be. So that's why I thought you gave one of your two fucks.

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 11:58:12 am
Dunno Ermy...right now the NTA are still recruiting.Until they raise the pass mark back to 80% on the geography test there's no point hoping double jobbers and part-timers will go out of business.

Not one of them union/despatch company gimps speaking to the media have mentioned the recruitment drive.

Freenow still have job recruitment adverts up today on the websites.More drivers equals more discounts.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 01:03:58 pm
New law to be debated afterdinner to cover Heathers arse .Law will say you must be activly seeking work to claim Covid Coin .You cannot be seeking work if you are in isolation but the rule will be applied to all claimants .So as I posted yesterday if you lapse your licence are you available to work ?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Tony on July 28, 2020, 01:11:16 pm
@Justin,
The conversation i had yesterday with Oran from the NTA in relation to the information i was given by Wendy last week in which she didn't tell me that "at present" there are no late renewal fees or lapsed licence fees but he says that could change......the only info that Wendy gave me was that if i don't reactivate my licence i would incur the €500 fee.

Just of the phone to jenny, i booked me stupidity for next week and asked her about the late renewal fee, she says as it stands there's no late fee but thats subject to change, take out of that what you like.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 01:15:22 pm
@Justin,
The conversation i had yesterday with Oran from the NTA in relation to the information i was given by Wendy last week in which she didn't tell me that "at present" there are no late renewal fees or lapsed licence fees but he says that could change......the only info that Wendy gave me was that if i don't reactivate my licence i would incur the €500 fee.

Just of the phone to jenny, i booked me stupidity for next week and asked her about the late renewal fee, she says as it stands there's no late fee but thats subject to change, take out of that what you like.

Possible Dear John letters in the post

Dear Driver
            Please confirm you are available to operate as a licenced taxi driver in line with your application for covid coin .This would require that you are in possession or have access to a licenced taxi and insurance .
Regards .
Girl what works from home .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 01:16:02 pm
Laffin I said that in the fifth reply on this thread.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 01:19:30 pm
Laffin I said that in the fifth reply on this thread.

Any SPSV vehicle licence holder who is unable to complete a licence renewal due to the COVID-19 pandemic, will not be subject to any ‘late renewal fee’"""

It's in here somewhere.

Dear driver our testing centers have now reopened in fact they have been open for ^ weeks so the Covid Pandemic no longer impacts on renewals .Its a moveable feast Merc .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 01:23:59 pm
It's a fukkin pandemic all bets are off John.Stop acting the bollox.Some of these new lads don't realise you're shit stirring.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Tony on July 28, 2020, 01:24:31 pm
It's a fukkin pandemic all bets are off John.Stop acting the bollox.Some of these new lads don't realise you're shit stirring.


Or is he?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 01:27:57 pm
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2020/14/ (https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2020/14/)



the bill...https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/bill/2020/14/eng/initiated/b1420d.pdf (https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/bill/2020/14/eng/initiated/b1420d.pdf)
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 01:34:29 pm
Nothing new in that to be concerned about.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 01:43:46 pm
Nothing new in that to be concerned about.

REALLY .....(3) The conditions specified in subsection (1)(b)(i) will not be satisfied
where a claimant—
(a) has lost the employment concerned through his or her own
misconduct or has voluntarily left his or her employment,


As I posted if you VOLUNTARILY   lapse your licence you are no longer employed as a taxi driver .The original condition expressly said there was no need for you to de list as Self Employed .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 01:51:18 pm
Why would you delist as self employed?You only do that if you get a real job.I'm self-employed since 1996 Ffs.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 01:55:33 pm
Why would you delist as self employed?You only do that if you get a real job.I'm self-employed since 1996 Ffs.

Self employed as what ? If you lapse your licence they might say you are no longer in the job you qualified for the coin with .I recon after this bill is passed we will all be asked to reconfirm our qualification for the Coin .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 02:02:21 pm
Just keep confirming it.They can't get their money back of it's spent.I doubt Mountjoy or Cloverhill would have the resources to feed 5000 taxi drivers.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 28, 2020, 02:04:26 pm
Where does it refer to self employment John.....that's specifically for people who walked out of jobs that weren't paying as much as the covid coin....which as we know did happen...i didn't even walk away from my self employment....that was removed unilaterally for the good of the country.....i'm still self employed and ready to work but other business's that supply my business arn't allowed reopen or have restrictions placed on them if they do reopen...not to mention that social distance rules still apply and as has been mentioned once or twice on here...impossible to implement...but some say it's all a loada bollox.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 02:18:31 pm
Where does it refer to self employment John.....that's specifically for people who walked out of jobs that weren't paying as much as the covid coin....which as we know did happen...i didn't even walk away from my self employment....that was removed unilaterally for the good of the country.....i'm still self employed and ready to work but other business's that supply my business arn't allowed reopen or have restrictions placed on them if they do reopen...not to mention that social distance rules still apply and as has been mentioned once or twice on here...impossible to implement...but some say it's all a loada bollox.

 or has voluntarily left his or her employment,.If you no longer have a licenced business as you lapsed it could they say you Voluntarialy left the trade .Nobody instructed us to lapse our licences .It might be semantics but .............................................The conditions you qualified for the payment have changed .You have seen how officialdom has acted from licence renewal to NCTs Suitability Somebody in a box room with a Lenovo might try to make a name for themselves in the Department of Disaster .
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 28, 2020, 03:06:39 pm
There is a definite shift from wanting people to take the payment and  stay at home to wanting people to get off the payment and get back to work, with all that entails.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: john m on July 28, 2020, 03:14:28 pm
Just one example of people who qualified for Covid coin then didnt .Debenhams closed while the staff were getting Covid payments got fucked off when Debenhams went bust and had to claim the lesser dole payment .I wonder are we supposed to inform the Covid Bankers if out T&C change ?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 28, 2020, 03:22:18 pm
There is a definite shift from wanting people to take the payment and  stay at home to wanting people to get off the payment and get back to work, with all that entails.
So if this legislation passes, (presumably it will have to go through both houses--however long that will take), the onus is on recipients to provide proof of job applications etc....

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 03:27:17 pm
Passscal said early on that they won't be supporting business that aren't viable forever.

So if yer called into welfare and you say there's not enough work they'll tell you to apply for a real job.Nothing new there.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 28, 2020, 03:48:53 pm
Passscal said early on that they won't be supporting business that aren't viable forever.

So if yer called into welfare and you say there's not enough work they'll tell you to apply for a real job.Nothing new there.
I dont know what it is about taxi drivers forever running down their own job.this job may not be physically demanding,but it certainly can be mentally demanding.when you have some cubt sitting beside you and you dont know what weapon he is going to pull on you,and you feel tou have to take the two dodgy looking cunts on the corner because you cant afford not to because there is so little work out there,please stop running it down as a nothing job,because its a job that most people would not fancy
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Octavia1 on July 28, 2020, 03:52:14 pm
Passscal said early on that they won't be supporting business that aren't viable forever.

So if yer called into welfare and you say there's not enough work they'll tell you to apply for a real job.Nothing new there.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/)

Most of us are over 50 an personality disordered,  overweight, alcoholics , drug addicts and criminally insane ...
"Job seeking  "means permanent dole
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 03:52:24 pm
What did I say?Its not like a real job.You can come and go if you please.No holiday pay.Or pensions scheme Daly....the only qualifications most of us have is a driving licence.Loadsa people have them


Nobody asked you to drive around drunks and bogeys if you don't want to.Looks like somebody hacked your account Daly.Your posts are different.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 28, 2020, 04:06:32 pm
Passscal said early on that they won't be supporting business that aren't viable forever.

So if yer called into welfare and you say there's not enough work they'll tell you to apply for a real job.Nothing new there.
I dont know what it is about taxi drivers forever running down their own job.this job may not be physically demanding,but it certainly can be mentally demanding.when you have some cubt sitting beside you and you dont know what weapon he is going to pull on you,and you feel tou have to take the two dodgy looking cunts on the corner because you cant afford not to because there is so little work out there,please stop running it down as a nothing job,because its a job that most people would not fancy
Hear hear. You'd think the detractors were only doing the job a wet week. I'm guessing a lot of them have been decades doing it. Maybe that's where the problem lies. By extension, they've also had decades to escape if they thought it was that bad.

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 04:12:43 pm
Anyone who thinks earning buttons for lots of hours makes this a great job is deluding themselves.Taxi driving is easy that's why there's loads of us.

If I had two pensions like Dalyer I'd think it was great too.Get up the yard.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 28, 2020, 04:14:03 pm
Once you get sucked in to this game it's hard to get out.....because working for the man at possibly 50+ years of age after a decade or two working at your own pace it's hard to not do that.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 04:24:27 pm
I'd consider a "real job"to be one with holidays and benefits and defined hours.

Some seem to get offended by that.It's still an occupation but definitely not like a real job.

It's a shame the unions we have are fukking useless.But then they're all ex drivers so we never really had a chance.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Lizzzy on July 28, 2020, 05:31:17 pm
Once you get sucked in to this game it's hard to get out.....because working for the man at possibly 50+ years of age after a decade or two working at your own pace it's hard to not do that.
..and you a tradesman !!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Lizzzy on July 28, 2020, 05:40:50 pm
Anyone who thinks earning buttons for lots of hours makes this a great job is deluding themselves.Taxi driving is easy that's why there's loads of us.

If I had two pensions like Dalyer I'd think it was great too.Get up the yard.

Ken and vd make more than buttons, the work is there if you  want it !
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 06:08:37 pm
I know Lizzy...they gross a lot of money but they don't take home anywhere near that.

Vd hands out more than I earn and Ken just spent probably three or four months wages after deductions on a newer motor.All is not what it seems.But you know that already.

Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 28, 2020, 06:16:54 pm
I'd consider a "real job"to be one with holidays and benefits and defined hours.

Some seem to get offended by that.It's still an occupation but definitely not like a real job.

It's a shame the unions we have are fukking useless.But then they're all ex drivers so we never really had a chance.
MFH we had numerous opportunities to make this a better job,but we blew the lot.we knew what we were signing up to when we camr into the game,but in no way is it an easy job.the mere fact that lads are away from their families for hours on end that alone males it a hard job without anything else.on top of that there is continuous obstacles being put in our way by both the NTA,and the government and what do we do ? Bury our heads in the sand.there is STILL an opportunity to make it a real good job ,but unfortunately nobody seems to give one of the erms two fukks
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 28, 2020, 06:18:26 pm
I know Lizzy...they gross a lot of money but they don't take home anywhere near that.

Vd hands out more than I earn and Ken just spent probably three or four months wages after deductions on a newer motor.All is not what it seems.But you know that already.

The fact he had 18k under the bed to buy the car is impressive, Ken seems to do 300 a day with freenow, that's decent money regardless
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 28, 2020, 06:21:40 pm
Id say Kenny would dispute that figure
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 06:27:51 pm
Ken's wages come at the price of fukking over other drivers via the ambassador and ranking system.He's close to pension age soon working nights so that has a health cost and deserves a premium wage.

His car was fine a few weeks ago and good for another few years.Big difference between gross and net.All everyone talks about is the gross on here.

Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Bob Shillin on July 28, 2020, 06:29:18 pm
I know Lizzy...they gross a lot of money but they don't take home anywhere near that.

Vd hands out more than I earn and Ken just spent probably three or four months wages after deductions on a newer motor.All is not what it seems.But you know that already.

The fact he had 18k under the bed to buy the car is impressive, Ken seems to do 300 a day with freenow, that's decent money regardless
Those crazy statements are becoming more frequesnt. 60 jobs per week (no analysis please), as per his last screen shot, is a long way off €300 per day/night over 5 days, and even further off over 7 days/nights, and that's counting gross not net
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Lizzzy on July 28, 2020, 09:13:54 pm
I know Lizzy...they gross a lot of money but they don't take home anywhere near that.

Vd hands out more than I earn and Ken just spent probably three or four months wages after deductions on a newer motor.All is not what it seems.But you know that already.
Their expenses are higher so is there take home.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 28, 2020, 11:43:35 pm
I think you'll find Kens expenses are much higher than most lads.He has some shite luck. VD is renting so not representative of the whole fleet.How can the average driver compare themselves to lads getting spoon fed by the algorithm.

Definitely not the experience of most drivers posting on here.Does that not sound odd.

Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 28, 2020, 11:52:39 pm
I think you'll find Kens expenses are much higher than most lads.He has some shite luck. VD is renting so not representative of the whole fleet.How can the average driver compare themselves to lads getting spoon fed by the algorithm.

Definitely not the experience of most drivers posting on here.Does that not sound odd.
So what would you say the hard working dub taxi person would expect to gross annually, driving 6 nights a week? We hear wild figures being bandied about. Sounds like the land of milk and honey in the smoke. I have my reservations though. Anyone care to provide a bullshit- free estimate?

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 29, 2020, 12:01:07 am
I dunno John.Why would anyone work six nights a week?Saving for a helicopter?Holiday home?

Every driver has a different experience.I work the days.Make enough, but money is really important unless my account is running empty.As a general rule it's frowned upon to post earnings so most of us don't.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 29, 2020, 12:15:01 am
I dunno John.Why would anyone work six nights a week?Saving for a helicopter?Holiday home?

Every driver has a different experience.I work the days.Make enough, but money is really important unless my account is running empty.As a general rule it's frowned upon to post earnings so most of us don't.
Everyone's circumstances are different, I'm sure you'll appreciate. Some of us have a couple of kids at college with accommodation to be paid for, only the one household income etc. So a helicopter or holiday home would be a distant dream. Anyway, if you're not in that position then well done to you. And some people do seem to like talking about their earnings to all and sundry on this forum. I've seen them. And as for money only being important when the bank account is running dry? Mine is always dry, hence the 6 nights thingy....

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Panel on July 29, 2020, 12:28:21 am
I remember reading a article in one of the taxi rags comparing taxi driving to other professional driving positions.


Driving a taxi isn’t comparable to other driving positions as your self employed when you drive a joer, working for a company like Dublin bus you’ve sick pay, holiday pay if your bus breaks down ya get recovered to the depot and ya don’t have pay to get it fixed.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Lizzzy on July 29, 2020, 02:01:32 am
I think you'll find Kens expenses are much higher than most lads.He has some shite luck. VD is renting so not representative of the whole fleet.How can the average driver compare themselves to lads getting spoon fed by the algorithm.

Definitely not the experience of most drivers posting on here.Does that not sound odd.
So what would you say the hard working dub taxi person would expect to gross annually, driving 6 nights a week? We hear wild figures being bandied about. Sounds like the land of milk and honey in the smoke. I have my reservations though. Anyone care to provide a bullshit- free estimate?

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Well it all depends on the size of the city, but as a general rule of thumb...
Dublin  100k
Cork.     50k
Galway  25k
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Lizzzy on July 29, 2020, 02:04:21 am
I think you'll find Kens expenses are much higher than most lads.He has some shite luck. VD is renting so not representative of the whole fleet.How can the average driver compare themselves to lads getting spoon fed by the algorithm.

Definitely not the experience of most drivers posting on here.Does that not sound odd.

Ah you can't blame them for needing it more, we all start off with a level playing field.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Panel on July 29, 2020, 03:11:25 am
I think you'll find Kens expenses are much higher than most lads.He has some shite luck. VD is renting so not representative of the whole fleet.How can the average driver compare themselves to lads getting spoon fed by the algorithm.

Definitely not the experience of most drivers posting on here.Does that not sound odd.
So what would you say the hard working dub taxi person would expect to gross annually, driving 6 nights a week? We hear wild figures being bandied about. Sounds like the land of milk and honey in the smoke. I have my reservations though. Anyone care to provide a bullshit- free estimate?

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Well it all depends on the size of the city, but as a general rule of thumb...
Dublin  100k
Cork.     50k
Galway  25k

Are you for real?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 29, 2020, 05:45:15 am
I think you'll find Kens expenses are much higher than most lads.He has some shite luck. VD is renting so not representative of the whole fleet.How can the average driver compare themselves to lads getting spoon fed by the algorithm.

Definitely not the experience of most drivers posting on here.Does that not sound odd.
So what would you say the hard working dub taxi person would expect to gross annually, driving 6 nights a week? We hear wild figures being bandied about. Sounds like the land of milk and honey in the smoke. I have my reservations though. Anyone care to provide a bullshit- free estimate?

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Well it all depends on the size of the city, but as a general rule of thumb...
Dublin  100k
Cork.     50k
Galway  25k

Are you for real?

i know! only €2000 a week in Dublin, bleedin' amateur we make twice that!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Belker on July 29, 2020, 06:47:37 am
Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Because my licence it up in mid August. If I don't get passed out I will lose my licence.
There's no reactivation fee.

Do yor NCT then you have a three month window in which to decide what to do.

Youre throwing a spanner in the works now rofl rofl rofl

How have I got 3 mths to decide? when my licence is up mid Aug.
Some on here said you will have to pay 500 if u let it lapse!
I was told by phone that they're waiving the restoration/reactivation penalty as result of the Covid.
I have my NCT from June so have up till September to go through the LRA.
The licence is currently lapsed, but I'm not worried.

Still have the daisies on the car and the roof sign in the hall and getting the PUP.
@ Justin, I reckon Silverbullet has it about nailed correctly.
You can let your Taxi license lapse by up to a year and reactivate it without incurring any late renewal fee.

Quote from NTA website;
In addition to the extension of licences, any SPSV vehicle licence holder who is unable to complete a licence renewal due to the COVID-19 pandemic, will not be subject to any ‘late renewal fee’.

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi/publications-and-regulations/latest-news-and-industry-updates/page/8/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi/publications-and-regulations/latest-news-and-industry-updates/page/8/)

Thanks,
Couldnt that be open to interpretation ? "any SPSV vehicle licence holder who is unable to complete a licence renewal due to the COVID-19 pandemic,"? Given how its changing by the minute it seems!
No ! That is not open to interpretation, that is a direct quote from the NTA website.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Belker on July 29, 2020, 06:59:18 am
Dont forget Eamo is now the minister for mechanical mayhem ,he will need revenue to pay for bike grants and nice walkways dont be surprised if after stage 4 is lifted then the free relicence fee and other shit that suited the NTA might all be done away with .As I said we need about 30% of taxis out of the fleet for it to be viable .

A new NCT and Suitability and a late fee will knock some of the part timers and double jobbers out .
The Late renewal fee has been waived by the NTA, C'mon stay Up John M !
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Belker on July 29, 2020, 07:13:36 am
@Justin,
The conversation i had yesterday with Oran from the NTA in relation to the information i was given by Wendy last week in which she didn't tell me that "at present" there are no late renewal fees or lapsed licence fees but he says that could change......the only info that Wendy gave me was that if i don't reactivate my licence i would incur the €500 fee.

Just of the phone to jenny, i booked me stupidity for next week and asked her about the late renewal fee, she says as it stands there's no late fee but thats subject to change, take out of that what you like.
If'n its a Suitability test that you mean then I reckon your Pox renault will pass,
but if'n it's a Stupidity test that is required then I would guess at an automatic Fail !!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: markmiwurdz on July 29, 2020, 08:38:42 am


Well it all depends on the size of the city, but as a general rule of thumb...
Dublin  100k
Cork.     50k
Galway  25k
[/quote]

Of all the stupid posts I've seen on a taxi forum this is right up there on so many different levels. ::fds ::fds


Is there another job out there who would shaft themselves up the ass with ridiculous figures like that posted on a public forum for all to see.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Tony on July 29, 2020, 08:54:22 am
@Justin,
The conversation i had yesterday with Oran from the NTA in relation to the information i was given by Wendy last week in which she didn't tell me that "at present" there are no late renewal fees or lapsed licence fees but he says that could change......the only info that Wendy gave me was that if i don't reactivate my licence i would incur the €500 fee.

Just of the phone to jenny, i booked me stupidity for next week and asked her about the late renewal fee, she says as it stands there's no late fee but thats subject to change, take out of that what you like.
If'n its a Suitability test that you mean then I reckon your Pox renault will pass,
but if'n it's a Stupidity test that is required then I would guess at an automatic Fail !!

Keep up ken ken ffs that renno is long gone
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 29, 2020, 10:38:17 am
Interestingly I rang the NTA only yesterday asking about a suitability test.she said it would take about a week to get one.she asked had I a screen.I said no,but I asked her why ?  she said if you have a screen you MUST have a letter from AXA
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Tony on July 29, 2020, 10:39:32 am
Interestingly I rang the NTA only yesterday asking about a suitability test.she said it would take about a week to get one.she asked had I a screen.I said no,but I asked her why ?  she said if you have a screen you MUST have a letter from AXA

What if your not with Axa?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 29, 2020, 10:52:13 am
Well I dont know in that case,I would imagine the same applys to whoever your with,but she specifically mentioned AXA
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: stonethecrows on July 29, 2020, 01:14:17 pm
Well I dont know in that case,I would imagine the same applys to whoever your with,but she specifically mentioned AXA
or Take it out
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 29, 2020, 01:17:18 pm
Well I dont know in that case,I would imagine the same applys to whoever your with,but she specifically mentioned AXA
or Take it out

Better to be safe than sorry....or be a guinea pig.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Lizzzy on July 29, 2020, 04:07:33 pm


Well it all depends on the size of the city, but as a general rule of thumb...
Dublin  100k
Cork.     50k
Galway  25k

Of all the stupid posts I've seen on a taxi forum this is right up there on so many different levels. ::fds ::fds


Is there another job out there who would shaft themselves up the ass with ridiculous figures like that posted on a public forum for all to see.
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Laughin, where do you think you are, in communist east Germany. The revenue could tell you what you made by your odometer reading and bank statements.
Play the ball and not the man!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 29, 2020, 04:17:40 pm
Funny how Galway has the lowest figure.....posted by a Galway girl. rofl
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: the driver on July 29, 2020, 06:42:52 pm
Interestingly I rang the NTA only yesterday asking about a suitability test.she said it would take about a week to get one.she asked had I a screen.I said no,but I asked her why ?  she said if you have a screen you MUST have a letter from AXA

What if your not with Axa?
According to the NTA website if you are insured with AXA you do not need a letter. AXA have apparently written to the NTA saying that they are covering Taxis with screens.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 29, 2020, 07:00:07 pm
That is definitely not what they told me.she was quite clear if you had a screen and  were insured with AXA,then you needed to have a letter.id check that out if I had a screen,and was going up for the test
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: watty on July 29, 2020, 07:22:56 pm
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/axa-insurance-confirms-that-dividing-screens-do-not-impact-the-cover-provided-under-axas-spsv-insurance/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/axa-insurance-confirms-that-dividing-screens-do-not-impact-the-cover-provided-under-axas-spsv-insurance/)

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AXA Insurance confirms that dividing screens do not impact the cover provided under AXA’s SPSV insurance

17/06/20

AXA’s blanket acceptance of dividing screens in SPSVs insured by it removes the requirement to present an individual letter from AXA to pass the SPSV suitability test.  All other conditions remain.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 29, 2020, 07:48:53 pm
Watty,she was obviously wrong,but im only telling you what she told me
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Phsychidelic on July 30, 2020, 02:19:32 am
Was going to advise but then you revealed your a keshie so........ask mein bollox.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 30, 2020, 06:18:04 am
Was going to advise but then you revealed your a keshie so........ask mein bollox.
me a kshie ?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 30, 2020, 08:20:47 am
Was going to advise but then you revealed your a keshie so........ask mein bollox.
me a kshie ?
Believe it or not it's not all about you, you'll notice the thread is called "advice please" and was started by a keshie.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 30, 2020, 09:29:39 am
Was going to advise but then you revealed your a keshie so........ask mein bollox.
me a kshie ?
Believe it or not it's not all about you, you'll notice the thread is called "advice please" and was started by a keshie.
Need more advice.....

Not being an expert bean counter, I'm trying to get into the bones of this measure included in the stimulus package....

Income tax loss relief for self-employed

This is a new once-off income tax relief measure which will benefit self-employed individuals who were profitable in 2019 but, as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic, are loss making in 2020. 

The measure will give individuals carrying on a trade or profession as sole traders or members of partnerships a cash-flow boost from the early utilisation of up to €25,000 worth of 2020 losses (and certain unused capital allowances) off-set against 2019 profits.

Wondering how they calculate your 2020 losses to minimise your 2019 tax liability when you haven't done returns for this year yet? Some whizz kid out there knows I'm sure.

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 30, 2020, 10:05:05 am
Was going to advise but then you revealed your a keshie so........ask mein bollox.
me a kshie ?
Believe it or not it's not all about you, you'll notice the thread is called "advice please" and was started by a keshie.
Need more advice.....

Not being an expert bean counter, I'm trying to get into the bones of this measure included in the stimulus package....

Income tax loss relief for self-employed

This is a new once-off income tax relief measure which will benefit self-employed individuals who were profitable in 2019 but, as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic, are loss making in 2020.

The measure will give individuals carrying on a trade or profession as sole traders or members of partnerships a cash-flow boost from the early utilisation of up to €25,000 worth of 2020 losses (and certain unused capital allowances) off-set against 2019 profits.

Wondering how they calculate your 2020 losses to minimise your 2019 tax liability when you haven't done returns for this year yet? Some whizz kid out there knows I'm sure.

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jonno are you saying im a keshie,because if you are,then your quite wrong.I dont even know how to get into the kesh,nor have I ever been in the kesh ( well maybe long kesh) but rhats different
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 30, 2020, 10:39:48 am
Was going to advise but then you revealed your a keshie so........ask mein bollox.
me a kshie ?
Believe it or not it's not all about you, you'll notice the thread is called "advice please" and was started by a keshie.
Need more advice.....

Not being an expert bean counter, I'm trying to get into the bones of this measure included in the stimulus package....

Income tax loss relief for self-employed

This is a new once-off income tax relief measure which will benefit self-employed individuals who were profitable in 2019 but, as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic, are loss making in 2020.

The measure will give individuals carrying on a trade or profession as sole traders or members of partnerships a cash-flow boost from the early utilisation of up to €25,000 worth of 2020 losses (and certain unused capital allowances) off-set against 2019 profits.

Wondering how they calculate your 2020 losses to minimise your 2019 tax liability when you haven't done returns for this year yet? Some whizz kid out there knows I'm sure.

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jonno are you saying im a keshie,because if you are,then your quite wrong.I dont even know how to get into the kesh,nor have I ever been in the kesh ( well maybe long kesh) but rhats different
Being honest I don't even know what a keshie is. I was just throwing it out there to hopefully gain some information in what seems to be something valuable and should be of interest to all self employed folks. I hadn't heard mention of it with the list of measures announced last week. I was searching for any update on the 1000 enterprise support grant.

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 30, 2020, 11:00:59 am
A keshie?......Dublin airport's finest upstanding taxi drivers......well Bubba and Marto!!
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 30, 2020, 11:01:47 am
Funny tou should mention that,I have just this minute emailed Sean Haughey askibg him if he can provide some more info on it.I also made what I believe is a valid point.what is somebody supposed to do if they dont have a grand to spend in advance of getting the grant ?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 30, 2020, 11:04:40 am
Daly they probably just assume you have a credit card or an overdraft facility.If you pay the card off within two months there's no interest.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 30, 2020, 11:17:02 am
Funny tou should mention that,I have just this minute emailed Sean Haughey askibg him if he can provide some more info on it.I also made what I believe is a valid point.what is somebody supposed to do if they dont have a grand to spend in advance of getting the grant ?
You're right. I made that point a few days ago. If you do manage to scrape together a grand (or 1250 if you want to get the max 1000 back) how long to wait for reimbursement? I can't afford to wait 2 months to replace the scant few bob I have. Don't know why they're not informing people of this stuff. The covid coin doesn't allow for spare cash to be saved, and any previous savings I had were eaten up in the 14 weeks I was scratching me hole. So if there's a way of reducing last year's tax bill, I would like to know about it (preferably to a zero value, cos I've currently nothing in the pot for paschal!)

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 30, 2020, 11:21:22 am
Just make sure you get vat receipts for the stuff you HAVE to buy, fuel (fill her up) Tyres if you need them, get a service, buy a screen/masks/sanitiser car wash and whatever else, add them all up and get 80% back in Grant relief, if you don't need to spend €1,250...  don't
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 30, 2020, 11:24:35 am
Just make sure you get vat receipts for the stuff you HAVE to buy, fuel (fill her up) Tyres if you need them, get a service, buy a screen/masks/sanitiser car wash and whatever else, add them all up and get 80% back in Grant relief, if you don't need to spend €1,250...  don't
I've already got screen and new card reader. Gonna upgrade phone. That eats most of it up. Probably stock up on masks etc to finish

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Punter on July 30, 2020, 11:29:45 am
Maybe consider laptop,phone or dash cam as expense !
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: dalymount on July 30, 2020, 11:36:11 am
Just make sure you get vat receipts for the stuff you HAVE to buy, fuel (fill her up) Tyres if you need them, get a service, buy a screen/masks/sanitiser car wash and whatever else, add them all up and get 80% back in Grant relief, if you don't need to spend €1,250...  don't
will ordinary receipts not do ? Whats the difference between a VAT receipt ,and an ordinary receipt ?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Tony on July 30, 2020, 11:38:21 am
Just make sure you get vat receipts for the stuff you HAVE to buy, fuel (fill her up) Tyres if you need them, get a service, buy a screen/masks/sanitiser car wash and whatever else, add them all up and get 80% back in Grant relief, if you don't need to spend €1,250...  don't
will ordinary receipts not do ? Whats the difference between a VAT receipt ,and an ordinary receipt ?

One shows the vat rate charged the other dosnt
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 30, 2020, 11:40:38 am
Just make sure you get vat receipts for the stuff you HAVE to buy, fuel (fill her up) Tyres if you need them, get a service, buy a screen/masks/sanitiser car wash and whatever else, add them all up and get 80% back in Grant relief, if you don't need to spend €1,250...  don't
will ordinary receipts not do ? Whats the difference between a VAT receipt ,and an ordinary receipt ?
That's something I'd be curious to know. I have a printout of the debit card receipt I used to pay for the screen along with the engineer report. I have photographed both stapled together. I've been on to the installer twice to email a vat receipt to me, but he's in no hurry to do so. Wonder why? [emoji848]

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 30, 2020, 11:42:46 am
Also it says "normal running costs don't qualify", so I don't know about fuel/service

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Shallowhal on July 30, 2020, 11:43:37 am
@Jonno.......engineers report?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 30, 2020, 11:46:11 am
Yes.

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 30, 2020, 11:46:38 am
Most till receipts show VAT, be careful with credit/debit card receipts though often they don't show either the item or the VAT (sum up for example)

If not provided ask for one companies are obliged to provide them
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 30, 2020, 11:52:54 am
If you're thinking of returning to work wait a bit longer... at least 'till 8/9 August.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 30, 2020, 11:58:10 am
If you're thinking of returning to work wait a bit longer... at least 'till 8/9 August.
Signing off the coin this Saturday. By doing that it gives me an extra 350 because Friday counts as a new week. Staying on the pup for much longer ropes you into this new shite of "must be seeking employment". Which I'm not. No point in pushing it too far

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 30, 2020, 12:07:05 pm
If you're thinking of returning to work wait a bit longer... at least 'till 8/9 August.
Signing off the coin this Saturday. By doing that it gives me an extra 350 because Friday counts as a new week. Staying on the pup for much longer ropes you into this new shite of "must be seeking employment". Which I'm not. No point in pushing it too far

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 30, 2020, 12:13:37 pm
If you're thinking of returning to work wait a bit longer... at least 'till 8/9 August.
Signing off the coin this Saturday. By doing that it gives me an extra 350 because Friday counts as a new week. Staying on the pup for much longer ropes you into this new shite of "must be seeking employment". Which I'm not. No point in pushing it too far

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There's a job at 4:30am Saturday morning: Portobello to the Airport, 22 euro to get you started ... PM me if you want it
If you add a ton to that I'll take it in a heartbeat. I don't live in Dublin. Cheers anyway

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 30, 2020, 12:19:46 pm
Don't say you weren't warned, Jonno. I'm not one to go on about knowing stuff nobody else knows or knowing men who hire casual labour or suchlike but that's advice I'm inclined to respect.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Tony on July 30, 2020, 12:20:14 pm
If you're thinking of returning to work wait a bit longer... at least 'till 8/9 August.
Signing off the coin this Saturday. By doing that it gives me an extra 350 because Friday counts as a new week. Staying on the pup for much longer ropes you into this new shite of "must be seeking employment". Which I'm not. No point in pushing it too far

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There's a job at 4:30am Saturday morning: Portobello to the Airport, 22 euro to get you started ... PM me if you want it
If you add a ton to that I'll take it in a heartbeat. I don't live in Dublin. Cheers anyway

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Another culchie  lol
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 30, 2020, 12:24:31 pm
Don't say you weren't warned, Jonno. I'm not one to go on about knowing stuff nobody else knows or knowing men who hire casual labour or suchlike but that's advice I'm inclined to respect.

Did the Erm tell you you're all getting a bonus to go back on the 10th?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 30, 2020, 12:26:31 pm
No. If the erm's advice was worthy of respect the Shiners would have nominated Leo for Taoiseach and the man who hires casual labour wouldn't be paying 78,326 security guards to man non-existent riot barriers up above in Dublin.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 30, 2020, 12:26:51 pm
If you're thinking of returning to work wait a bit longer... at least 'till 8/9 August.
Signing off the coin this Saturday. By doing that it gives me an extra 350 because Friday counts as a new week. Staying on the pup for much longer ropes you into this new shite of "must be seeking employment". Which I'm not. No point in pushing it too far

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If you add a ton to that I'll take it in a heartbeat. I don't live in Dublin. Cheers anyway

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Another culchie  lol

Should've known when he said he didn't know what a keshie was
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 30, 2020, 12:28:39 pm
I wonder will COVID payment recipients get a bonus weeks at christmas like the other spongers?
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 30, 2020, 12:28:49 pm
If you're thinking of returning to work wait a bit longer... at least 'till 8/9 August.
Signing off the coin this Saturday. By doing that it gives me an extra 350 because Friday counts as a new week. Staying on the pup for much longer ropes you into this new shite of "must be seeking employment". Which I'm not. No point in pushing it too far

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If you add a ton to that I'll take it in a heartbeat. I don't live in Dublin. Cheers anyway

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Another culchie  lol
I live in the sticks alright. My father is a norhhside dub and his side are dubs since the year dot. This culchie shite is all in the mind.

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Jonno on July 30, 2020, 01:04:13 pm
Warned about what?

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Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 30, 2020, 01:33:32 pm
Returning to work before the grand might be easier to get.
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 30, 2020, 02:52:35 pm
Currently there is no grant and no way to get it, the "apply now" page doesn't exist, one would assume that when the grant becomes available it will be available to anyone who returned to work on the promise that a grant would issue, and on whatever basis it is granted
Title: Re: Advice Please
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 30, 2020, 03:01:00 pm
Depends whether they focus on getting men off PUP... the grant as outlined in this thread - for vouched somewhat ambiguously defined costs - will probably be available to all. However, one would imagine a return to work grant would be restricted to those who return to work.  It'd be unusual - but not impossible, I guess - to allow retrospective applications in that case.